Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

Brian?

nullzero wrote: »

It states in the opening paragraph that eye damage is not probable but possible.

You are stating that it isn't possible, so the article demonstrably disagrees with what you are saying.

I'll accept you have experience in this field (taking your word for it), but it seems that in cannot be stated definitively that eye damage is not possible.

It’s possible to kill someone with a spoon.

The chances of doing damage with those lasers is pretty small, ok it’s not impossible, but if it was easy there’d be a generation of blind ravers.

ExMachina1000

Overheal wrote: »

At any rate feds are now equipped with safety eyewear worn for operating around lasers.

Good to hear. Safety is paramount

Overheal

nullzero wrote: »

Do they always wear them?

I worked with people who wouldn't wear their body armour because it was "too bulky".

Appears to be in response to the use of protester lasers.

Feds were also out there the other night using their own leafblowers :pac:

Eric Cartman

Brian? wrote: »

“High output laser” isn’t a technical term. It’s meaningless scaremongering

sorry if you want to get technical its a 532 nm green laser.

from wikipedia

Illumination by handheld green lasers is particularly serious, as the wavelength (532 nm) is near peak sensitivity of the dark-adapted eye and may appear to be 35 times brighter than a red laser of identical power output.

so its 35 times brighter than a red laser

The United States Coast Guard requires their aircrews to return to base if a green laser is pointed at them, and have their eyes examined for eye damage. People have been given up to five years in jail for aiming a green laser at an aircraft.[9]

harmless fun....

Overheal

"so its 35 times brighter than a red laser"

Appears*.

Unless actually comparing measures of Candela, the SI unit of luminous intensity, which are there figures comparing the laser types?

ExMachina1000

Are Antifa linked to the newly formed
NFAC?

The NFAC ( Not F***ing Around Coalition) are a black militant group who took to the streets of Louisville on Saturday.

Carrying automatic weapons around 2500 masked members dressed in military fatigues marched and chanted.

The leader "Grandmaster Jay" said " We are all ex military and are expert shooters"

"We dont want to negotiate, we don't want to sing songs,we dont bring signs to a gun fight. We are an eye for an eye organisation "

They want a piece of land carved out for black people. They consider every descendant of a black slave to be a political prisoner of the United states.

Eric Cartman

Overheal wrote: »

"so its 35 times brighter than a red laser"

Appears*.

Unless actually comparing measures of Candela, the SI unit of luminous intensity, which are there figures comparing the laser types?

are you intentionally being obtuse and denying the dangers of aiming a green laser at somebodys eyes in order to make these protestors look anything less than thugs.

Overheal

Eric Cartman wrote: »

are you intentionally being obtuse and denying the dangers of aiming a green laser at somebodys eyes in order to make these protestors look anything less than thugs.

No I’m informing your argument by distinguishing between appearances and the scientific and engineering measure of how bright something is.

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

sorry if you want to get technical its a 532 nm green laser.

from wikipedia

so its 35 times brighter than a red laser


harmless fun....

Relatively harmless. Class 3b laser. Stare straight into it a close range for a while and it'll do damage.

If it's shined in your eyes you'll blink or look away pretty quickly. No harm done.

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

sorry if you want to get technical its a 532 nm green laser.

from wikipedia

so its 35 times brighter than a red laser


harmless fun....

Relatively harmless. Class 3b laser. Stare straight into it a close range for a while and it'll do damage.

If it's shined in your eyes you'll blink or look away pretty quickly. No harm done.

Biker79

Tony EH wrote: »

Whatever label you want to try and put on it, the result is still the same.

There is no "free" market.

Nothing is 100 % free. There is no such thing as empty space.

Manage and manipulate - under the accepted sense of the words:

To manage is not to manipulate although it can be part of it.

To manipulate is not to manage although it can be part of it.

Here we are again, painfully pointing out reality to juvenile idealists who prefer to live in fantasy land.

Eric Cartman

Brian? wrote: »

Relatively harmless. Class 3b laser. Stare straight into it a close range for a while and it'll do damage.

If it's shined in your eyes you'll blink or look away pretty quickly. No harm done.

class 3B isn't fine, not that you can tell what they're using from that video.


but we're getting off the point here ?
do you think the use of green lasers by protestors is justified or defensible in any way ?
if its harmless why bother ?

Sweetemotion

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Are Antifa linked to the newly formed
NFAC?

The NFAC ( Not F***ing Around Coalition) are a black militant group who took to the streets of Louisville on Saturday.

Carrying automatic weapons around 2500 masked members dressed in military fatigues marched and chanted.

The leader "Grandmaster Jay" said " We are all ex military and are expert shooters"

"We dont want to negotiate, we don't want to sing songs,we dont bring signs to a gun fight. We are an eye for an eye organisation "

They want a piece of land carved out for black people. They consider every descendant of a black slave to be a political prisoner of the United states.

I seen a video of grandmaster Jay saying the boogaloo boys reached out to them. Apparently they can't join NFAC but is open to them helping their cause.

Here it is.
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1286063369217171457

ExMachina1000

Sweetemotion wrote: »

I seen a video of grandmaster Jay saying the boogaloo boys reached out to them. Apparently they can't join NFAC but is open to them helping their cause.

200 of them took a trip to stone mountain park in Georgia at the beginning of the month looking to pick a fight.

Stone mountain is associated with the resurgence of the kkk in the 1920s. But there was nobody there to fight with or shoot. They were 100 years too late.

ExMachina1000

Here they are in today's world news section of the indo

Sweetemotion

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

200 of them took a trip to stone mountain park in Georgia at the beginning of the month looking to pick a fight.

Stone mountain is associated with the resurgence of the kkk in the 1920s. But there was nobody there to fight with or shoot. They were 100 years too late.

They were marching in Louisville yesterday, one of them accidentally discharged their weapons and injured three people.

Danzy

Sweetemotion wrote: »

I seen a video of grandmaster Jay saying the boogaloo boys reached out to them. Apparently they can't join NFAC but is open to them helping their cause.

Here it is.
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1286063369217171457

Tariq Nasheed is as dangerous a lunatic as one can find.

ExMachina1000

Hopefully they injured some of their own. There were 2500 of them marching. All carrying weapons. Many carrying high powered automatic rifles.

Grandmaster Jay needs to be picked up before he starts something that doesn't end well for his posse

Sweetemotion

Danzy wrote: »

Tariq Nasheed is as dangerous a lunatic as one can find.

I have never heard of him.

Sweetemotion

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Hopefully they injured some of their own. T bff ere were 2500 of them marching. All carrying weapons. Many carrying high powered automatic rifles.

Grandmaster Jay needs to be picked up before he starts something that doesn't end well for his posse

It was fellow members injured, a lot of people saying they aren't ex military at all. Pictures of their guns jammed, not in great shape and not even able to march in unison.

ExMachina1000

Sweetemotion wrote: »

It was fellow members injured, a lot of people saying they aren't ex military at all. Pictures of their guns jammed, not in great shape and not even able to march in unison.

Would make sense. First step government should make is to identify individuals and cut any government assistance or welfare that they might be receiving. Check gun licences and raid individuals homes. Find excuses to remove their children from them. Basically push them over the edge or mentally break them.

Domestic terrorism charges would be effective

Sweetemotion

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Would make sense. First step government should make is to identify individuals and cut any government assistance or welfare that they might be receiving. Check gun licences and raid individuals homes. Find excuses to remove their children from them. Basically push them over the edge or mentally break them.

Domestic terrorism charges would be effective

Can't see that happening.


America is fecked, Trump gets reelected more riots Biden gets elected more riots. I can see a race war in the future.

Danzy

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Can't see that happening.


America is fecked, Trump gets reelected more riots Biden gets elected more riots. I can see a race war in the future.

Most of the violence is from a clique of middle class radical left activists, nearly all white.

Prominent NAACP leaders and even the Guardian Paper have condemned the little lords and ladies of Antifa for hijacking the protests to their own ends.

Whst we may see though is a return to groups like the SLA, Red Army Faction type attacks by radical activists.

ExMachina1000

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Can't see that happening.


America is fecked, Trump gets reelected more riots Biden gets elected more riots. I can see a race war in the future.

Cant see Trump being reelected. Biden will capitulate to ridiculous and stupid demands. Nobody will benefit long term.

The country is too divided. The media has to be one of the main contributors to the division. Whether it is fox or CNN they only show one version of events.

housetypeb

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Would make sense. First step government should make is to identify individuals and cut any government assistance or welfare that they might be receiving. Check gun licences and raid individuals homes. Find excuses to remove their children from them. Basically push them over the edge or mentally break them.

Domestic terrorism charges would be effective

Wouldn't that just be domestic terrorism from the government side then?

ExMachina1000

housetypeb wrote: »

Wouldn't that just be domestic terrorism from the government side then?

No.

Government runs the country and is responsible for the security of its citizens. Roaming militia don't

They want war then give it to them. Although nothing has actually happened yet. Marching around with guns is ok by American law.

If it escalates beyond that it should be put down quickly and permanently.

Sweetemotion

Danzy wrote: »

Most of the violence is from a clique of middle class radical left activists, nearly all white.

Prominent NAACP leaders and even the Guardian Paper have condemned the little lords and ladies of Antifa for hijacking the protests to their own ends.

Whst we may see though is a return to groups like the SLA, Red Army Faction type attacks by radical activists.

Have BLM said anything about Antifa?


They have completely hijacked their protests. Also read yesterday BLM have raised over $1 billion and not one black community cleaned or one black students college tuition payed for.

ExMachina1000

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Have BLM said anything about Antifa?


They have completely hijacked their protests. Also read yesterday BLM have raised over $1 billion and not one black community cleaned or one black students college tuition payed for.

They burnt their own communities

Mr. Karate

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Are Antifa linked to the newly formed
NFAC?

The NFAC ( Not F***ing Around Coalition) are a black militant group who took to the streets of Louisville on Saturday.

Carrying automatic weapons around 2500 masked members dressed in military fatigues marched and chanted.

The leader "Grandmaster Jay" said " We are all ex military and are expert shooters"

Such experts that they shot each other.



It all fun and games claiming you're going to be a revolutionary. Until you turn off Call of Duty and enter the real world.

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

class 3B isn't fine, not that you can tell what they're using from that video.


but we're getting off the point here ?
do you think the use of green lasers by protestors is justified or defensible in any way ?
if its harmless why bother ?

I can tell they’re using class 3b lasers because I know they are using class 3b lasers from the type of light I am seeing. 3b isn’t harmless, but it’s not that harmful.

I think using them is a bit silly and definitely counter productive to their cause. The initial post I was responding to said they should be shot for using lasers. That’s what I really disagree with, hyperbole and scaremongering.