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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #692
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    It doesn't matter anyway, one way or the other, if you want to call him something else do.

    The fact he is a journalist or not doesn't matter. Nobody, journalist or non journalist should be attacked for their political views. If its ok to do to right wing people then it will be ok to do when they do it to left wing people.


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    #693
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »

    The fact he is a journalist or not doesn't matter. Nobody, journalist or non journalist should be attacked for their political views.

    I agree no one should be attacked, but there should be extra weight on offences against journalists. They are reporting on events, not involved in them.

    Sue LLoyd Roberts had no qualifications in journalism, and went to the worst places in the world to report on them. Today she would be called a troll and a provocateur? What do you think blaaz and 20c?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQFo48kE3SM


    I think she is a journalist, and a hero.


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    #694
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    20Cent wrote: »
    Advocating for fascism

    Who's advocating fascism?


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    #695
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    Who's advocating fascism?

    Nazis.


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    #696
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    markodaly wrote: »
    Harming journalists is fine of course...
    20Cent wrote: »
    What planet are you on?
    No one said anything remotely like that.
    But work away.

    *Clears throat. "My what a forgetful poster you are."
    20Cent wrote: »
    Ngo was there to dox people which he has done in the past. The people who attacked him may well have saved some lives.


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    #697
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fup7Fcs7UM


    Self confessed leftie Joe Rogan on the happenings in Portland.


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    #698
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    *Clears throat. "My what a forgetful poster you are."

    Anyone got a clue what the point of this post is?


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    #699
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »

    Self confessed leftie Joe Rogan on the happenings in Portland.

    And Eric Weinstein, kind of a Hitchens without the bite and charm.


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    #700
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    20Cent wrote: »
    Anyone got a clue what the point of this post is?

    Is Sue-Lloyd Roberts a journalist?


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    #701
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Kimsang wrote: »
    Is Sue-Lloyd Roberts a journalist?


    Not familiar with her.
    Seems like everyone is a journalist anyway. We all are.
    I'm a photographer as well since I use Instagram.


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    #702
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    20Cent wrote: »
    Not familiar with her.
    Seems like everyone is a journalist anyway. We all are.
    I'm a photographer as well since I use Instagram.

    Maybe it's worth familiarizing yourself seeing as how relevant it is to this story.
    Sue Lloyd-Roberts, who has died aged 64 after suffering from myeloid leukaemia, was one of television’s most outstanding reporters. For ITN and the BBC, fearless and resourceful, she travelled widely, reporting from war zones and exposing human rights abuses in some of the world’s most tyrannous and secretive regimes. Often she did so alone, filming her own reports and going to elaborate and daring lengths to get her stories.
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/oct/14/sue-lloyd-roberts

    I, like many others, believe her to be a hero and a journalist. Do you agree?


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    #703
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote:
    You can't say anything these days PC gone mad.

    Says the guy who refuses to explain what he means by Nazis and fascism.
    klaaaz wrote:
    Sure does, feminism is the equality of the sexes not women being subservient to men as per the ideology of the Proud Boys and their supporters here. Right wingers always have a problem with women having rights like control over their own bodies, that's one reason they get upset.

    Again, you are misrepresenting. In what way is promoting traditional gender roles treating women as subservient?

    We get it, you love the idea of abortion. Lots of right wingers also voted for repealing the eighth. It might sound mad to you, but a lot of left leaning people also have misgivings about abortion on demand too.

    It isn't a one size fits all mentality that you and supporters of the horrific antifa seem to think it is.

    What is a fascist to you?


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    #704
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Kimsang wrote: »
    Maybe it's worth familiarizing yourself seeing as how relevant it is to this story.


    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/oct/14/sue-lloyd-roberts

    I, like many others, believe her to be a hero and a journalist. Do you agree?

    I'm a fan of lots of journalists and many are very brave.
    Not a fan of Lord Haw Haw though.
    You think he was a journalist?


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    #705
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    markodaly wrote: »
    Harming journalists is fine of course...
    20Cent wrote: »
    What planet are you on?
    No one said anything remotely like that.
    But work away.

    *Clears throat. "My what a forgetful poster you are."
    20Cent wrote: »
    Ngo was there to dox people which he has done in the past. The people who attacked him may well have saved some lives.
    20Cent wrote: »
    Anyone got a clue what the point of this post is?

    Hmmm perhaps I'll have to simplify my point somewhat;

    *Caveman grunt.

    "You 20 Cent."
    "Me Snake."
    "You think punching journalist very very good."
    "Me think punching journalist very very bad."

    Have I dumbed down my point enough?


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    #706
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Say a journalist is doing a story about football hooligans.
    He gets to know some Millwall fans.
    They tell him they are attacking Man U fans who are drinking in a pub.
    He goes along with them and films it.

    He then writes stories about how terrible the Man U fans are and posts lots of photos of them knowing they will become targets.


    Is this person really a journalist or a member of the hooligan gang?


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    #707
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    20Cent wrote: »
    I'm a fan of lots of journalists and many are very brave.
    Not a fan of Lord Haw Haw though.
    You think he was a journalist?

    You call yourself a feminist? and you don't seem to care who Sue Lloyd-Roberts is? Seriously?

    the-war-on-women-9781471153921_lg.jpg

    Is it so difficult to call her a journalist and a hero? Why is that?


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    #708
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote:
    Say a journalist is doing a story about football hooligans. He gets to know some Millwall fans. They tell him they are attacking Man U fans who are drinking in a pub. He goes along with them and films it.

    Say you are a person who gets to know antifa. They call people Nazis because they don't agree with their mobs mentality.

    They arrange to attack and assault anyone who disagrees with them. Sometimes extremely violently. You defend and support them.

    By defending and supporting people who use violence to suppress the opposition, are you a fascist?


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    #709
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Kimsang wrote: »
    You call yourself a feminist? and you don't seem to care who Sue Lloyd-Roberts is? Seriously

    <SNIP>

    Have you had a stroke or something?
    Get to a doctor quickly.
    A qualified one btw.


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    #710
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    20Cent wrote: »
    Have you had a stroke or something?
    Get to a doctor quickly.
    A qualified one btw.

    The problem seems your inability to focus for 5 seconds. Lord haw haw as you refereced was broadcasting nazi material, nothing to do with Andy Ngo.

    Sue Lloyd Roberts on the other hand was exactly in the same circumstance as Ngo, she worked often alone, going to the most controversial places on earth to report on atrocities, especially to women, and you can't call her a hero and a journalist. That is pathetic.


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    #711
    Venom
    Registered Users Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Say you are a person who gets to know antifa. They call people Nazis because they don't agree with their mobs mentality.

    They arrange to attack and assault anyone who disagrees with them. Sometimes extremely violently. You defend and support them.

    By defending and supporting people who use violence to suppress the opposition, are you a fascist?


    Don't forget crying about how mean and unfair it is to be named and shamed publicly for supporting fascist groups such as antifa, when said journo's spout one op-ed piece after another that support fascist groups like antifa!


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    #712
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Kimsang wrote: »
    The problem seems your inability to focus for 5 seconds. Lord haw haw as you refereced was broadcasting nazi material, nothing to do with Andy Ngo.

    Sue Lloyd Roberts on the other hand was exactly in the same circumstance as Ngo, she worked often alone, going to the most controversial places on earth to report on atrocities, especially to women, and you can't call her a hero and a journalist. That is pathetic.

    In my opinion Ngo is more like Lord Haw Haw.


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    #713
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Venom wrote: »
    Don't forget crying about how mean and unfair it is to be named and shamed publicly for supporting fascist groups such as antifa, when said journo's spout one op-ed piece after another that support fascist groups like antifa!

    He associated people with nothing to do with antifa, they then got death threats.
    Normal journalists don't do things like that.


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    #714
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    20Cent wrote: »
    In my opinion Ngo is more like Lord Haw Haw.

    That’s insane. Insane.

    No indication at all he’s a fascist. Or a sympathiser.


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    #715
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    That’s insane. Insane.

    No indication at all he’s a fascist. Or a sympathiser.

    He shows up at their events, writes positive articles about them, writes articles supporting their beliefs, doxes their opposition, etc etc

    What more does he have to do.........


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    #716
    Venom
    Registered Users Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    20Cent wrote: »
    He associated people with nothing to do with antifa, they then got death threats.
    Normal journalists don't do things like that.


    Only back in January of this year, a group of Covington Catholic High School kids were publicly named and shamed as being racists by most media and news sources on the planet, yet were 100% innocent of any wrong doing. Celebrities, some that are even house hold names, called for these kids lives to be ruined, for acts of violence to be committed against them and for them to be doxxed.



    So let's not pretend these so-called normal journalists don't do shady shít.


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    #717
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Venom wrote: »
    Only back in January of this year, a group of Covington Catholic High School kids were publicly named and shamed as being racists by most media and news sources on the planet, yet were 100% innocent of any wrong doing. Celebrities, some that are even house hold names, called for these kids lives to be ruined, for acts of violence to be committed against them and for them to be doxxed.



    So let's not pretend these so-called normal journalists don't do shady shít.

    So we are in agreement he does shady sh1t.


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    #718
    Venom
    Registered Users Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    20Cent wrote: »
    He shows up at their events, writes positive articles about them, writes articles supporting their beliefs, doxes their opposition, etc etc

    What more does he have to do.........


    He follows a story and where it leads. Every time antifa show up, either violence erupts, innocent people are attacked, property gets destroyed or all of the above. Of course he is going to follow such a group around, just like all the other journo's that tend to follow them when its 100% guaranteed that shít will start.


    Lyra McKee was doing the exact same thing when she was murdered. Was she out of order for following the story?


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    #719
    SexBobomb
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    20 I really have to give you credit you are brilliant at dodging questions.


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    #720
    Venom
    Registered Users Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    20Cent wrote: »
    So we are in agreement he does shady sh1t.


    With such an ability for mental gymnastics, you would clean up the gold at the Olympics!


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    #721
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    20 I really have to give you credit you are brilliant at dodging questions.

    No one answers my questions.

    Anyway whataboutery is boring.


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