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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #1772
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Mongfinder General wrote: »
    You're god dam right. At last some real facts have been posted.


    That was the situation before Goldwater and Nixon decided to move the party to the right and go for the southern 'dixiecrats' vote. As a result the African American vote has gone, the vast majority of it, to the democrats.


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    #1773
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Reagan is a Democrat by today's Republican standards.
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    #1774
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    The post was a reply to the contention that democratic party voters were so dissapointed with Obama that they voted for trump. There is no evidence for this.
    A study by the Democracy Fund Voter Study Group found that 9.2% of Obama voters voted for Trump in 2016. And according to the American National Election Study, 13% of Trump voters had voted for Obama in 2012. So clearly there IS evidence for this.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1775
    Mongfinder General
    Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Odhinn wrote: »
    That was the situation before Goldwater and Nixon decided to move the party to the right and go for the southern 'dixiecrats' vote. As a result the African American vote has gone, the vast majority of it, to the democrats.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n_YQ8560E1w

    This lad nails it. Clowns like AOC will probably make a fortune out of poor black folk in the U.S. Democrats don't give a fcuk.


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    #1776
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Trump makes racist remarks, a disturbing chant at a rally not to mention Epstein child rape accusations and all the right wing want to talk about is Hillary Clinton and how bad AOC is.
    Says it all really he plays his base like a fiddle.


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    #1777
    Midlife
    Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Midlife


    Mongfinder General wrote: »
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n_YQ8560E1w

    This lad nails it. Clowns like AOC will probably make a fortune out of poor black folk in the U.S. Democrats don't give a fcuk.

    So remove government from everything, remove any form of welfare or state suppport and place your trust in God alone?


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    #1778
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    Trump makes racist remarks, a disturbing chant at a rally not to mention Epstein child rape accusations and all the right wing want to talk about is Hillary Clinton and how bad AOC is.
    Says it all really he plays his base like a fiddle.


    Oh bother. Your race card has been declined, once again. This country has had enough of democratic race bating. Democrats now throw the race card around as casually as saying hello. They even do it to themselves. The Squad was getting push back from their leadership and they respond by accusing Pelosi of racism. Democrats are playing checkers and Trump is playing chess. However inartful Trump's comments were he's no racist. Think about it… if a Somali born citizen was wearing a MAGA hat, do you think Trump would demonize him/her? A racist would, correct? What Trump did was bring to attention of the voters the un-Americanism of The Squad. They are proposing ideas that are deeply un-American, from coercive socialism to the loss of national sovereignty through open borders, and a whole lot of harm in-between. What ideas have any of them proposed that have anything to do with the perpetuation of our constitutional republic? The answer… NOTHING! They look to tear it down. And Pelosi’s efforts to remove The Squad from the front of cameras put them right back in front of the media, with on tweet, and forced Democratic leadership to defend and embrace them. Trump is the democrats Pied Piper.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1779
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Midlife wrote: »
    So remove government from everything, remove any form of welfare or state suppport and place your trust in God alone?

    Don't remove government from decisions about your womb or who you can marry though. Freedom.


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    #1780
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Trump is a racist. Only desperate shills bother denying this fact. That it makes then look either idiotic, or disingenuous is their cross to bear.


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    #1781
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Oh bother. Your race card has been declined, once again. This country has had enough of democratic race bating. Democrats now throw the race card around as casually as saying hello. They even do it to themselves. The Squad was getting push back from their leadership and they respond by accusing Pelosi of racism. Democrats are playing checkers and Trump is playing chess. However inartful Trump's comments were he's no racist. Think about it… if a Somali born citizen was wearing a MAGA hat, do you think Trump would demonize him/her? A racist would, correct? What Trump did was bring to attention of the voters the un-Americanism of The Squad. They are proposing ideas that are deeply un-American, from coercive socialism to the loss of national sovereignty through open borders, and a whole lot of harm in-between. What ideas have any of them proposed that have anything to do with the perpetuation of our constitutional republic? The answer… NOTHING! They look to tear it down. And Pelosi’s efforts to remove The Squad from the front of cameras put them right back in front of the media, with on tweet, and forced Democratic leadership to defend and embrace them. Trump is the democrats Pied Piper.

    AOC didn't call Pelosi a racist so maybe get info from a proper source. You know who actually is 9ne though. Donald Trump.


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    #1782
    Midlife
    Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Midlife


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Oh bother. Your race card has been declined, once again. This country has had enough of democratic race bating. Democrats now throw the race card around as casually as saying hello. They even do it to themselves. The Squad was getting push back from their leadership and they respond by accusing Pelosi of racism. Democrats are playing checkers and Trump is playing chess. However inartful Trump's comments were he's no racist. Think about it… if a Somali born citizen was wearing a MAGA hat, do you think Trump would demonize him/her? A racist would, correct? What Trump did was bring to attention of the voters the un-Americanism of The Squad. They are proposing ideas that are deeply un-American, from coercive socialism to the loss of national sovereignty through open borders, and a whole lot of harm in-between. What ideas have any of them proposed that have anything to do with the perpetuation of our constitutional republic? The answer… NOTHING! They look to tear it down. And Pelosi’s efforts to remove The Squad from the front of cameras put them right back in front of the media, with on tweet, and forced Democratic leadership to defend and embrace them. Trump is the democrats Pied Piper.

    When asked about what made Obama such a bad president, you opened with

    'he made race relations in the US far worse'

    Does Trump have any responsibility to behave differently than he is in your eyes?


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    #1783
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    AOC didn't call Pelosi a racist so maybe get info from a proper source.
    Did I say AOK did? Other members of The Squad did. Perhaps it is you that should become better at reading.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1784
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Midlife wrote: »
    When asked about what made Obama such a bad president, you opened with

    'he made race relations in the US far worse'

    Does Trump have any responsibility to behave differently than he is in your eyes?
    Yes, at times I wish he did. But democrats and the media accuse Trump of racism for EVERYTHING! They bear the greater responsibility.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1785
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Did I say AOK did? Other members of The Squad did. Perhaps it is you that should become better at reading.

    I’d love to see this claim backed up with some evidence - what with all the written comprehension issues about.


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    #1786
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Yes, at times I wish he did. But democrats and the media accuse Trump of racism for EVERYTHING! They bear the greater responsibility.

    No they don’t. Just the racist stuff - of which there’s much to call out.


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    #1787
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    20Cent wrote: »
    AOC didn't call Pelosi a racist so maybe get info from a proper source. You know who actually is 9ne though. Donald Trump.

    She went as far as you can go without actually saying it when she complained about Pelosi's "explicit singling out of newly elected women of color".

    If that's not saying Pelosi's actions were racially motivated then I don't know what is.


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    #1788
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    She went as far as you can go without actually saying it when she complained about Pelosi's "explicit singling out of newly elected women of color".

    Three criteria that I can see there. And Pelosi was singling them out,


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    #1789
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    What's the problem with women of colour sticking up for themselves? Should they just stfu.


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    #1790
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    alastair wrote: »
    I’d love to see this claim backed up with some evidence - what with all the written comprehension issues about.
    Rashida Tlaib accused democrat leadership, including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, of racism and using Congressional colleagues of color as "tokens of diversity." She also said "They put us in photos when they want to show our party is diverse,” “However, when we ask to be at the table, or speak up about issues that impact who we are, what we fight for & why we ran in the first place, we are ignored. To truly honor our diversity is to never silence us.”

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1791
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Rashida Tlaib accused democrat leadership, including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, of racism and using Congressional colleagues of color as "tokens of diversity." She also said "They put us in photos when they want to show our party is diverse,” “However, when we ask to be at the table, or speak up about issues that impact who we are, what we fight for & why we ran in the first place, we are ignored. To truly honor our diversity is to never silence us.”

    No she didn’t. Here’s the actual tweet.
    https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status/1117126415357497344


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    #1792
    Midlife
    Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Midlife


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Rashida Tlaib accused democrat leadership, including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, of racism and using Congressional colleagues of color as "tokens of diversity." She also said "They put us in photos when they want to show our party is diverse,” “However, when we ask to be at the table, or speak up about issues that impact who we are, what we fight for & why we ran in the first place, we are ignored. To truly honor our diversity is to never silence us.”

    Sounds fairly plausable. I mean, what exactly is your problem with that?

    They're elected members of the house. They don't want to be colour tokens ... which is exactly what both parties would do with them (just think of the black guy positions strategically at Trump events).

    I mean do you actually have a problem with that or is it that your side's position is to have a problem with that?


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    #1793
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Midlife wrote: »
    Sounds fairly plausable. I mean, what exactly is your problem with that?

    They're elected members of the house. They don't want to be colour tokens ... which is exactly what both parties would do with them (just think of the black guy positions strategically at Trump events).

    I mean do you actually have a problem with that or is it that your side's position is to have a problem with that?
    I was merely providing the information to a poster who was looking for it. That poster picked a selected item of a post I made of democrats about their loosey goosey use of the race card and how they've even started eating their own with it.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1794
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    alastair wrote: »
    No she didn’t. Here’s the actual tweet.
    https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status/1117126415357497344
    ????????? Isn't that what I wrote?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1795
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    20Cent wrote: »
    What's the problem with women of colour sticking up for themselves?

    Nothing, if they genuinely believe they are being mistreated purely because of the colour if their skin, I just don't think they were, and nor do I believe they think it either.


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    #1796
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Midlife wrote: »
    Sounds fairly plausable. I mean, what exactly is your problem with that?

    They're elected members of the house. They don't want to be colour tokens ... which is exactly what both parties would do with them (just think of the black guy positions strategically at Trump events).

    I mean do you actually have a problem with that or is it that your side's position is to have a problem with that?

    There are 96 NEW REPRESENTATIVES of the 116th Congress of The United States. 9 Senators and 89 New Representatives in the House (59 Dems and 29 Rep) .

    Wouldnt eveyone like to hear what the other 85 New Representatives in the House have to say instead of the constant noise from these 4 members of The Squad.

    I guess thats the lefts strategy laid out bare for all to see.
    We have 59 New Democrat members in The House but the only important ones are The Squad because as we all know EVERYTHING is now about race.. EVERYTHING.

    Antifa are hilarious.. they aint even good at being antifa.
    The millenials cant pull anything off.


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    #1797
    Midlife
    Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Midlife


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    There are 96 NEW REPRESENTATIVES of the 116th Congress of The United States. 9 Senators and 89 New Representatives in the House (59 Dems and 29 Rep) .

    Wouldnt eveyone like to hear what the other 85 New Representatives in the House have to say instead of the constant noise from these 4 members of The Squad.

    I guess thats the lefts strategy laid out bare for all to see.
    We have 59 New Democrat members in The House but the only important ones are The Squad because as we all know EVERYTHING is now about race.. EVERYTHING.

    Antifa are hilarious.. they aint even good at being antifa.
    The millenials cant pull anything off.

    Sorry, can't really engage. if you want to take turns answering and asking questions in an actual debate, then fine but this 'I'm going to just shout my side's talking points louder than you' doesn't appeal to me.

    We'lll just assume you did great and got all the main points across. Well done you.


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    #1798
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Nothing, if they genuinely believe they are being mistreated purely because of the colour if their skin, I just don't think they were, and nor do I believe they think it either.




    He stated they should go back where they came from, when 3 out of the 4 of them were born in the USA. That there's racism, and has long been seen as so.


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    #1799
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    RIGOLO wrote: »

    Wouldnt eveyone like to hear what the other 85 New Representatives in the House have to say instead of the constant noise from these 4 members of The Squad. .

    Depends on what side of the aisle you're on. If you're a Conservative those 4 are a Godsend since they're so insane that they're practically swearing Trump in for a second term already. They are a perfect encapsulation of just how extreme the Democrats and Liberalism has become. Just keep giving them an open mic and camera and let them go.


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    #1800
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Odhinn wrote: »
    He stated they should go back where they came from, when 3 out of the 4 of them were born in the USA. That there's racism, and has long been seen as so.

    He didn't name and names in that tweet. Its not his fault that they're so attention starved that they had to out themselves.


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    #1801
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    In the good old days these women would have just taken these slurs against themselves without getting all uppity about it.

    Thanks Obama.


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