Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

Danzy

MrFresh wrote: »

Nice to see all the old reliables out defending racism and trying to make a blatantly racist statement into a commentary on how bad the left is.

The Left threw in the towel twenty+ years ago.

JohnMc1

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Whereas the rigged 'free' market....?

Capitalism has done more to raise people out of poverty than Socialism ever had.

MrFresh

Eric Cartman wrote: »

sure unless you sell your 8 year old daughter to a 30 year old syrian migrant who's 16 on his asylum form, buy a house in donnybrook and make it a refugee centre, let the travellers steal all the copper in the house, pledge sworn allegiance to only vote for women forever and knock the jesus picture out of the frame with the little red light and put in a picture of AOC then youre a racist nowadays. Bonus points if you go absolutely retarded mental about anything donny t does beyond breathing.

Its like a constant penance, say a decade of pro marxist statements and condemn white men for everything or you get labelled the R word.

Nah, just don't treat people differently because of their race, ethnicity or nationality. Fairly simple. I understand it's important to you to try and make the word racist seem meaningless these days but the core meaning still stands, no matter how ridiculous you try and make it seem.

Chris_Heilong

I think some on here need to stop reading the dailybeast and the Guardian as those things will rot your brain as is evident when people try to create weak arguments to justify violence against fellow human beings.

Midlife

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

You will first have to define what you mean by inequality.

I'm sure you have a problem with Gini scores but the UN and CIA agree that regard that when it comes to scoring inequality, the us is more in line with South America or Africa than most of the first world.

Anyway, suffice to say we mean a country with access to significant wealth where too many people are struggling financially and others are super rich. This has caused the many to turn against traditional politics as they feel they are not being served.Additionally this has changed over time, where many have less in terms of economic freedom thann their parents and so are particularly discontented.

Sweetemotion

MrFresh wrote: »

Nah, just don't treat people differently because of their race, ethnicity or nationality. Fairly simple. I understand it's important to you to try and make the word racist seem meaningless these days but the core meaning still stands, no matter how ridiculous you try and make it seem.

Says the guy who has 4 posts in this thread, all of which are just to insult and call other posters names for simply holding a different from him. To virtue signal how great and tolerant he is. :rolleyes:

Tasfasdf

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Says the guy who has 4 posts in this thread, all of which are just to insult and call other posters names for simply holding a different from him. To virtue signal how great and tolerant he is. :rolleyes:

Yeah its ironic considering he said in one of his posts how only the alt right do that. Guess he as putting himself in that group.

20Cent

Calling a racist a racist is worse than being a racist according to the alt right.

_blaaz

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Capitalism has done more to raise people out of poverty than Socialism ever had.

Indeed it has and will do so in future,just not in the west


If it cant gaurantee each generation,will do better than previous...its kinda pointless to expect people to buy into it,as its near certain people here will be poorer than our parents

20Cent

The crowd at trumps rally is chanting "send her back" in reference to a congresswoman.

What does it take to convince trumplicans of his racism or even worse do they care?

Billy Mays

The deplorables covering themselves in glory once again

Pa ElGrande

20Cent wrote: »

The crowd at trumps rally is chanting "send her back" in reference to a congresswoman.

What does it take to convince trumplicans of his racism or even worse do they care?

The democrats and their supporters got trolled in a major way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rJ7SLiLBgs

Democrat ‘Doomsday Scenario’ as Campaign Funds Evaporate

Stop moaning ffs

20Cent wrote: »

The crowd at trumps rally is chanting "send her back" in reference to a congresswoman.

What does it take to convince trumplicans of his racism or even worse do they care?

‘‪Racism is so American, that when you protest it, people think you are protesting America.’

Ain’t that the truth.

SexBobomb

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

‘‪Racism is so American, that when you protest it, people think you are protesting America.’

Im with you there big aul load of racists, like that wan that called black people super predators.

20Cent

The republicans blocked funding to help the 9/11 first responders. It's clear who in unAmerican.

Danzy

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

The democrats and their supporters got trolled in a major way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rJ7SLiLBgs

Democrat ‘Doomsday Scenario’ as Campaign Funds Evaporate

Wall St. will bankroll the Democratic nominee as long as they agree to relax the position on illegal immigrants.

20Cent

SexBobomb wrote: »

Im with you there big aul load of racists, like that wan that called black people super predators.

She didn't but truth does not matter in the new trump era.

20Cent

Word in yer ear.
Tim Pool is a fool.

Billy Mays

20Cent wrote: »

The republicans blocked funding to help the 9/11 first responders. It's clear who in unAmerican.

Funding to help 9/11 responders is socialism m8

20Cent

No difference between this and the Charlottesville crowd chanting the Jews will not replace us..

SexBobomb

20Cent wrote: »

No difference between this and the Charlottesville crowd chanting the Jews will not replace us..

Link doesn't work

20Cent

SexBobomb wrote: »

Link doesn't work

It's the send her back chant from the rally last night.

20Cent

20Cent wrote: »

It's the send her back chant from the rally last night.

"Pigs in blankets, fry em like bacon"
"No border, no wall, no USA at all"

Everyone has some silly chants.

20Cent

Deleted User wrote: »

"Pigs in blankets, fry em like bacon"
"No border, no wall, no USA at all"

Everyone has some silly chants.

False equivalence


A street protest.
A rally for the president.
The exact same.

Brian?

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

The democrats and their supporters got trolled in a major way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rJ7SLiLBgs

Democrat ‘Doomsday Scenario’ as Campaign Funds Evaporate

The ultimate proof, a guy in a beanie hat makes a YouTube video in his Ma’s basement.

There is absolutely no doubt that Trump strategically used the tweets to get the Dems behind the 4 congresswomen and use it to pain the whole Democratic Party as socialists. It’s so bloody obvious, why wouldn’t he.

To describe this as some sort of next level political game playing is hilarious. Roger Stone has been doing it for 30 years.

Midlife

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

The democrats and their supporters got trolled in a major way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rJ7SLiLBgs

Democrat ‘Doomsday Scenario’ as Campaign Funds Evaporate

I'm not particularly bothered watching all of that but it seems to be indicating that Trump was being strategic with his overtly racist comments and was baiting the democrats into a response. Get them to circle around the far left and hope to damage the oppostion in the eyes of the white middle american voters who will make the difference. At the same time he distracts from other things going on.

Am i missing anything or do you really need a 20 minute youtube from some guy to explain that?

I have one question openly asked in this thread which hasn't yet been answered by anyone. Still waiting for an intelligent response that isn't ....but the left!!!

I'm now going to ask a second. Does anyone think that the tactic of intentionally stoking racial divisions in the US will cause more problems than it is worth? I mean nationally the political process is a mess. The states are probably doing Ok but themselves but nationally, nothign is going on. Is polarising things further between white trump voters and the rest not going to be more demaging long term than whatever Trump can achieve with probably neither house nor congress? Can no-one genuinly see what attempting to bring about cross party unity could achieve in place of just driving a larger wedge in between two halves of society.

The Late Late Show

Midlife wrote: »

I'm not particularly bothered watching all of that but it seems to be indicating that Trump was being strategic with his overtly racist comments and was baiting the democrats into a response. Get them to circle around the far left and hope to damage the oppostion in the eyes of the white middle american voters who will make the difference. At the same time he distracts from other things going on.

Am i missing anything or do you really need a 20 minute youtube from some guy to explain that?

I have one question openly asked in this thread which hasn't yet been answered by anyone. Still waiting for an intelligent response that isn't ....but the left!!!

I'm now going to ask a second. Does anyone think that the tactic of intentionally stoking racial divisions in the US will cause more problems than it is worth? I mean nationally the political process is a mess. The states are probably doing Ok but themselves but nationally, nothign is going on. Is polarising things further between white trump voters and the rest not going to be more demaging long term than whatever Trump can achieve with probably neither house nor congress? Can no-one genuinly see what attempting to bring about cross party unity could achieve in place of just driving a larger wedge in between two halves of society.

'I played this city like a harp from hell'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

markodaly

Brian? wrote: »

To describe this as some sort of next level political game playing is hilarious. Roger Stone has been doing it for 30 years.

Yeap, but this could work in Trump's favor.

SexBobomb

Deleted User wrote: »

"Pigs in blankets, fry em like bacon"
"No border, no wall, no USA at all"

Everyone has some silly chants.

20Cent wrote: »

False equivalence


A street protest.
A rally for the president.
The exact same.

False equivalence

Theoretically deporting someone (even though everyone knows they cant, they are American).
Killing Police Officers and Destabilising the country.

The exact same.

notobtuse

Midlife wrote: »

I have one question openly asked in this thread which hasn't yet been answered by anyone. Still waiting for an intelligent response that isn't ....but the left!!!

I'm now going to ask a second. Does anyone think that the tactic of intentionally stoking racial divisions in the US will cause more problems than it is worth? I mean nationally the political process is a mess. The states are probably doing Ok but themselves but nationally, nothign is going on. Is polarising things further between white trump voters and the rest not going to be more demaging long term than whatever Trump can achieve with probably neither house nor congress? Can no-one genuinly see what attempting to bring about cross party unity could achieve in place of just driving a larger wedge in between two halves of society.

You won’t get the kind of reply you want because your premise is wrong. Granted the tweet in question was stupid, jackassery even, but it wasn’t racist. It is not racist to tell people who have contempt for the US, and who abhor the common culture that makes us American, that they ought to go back to where they came from or go to places they seem to favor over America. Trump would have been better off saying what he really meant… If you hate it here so much, then leave for a place where you will feel all warm and fuzzy. It would have been a racist comment if her would have told The Squad that they don’t belong in our country because of their race or ethnic roots. But he didn’t do that, he attacked their radicalism. I understand most here won’t buy my response because of what so often seems to be a hair trigger to perceive racism. I wish Trump were a bit more eloquent with his attacks on the buffoonery and hatred of democrats like The Squad, as I believe his policy successes will be diminished by his personal flaws going into the 2020 election.