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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #722
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Venom wrote: »
    With such an ability for mental gymnastics, you would clean up the gold at the Olympics!

    But other people do bad things isn't really an excuse for someone doing bad things. Kids in the playground know that.


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    #723
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    20Cent wrote: »
    No one answers my questions.

    Anyway whataboutery is boring.

    Says the person who compared Ngo to Lord haw haw

    Ngo was attacked by Antifa because they hated him so much. Why did they hate him so much?

    I venture to guess because he previously documented their atrocities. What would you say is the reason?


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    #724
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Kimsang wrote: »
    Says the person who compared Ngo to Lord haw haw

    Ngo was attacked by Antifa because they hated him so much. Why did they hate him so much?

    I venture to guess because he previously documented their atrocities. What would you say is the reason?

    Because he doxed totally innocent people who got death threats.
    Because he constantly writes in support of far right views.
    Because he took part in an attack on a bar.


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    #725
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    20Cent wrote: »
    Because he doxed totally innocent people who got death threats.
    Because he constantly writes in support of far right views.
    Because he took part in an attack on a bar.

    You can say exactly the same thing about Sue Lloyd-Roberts. Instead of doxing though it's called reporting.

    And the part about the bar has been shown no proof of this. Or have you found some new evidence?


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    #726
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Kimsang wrote: »
    You can say exactly the same thing about Sue Lloyd-Roberts. Instead of doxing though it's called reporting.

    And the part about the bar has been shown no proof of this. Or have you found some new evidence?

    These were people with nothing to do with antifa and who are now getting threats from organised nazi groups. Comparing that to a brilliant journalist is shameful and horrible.

    There's loads of video of it look up the Cider Riot.

    If someone knows an attack is about to take place surely they should alert the authorities instead of getting their camera out and going along for the views.


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    #727
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Venom wrote: »
    With such an ability for mental gymnastics, you would clean up the gold at the Olympics!

    To be fair....
    Venom wrote: »
    Don't forget crying about how mean and unfair it is to be named and shamed publicly for supporting fascist groups such as antifa, when said journo's spout one op-ed piece after another that support fascist groups like antifa!

    Condemning violence is one thing, calling people fascist for being violent towards fascists is a bit of an oxymoron.


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    #728
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    To be fair....
    Condemning violence is one thing, calling people fascist for being violent towards fascists is a bit of an oxymoron.

    People in power (Antifa supported by Mayor Wheeler), forcibly suppressing the opposition, strict enforcing of their ideology, and appealing to authority when things go wrong, could very well be confused with fascists.


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    #729
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    ...calling people fascist for being violent towards fascists is a bit of an oxymoron.

    They're not just violent to fascists though, far bloody from it.


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    #730
    Standman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    The problem is, nobody seems to knows what the term "facist" means anymore. Least of all the antifacists.


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    #731
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    This spoon, Shane Harris, compares the beating of Ngo to the Jussie Smollet case:


    https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1146112550674796544


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    #732
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Kimsang wrote: »
    People in power (Antifa supported by Mayor Wheeler), forcibly suppressing the opposition, strict enforcing of their ideology, and appealing to authority when things go wrong, could very well be confused with fascists.

    No, not really. Fascist doesn't mean violent.
    Standman wrote: »
    The problem is, nobody seems to knows what the term "facist" means anymore. Least of all the antifacists.

    That's a cop out fascist apologists use to water down the acts of fascists.
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    This spoon, Shane Harris, compares the beating of Ngo to the Jussie Smollet case:


    https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1146112550674796544

    Did Ngo pay people to beat him for fame and notoriety?


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    #733
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Did Ngo pay people to beat him for fame and notoriety?

    No, which is why he's a spoon for making the comparison.

    Although there are some arseholes suggesting he did alright.


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    #734
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    This spoon, Shane Harris, compares the beating of Ngo to the Jussie Smollet case:


    https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1146112550674796544

    He's clearly playing on the fact that one of Ngo's favourite topics to write about is that racist attacks are fake.

    Could also be possible his own side did it or it was all planned.


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    #735
    Il Fascista
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭Il Fascista


    Matt Barrett wrote: »



    That's a cop out fascist apologists use to water down the acts of fascists.



    The irony here being that you're crying about a term being misused by the right, while you and many like you have been doing the same for the last few years.


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    #736
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    20Cent wrote: »
    Could also be possible his own side did it or it was all planned.

    No, it's not possible and pretty sickening of you to suggest it, but of course, not surprising.


    https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying/status/1145856893010599936


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    #737
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Il Fascista wrote: »
    The irony here being that you're crying about a term being misused by the right, while you and many like you have been doing the same for the last few years.

    Not at all. Saying the term has lost meaning gives an out to anyone labelled a fascist. Example; "Don't vote for John Smith because he's a fascist". 'Ah, sure that means nothing anymore'.

    Funny how words like socialist and communist are only ever used on actual socialists or communists, but fascist is a word that's lost all meaning :rolleyes:


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    #738
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    20Cent wrote: »
    He shows up at their events, writes positive articles about them, writes articles supporting their beliefs, doxes their opposition, etc etc

    What more does he have to do.........

    Can you link to these positive articles. I’ve never heard of the guy until this week but no search has shown anything like that.

    Also im still unsure about the doxxing charge. I’d ban all masks myself of course.

    If he knew that “doxxing” would cause someone to get harmed then maybe it’s a bad idea but otherwise naming masked thugs is in general ok.


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    #739
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    20Cent wrote: »
    He's clearly playing on the fact that one of Ngo's favourite topics to write about is that racist attacks are fake.

    Could also be possible his own side did it or it was all planned.

    Any link to an article where ngo says that?


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    #740
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote:
    In my opinion Ngo is more like Lord Haw Haw.

    Great. Thanks for that.
    20Cent wrote:
    No one answers my questions.

    I will. Ask me.

    20Cent wrote:
    Anyway whataboutery is boring.

    Indeed it is.

    Anyway. Direct question for you. No whataboutery.

    What is the definition, to you, of a fascist?


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    #741
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    No, it's not possible and pretty sickening of you to suggest it, but of course, not surprising.

    He's proven himself to be an unethical "journalist" already.
    Wouldn't surprise me if it was a setup.


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    #742
    SexBobomb
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭SexBobomb


    20Cent wrote: »
    He's proven himself to be an unethical "journalist" already.
    Wouldn't surprise me if it was a setup.

    Really, he was diagnosed with a brain haemorrhage, what kind of mad man would do that to themselves ?


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    #743
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    Really, he was diagnosed with a brain haemorrhage, what kind of mad man would do that to themselves ?

    He was on TV hours later that story is bull.


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    #744
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    Really, he was diagnosed with a brain haemorrhage,

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    #745
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,642 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Condemning violence is one thing, calling people fascist for being violent towards fascists is a bit of an oxymoron.
    It has been pointed out a few times though that 'fascist' often takes on a fairly broad meaning, or else, that Antifa are not always all that careful about ensuring that their target is 'legitimate' (even in their eyes).


    Almost a year ago in the same city of Portland, a guy called Paul Welch, who would have many of the same sympathies as Antifa, even if he isn't a member, came along with his American flag to oppose a Proud Boys rally.


    But Antifa members grabbed him, tore his 'fascist symbol' away from him, and beat him up, ending with a club to the back of the head.


    https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2018/08/he_brought_an_american_flag_to.html


    I'm somebody who thinks groups like Proud Boys are a bunch of morons, and Patriot Prayer are just the same. I can absolutely understand the mentality that 'we can't just let them march unopposed, we have to do something.'



    But just because I think those groups are morons, doesn't mean I have to think that anything or everything done to oppose them is justified by the fact that they are morons. Lets not kid ourselves here. Just like everybody else, Antifa can get things wrong, can go too far, can attract some unpleasant characters. I don't see anything controversial about saying that.


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    #746
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    [Deleted User] wrote: »

    What is the definition, to you, of a fascist?

    The posters refusal to answer this simple question is quite telling but not at all surprising.


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    #747
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Any link to an article where ngo says that?

    I have been reading the Ngo and others on Quillette for some time now.

    All of the accusations leveled against him(Ngo) are unquestionably false.


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    #748
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Boggles wrote: »
    <SNIP>

    People with brain hemmorages aren't released from hospital within hours and then do a tour of TV shows. Don't need to be a doctor to know that.


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    #749
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Violent Antifa Thug Punches Innocent Protester at Portland Rally (2019)

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    #750
    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    20Cent wrote: »
    Violent Antifa Thug Punches Innocent Protester at Portland Rally (2019)

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    Didn't you already post this?

    Wasnt funny the first time


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    #751
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Nice chap

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