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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #5852
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,566 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Jesus that's lovely. Use the murder of a women to score cheap points on a discussion forum.

    Oh clutch the pearls precious

    Absurd strawman argument to imply someone was blocked in the crosswalk, therefore was in mortal peril of being run over by a car. “Stay classy” lols

    The only way she was in danger of being run over is if another redneck Alt right nazi was on the road. Heather doesn’t mind my reminding you, I promise.


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    #5853
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    notobtuse wrote: »
    You're neutral on vandalism? I wonder how neutral you'd be if they destroyed your car, home, or business just because it was in the vicinity.

    I'd be pretty unhappy. But it wouldn't cost me any money, it would cost my insurance money.
    Causing someone to get run over by a car because Antifa blocked their ability to cross the street is part of your acceptance to protests?

    See my last post, this is actual violence.
    I'm saying Antifa has been involved in criminal activity at all the ones I've read about. Seems quite simple to understand.

    I asked were they violent. Not criminal. How about you answer that.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #5854
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    Overheal wrote: »
    Oh clutch the pearls precious

    Absurd strawman argument to imply someone was blocked in the crosswalk, therefore was in mortal peril of being run over by a car. “Stay classy” lols

    Sure when you're willing and happy to support a group that happily beats the ****e out of people I guess doing what you've just done is no biggie.

    But sure look, it's not a "whose got the bigger body count" game of bloodshed with you. At least that's something.


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    #5855
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,566 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Sure when you're willing and happy to support a group that happily beats the ****e out of people I guess doing what you've just done is no biggie.

    But sure look, it's not a "whose got the bigger body count" game of bloodshed with you. At least that's something.

    When in the heavens did I ever support a group? What have I done that is supposedly a “biggie?”


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    #5856
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    Overheal wrote: »
    When in the heavens did I ever support a group? What have I done that is supposedly a “biggie?”

    Oh I apologise. "Violent political movement".


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    #5857
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Overheal wrote: »
    Who was run over by a car? Has Heather Heyer died again?

    Wow so edgy, how old are ye out of interest?
    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Oh I apologise. "Violent political movement".

    Apologizing and then lying is a strange tactic.


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    #5858
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Every time someone farts the alt right grift machine fires up blaming antifa and minimising far right crimes. Seems to work on some people but most can see what is happening.


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    #5859
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    Every time someone farts the alt right grift machine fires up blaming antifa and minimising far right crimes. Seems to work on some people but most can see what is happening.
    Wrong as usual. Anyone involved in these type of crimes needs to be arrested... Left, Right or Center.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #5860
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    20Cent wrote: »
    Every time someone farts the alt right grift machine fires up blaming antifa and minimising far right crimes.

    Yup. Gotta distract from the Spencer leak. Ye olde Donald Gump tactic.
    notobtuse wrote: »
    Wrong as usual. Anyone involved in these type of crimes needs to be arrested... Left, Right or Center.

    Self defence and defence of others is an arrestable offence now?


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    #5861
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    PostWoke wrote: »
    Wow so edgy, how old are ye out of interest?



    Apologizing and then lying is a strange tactic.

    Sorry, but I would be taking any morality lessons of the lad who told me to "call him up" when the anti-fa body count matches that of the far-right.

    Violence takes more forms then simply murder btw.


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    #5862
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    You're neutral on vandalism? I wonder how neutral you'd be if they destroyed your car, home, or business just because it was in the vicinity.

    Causing someone to get run over by a car because Antifa blocked their ability to cross the street is part of your acceptance to protests?

    I'm saying Antifa has been involved in criminal activity at all the ones I've read about. Seems quite simple to understand.

    This was not Antifa.
    This was a protest against far right politician Maxime Bernier specifically.
    She was trying to enter a PR talk for a right wing politician and it was being protested.
    The elderly can be bigots too. Don't be ageist.

    We've all long agreed criminal is criminal...unless it's Donald Trump, then it's what evs..


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    #5863
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    PostWoke wrote: »
    Self defence and defence of others is an arrestable offence now?
    Who said that? Certainly not me.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #5864
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Sorry, but I would be taking any morality lessons of the lad who told me to "call him up" when the anti-fa body count matches that of the far-right.

    I can practically see you pretending to tear up.


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    #5865
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,566 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Oh I apologise. "Violent political movement".

    When did I say “violent political movement?”


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    #5866
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Brian? wrote: »
    I'd be pretty unhappy. But it wouldn't cost me any money, it would cost my insurance money.
    I don't believe you. If all your family mementos that are irreplaceable were to be lost in a fire caused by a violent protest, I'd think you'd be more than just pretty unhappy... Or if you only get one-half of what you still owe on that car from the insurance company.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #5867
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I don't believe you. If all your family mementos that are irreplaceable were to be lost in a fire caused by a violent protest, I'd think you'd be more than just pretty unhappy... Or if you only get one-half of what you still owe on that car from the insurance company.

    Or your premium increases as a result of claiming on it.


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    #5868
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Brian? wrote: »
    I'd be pretty unhappy. But it wouldn't cost me any money, it would cost my insurance money.

    That has to be one of the most dumbest posts I've ever read on boards.ie.


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    #5869
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I don't believe you. If all your family mementos that are irreplaceable were to be lost in a fire caused by a violent protest, I'd think you'd be more than just pretty unhappy... Or if you only get one-half of what you still owe on that car from the insurance company.

    People hurt: actual violence I hate.

    Property damage: property damage. I wouldn’t go around damaging property, but it’s not as bad as actually damaging people.

    Are you going to answer my question about Antifa violence at Trump events? Is it happening or not?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #5870
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    That has to be one of the most dumbest posts I've ever read on boards.ie.

    You mustn’t have read most of this thread so.

    I think calling Antifa fascist anti semites is much more dumb.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #5871
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Brian? wrote: »
    People hurt: actual violence I hate.

    Property damage: property damage. I wouldn’t go around damaging property, but it’s not as bad as actually damaging people.

    Are you going to answer my question about Antifa violence at Trump events? Is it happening or not?
    Definition of violence
    The use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy.

    Therefore the answer is YES... Antifa is participating in violence at Trump events!

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #5872
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I don't believe you. If all your family mementos that are irreplaceable were to be lost in a fire caused by a violent protest, I'd think you'd be more than just pretty unhappy... Or if you only get one-half of what you still owe on that car from the insurance company.

    I love this post so much. You make it personal about how I’d feel, I reply and you don’t believe me. Why ask in the first place?

    I also enjoy this imaginary life you’ve created for me where I owe money on a car. It’s a wonderfully American sentiment. The notion I might own a car outright never entered your head. It’s great. I own my car, most people in Europe do.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #5873
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Brian? wrote: »
    I love this post so much. You make it personal about how I’d feel, I reply and you don’t believe me. Why ask in the first place?

    I also enjoy this imaginary life you’ve created for me where I owe money on a car. It’s a wonderfully American sentiment. The notion I might own a car outright never entered your head. It’s great. I own my car, most people in Europe do.

    Oh a champagne socialist, typical ;)


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    #5874
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,566 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Definition of violence
    The use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy.

    Therefore the answer is YES... Antifa is participating in violence at Trump events!

    Antifa groups, like the groups of Trump supporters that participate in violence at Trump events.


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    #5875
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Oh a champagne socialist, typical ;)

    Yep. I graduated from amphetamine communist in the late 90s.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #5876
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Definition of violence
    The use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy.

    Therefore the answer is YES... Antifa is participating in violence at Trump events!


    Of course, they are. They instigate every single situation and escalate it to violence/anti social behaviour and then proceed to play the victim and blame it on the oppressive, fascistic white male. Absolute pillow biters.


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    #5877
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Overheal wrote: »
    Antifa groups, like the groups of Trump supporters that participate in violence at Trump events.

    Do you support Antifa and their repetitive display of violence and assault?


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    #5878
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    Of course, they are. They instigate every single situation and escalate it to violence/anti social behaviour and then proceed to play the victim and blame it on the oppressive, fascistic white male. Absolute pillow biters.
    Homophobia

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    #5879
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Brian? wrote: »
    Are you going to answer my question about Antifa violence at Trump events? Is it happening or not?

    Yes, lots of examples have been posted already. Here's more:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpfrGE_UIfs


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5viO3shoJyw


    Cue the usual nonsense about how anyone can wear black and Andy Ngo's a grifter.


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    #5880
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,566 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Yes, lots of examples have been posted already. Here's more:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpfrGE_UIfs


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5viO3shoJyw


    Cue the usual nonsense about how anyone can wear black and Andy Ngo's a grifter.
    Is Andy the primary source for these videos again


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    #5881
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,566 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ‘The Deep State thwarts another fascist terror plot:’

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/fbi-avowed-white-supremacist-plotted-to-bomb-a-synagogue-in-colorado/

    Avowed white supremacist planned to set off bombs at Colorado synagogue. Also planned to poison the well..

    “ Holzer allegedly said on Oct. 13 that he planned to put arsenic in the synagogue’s water pipes on Oct. 31, just as he had paid a cook to do the year before. Oct. 31, 2018 was four days after a white supremacist, and avowed anti-Semite killed 11 Jewish worshippers in a mass shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh.”


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