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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #1862
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Aaaaaand David Quinns article in the Sunday Times is a whinge about a female James Bond. Marian Finucane has someone on justifying trumps racism and the concentration camps.

    The media is left wing though.


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    #1863
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    20Cent wrote: »
    Aaaaaand David Quinns article in the Sunday Times is a whinge about a female James Bond. Marian Finucane has someone on justifying trumps racism and the concentration camps.

    The media is left wing though.


    I hope the next Bond is Beyonce or someone like that. That'd be prime popcorn material.


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    #1864
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Would it matter to you whether he said it or not though? If you're ok with the POTUS saying it then why would you feel the need to defend this person?

    I'm not defending this person, they're a piece of trash as far as I'm concerned. They were calling Trump a Nazi online all week and then were a victim of that very thing themselves: 'being unjustifiable labelled a racist'. Karma at it's best as far as I'm concerned.
    MrFresh wrote: »
    Would it matter to you whether he said it or not though?

    I shouldn't have to say this (but I'm in a discussion with lefties so I will): I am against all forms of racism, including anyone being told to go back to where they came from purely because of the colour of their skin.
    If you're ok with the POTUS saying it then why would you feel the need to defend this person?

    If you paid attention you'd know that I wasn't okay with the POTUS saying what he did:
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    I don't think the chant was racist, although I concede it could be inferred as such, which is I why said I didn't like it's tone, but, it's kinda hard to chant.....
    "Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came then come back and show us how it is done"

    ... bit of a mouthful I'm sure you'll agree.


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    #1865
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    I'm not defending (..............) the POTUS saying what he did:




    ...but three of them are from America, so evidently there's something else about them that allows his and their wee brains to label them as "foreign".


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    #1866
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    I'm not defending this person, they're a piece of trash as far as I'm concerned. They were calling Trump a Nazi online all week and then were a victim of that very thing themselves: 'being unjustifiable labelled a racist'. Karma at it's best as far as I'm concerned.



    I shouldn't have to say this (but I'm in a discussion with lefties so I will): I am against all forms of racism, including anyone being told to go back to where they came from purely because of the colour of their skin.



    If you paid attention you'd know that I wasn't okay with the POTUS saying what he did:


    You said you didn't like it's tone and didn't think it was racist.


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    #1867
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Odhinn wrote: »
    ...but three of them are from America, so evidently there's something else about them that allows his and there wee brain to label them as "foreign".

    Can you post the quote, I've haven't seen him refer to them in that way.
    MrFresh wrote: »
    You said you didn't like it's tone and didn't think it was racist.

    I didn't like the tone of the chant, which is more in like with what Eric has been accused of saying. The POTUS said he didn't like the chant either by the way and has distanced himself from it.

    As for the tweets, I have said what I thought of them on the respective thread, quote one of my posts there if you want to discuss it with me further, as this is the Antifa thread.

    As for Sparkes, I'm not "defending" him, I am just pointing out that it looks like Erica has lied for attention and done a bit of Jussie... but, couldn't happen to a nicer guy, as even though it does seem he experienced racism growing up, doesn't justify him running around Facebook referring to the POTUS as a Nazi.


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    #1868
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Can you post the quote, I've haven't seen him refer to them in that way..


    Being obtuse are we?

    Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381395078000643


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    #1869
    Ted Johnson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 210 ✭✭Ted Johnson


    Would be no harm to make those who hate America or the west spend a year in Somalia.


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    #1870
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Being obtuse are we?

    Nope. So he didn't label them as "foreign" then, you meant to use italics rather than quotation marks, no bother.

    Happy to discuss it further on the other thread anyway. This one is for discussing Antifa scum.


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    #1871
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    No sign of yer mans alleged posts on his Facebook. Wouldn't surprise me if they were fake.


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    #1872
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Nope. So he didn't label them as "foreign" then, you meant to use italics rather than quotation marks, no bother.


    He tells them to go back where they came from. Logically this carries the implication that they are foriegn and from elsewhere. It takes a large degree of intellectual dishonesty to come to any other conclusion.


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    #1873
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Nope. So he didn't label them as "foreign" then, you meant to use italics rather than quotation marks, no bother.


    He said they were from other countries. Is that not foreign?


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    #1874
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    MrFresh wrote: »
    He said they were from other countries. Is that not foreign?
    Odhinn wrote: »
    He tells them to go back where they came from. Logically this carries the implication that they are foriegn and from elsewhere. It takes a large degree of intellectual dishonesty to come to any other conclusion.


    I have replied to these comments on the requisite thread.

    They have nothing to do with Antifa.


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    #1875
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    I have replied to these comments on the requisite thread.

    ................


    You brought the issues here and I answered them here.


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    #1876
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Nope, 20 Cent posted the Erica Thomas story here and again, it has nothing to do with Antifa.

    My response about the congresswomen is on the congresswomen thread. Ignore it if you wish.


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    #1877
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Midlife wrote: »
    This is shoocking from you notobtuse.

    She paid a tax fine and all the rest is baseless rumours.

    I'm dissappointed that you take an argument such as this. You should check where you get your news from and find out the details behind things.

    It's hard not to see racist undertones behind this and the birther thing.
    Washington, we have a problem. We have a sitting US Congresswoman who may have filed 9 years of fraudulent, felonious, tax returns. She also violated state rules when she used campaign funds to pay for personal out-of-state travel as well as help on her tax returns. And most serious of all she may have committed immigration fraud. Omar’s has a possible bigamy scheme hanging over her head and refuses to address the questions she married her brother in order to get him a green card. Homeland Security makes it clear this type of thing it is a serious crime, not a victimless harmless infraction, and weakens our nation’s security and makes us less safe. This year numerous people have been indicted on federal charges of conspiring to defraud our immigration system by arranging fake marriages that statutes state result in jail time and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. There is no question in my mind if this was a Republican congresswoman the media and democrats would be a Defcon One with early morning SWAT raids.

    Should we ignore a Democrat congresswoman’s disregard for our laws or should everyone get away with violating laws they don’t like... or just democrat minorities?

    I understand nothing will probably be done to her because she is a democrat and a minority. Democrats need to protect her at all costs. But that doesn’t mean we can’t keep this stuff in the forefront of the news to tell people democrats have become the party of lawlessness... They seem to also love Antifa, by the way. I’m so sick of people playing the race card... So now questioning serious lawlessness is racism. Figures!

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1878
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Washington, we have a problem. We have a sitting US Congresswoman who may have filed 9 years of fraudulent, felonious, tax returns. She also violated state rules when she used campaign funds to pay for personal out-of-state travel as well as help on her tax returns. And most serious of all she may have committed immigration fraud. Omar’s has a possible bigamy scheme hanging over her head and refuses to address the questions she married her brother in order to get him a green card. Homeland Security makes it clear this type of thing it is a serious crime, not a victimless harmless infraction, and weakens our nation’s security and makes us less safe. This year numerous people have been indicted on federal charges of conspiring to defraud our immigration system by arranging fake marriages that statutes state result in jail time and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. There is no question in my mind if this was a Republican congresswoman the media and democrats would be a Defcon One with early morning SWAT raids.

    Should we ignore a Democrat congresswoman’s disregard for our laws or should everyone get away with violating laws they don’t like... or just democrat minorities?

    I understand nothing will probably be done to her because she is a democrat and a minority. Democrats need to protect her at all costs. But that doesn’t mean we can’t keep this stuff in the forefront of the news to tell people democrats have become the party of lawlessness... They seem to also love Antifa, by the way. I’m so sick of people playing the race card... So now questioning serious lawlessness is racism. Figures!


    May have
    May have
    May have

    Come back when there is some actual evidence rather the fux news gossip.


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    #1879
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    May have
    May have
    May have

    Come back when there is some actual evidence rather the fux news gossip.
    You do realize they've investigated the President of the US for two years based on no evidence, right!

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1880
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    notobtuse wrote: »
    You do realize they've investigated the President of the US for two years based on no evidence, right!

    Annnnnnd the whataboutery.

    20 odd convictions so wouldn't say there was no evidence.


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    #1881
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    Annnnnnd the whataboutery.

    20 odd convictions so wouldn't say there was no evidence.
    Exposing hypocrisy is not whataboutery.

    The president received 20 convictions for colluding with Russia???? Nobody tells me nothing. :rolleyes:

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1882
    Seanachai
    Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    Keeping the streets safe from 'Nazis'..........

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/


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    #1883
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Seanachai wrote: »
    Keeping the streets safe from 'Nazis'..........

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/

    Stopped after seeing who wrote it.


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    #1884
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Exposing hypocrisy is not whataboutery.

    The president received 20 convictions for colluding with Russia???? Nobody tells me nothing. :rolleyes:

    These stories were started by fake ass "journalists " similar to Andy Ngo. Simply made up. Yet President Trump repeats them to throw dirt at opponents to cover his racism. His base also repeat them.


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    #1885
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    These stories were started by fake ass "journalists " similar to Andy Ngo. Simply made up. Yet President Trump repeats them to throw dirt at opponents to cover his racism. His base also repeat them.
    Sooooo.... Who started them? The tax fraud has already been proven.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1886
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Sooooo.... Who started them? The tax fraud has already been proven.

    She's been fined or jailed for tax fraud?
    Throw up a link there.


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    #1887
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Gas people who think trump should be allowed keep his tax returns a secret accusing others of fraud.


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    #1888
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    She's been fined or jailed for tax fraud?
    Throw up a link there.

    Omar repeatedly violated state rules when she used campaign funds to pay for personal out-of-state travel as well as help on her tax returns and had to reimburse her former campaign committee nearly $4,000. Federal tax fraud will probably be next for filing a joint return with a man who she had dependents with and who was not her husband, while possibly being married to her brother.

    https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/06/10/ilhan-omar-personal-tax-returns-controversy/

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #1889
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Omar repeatedly violated state rules when she used campaign funds to pay for personal out-of-state travel as well as help on her tax returns and had to reimburse her former campaign committee nearly $4,000. Federal tax fraud will probably be next for filing a joint return with a man who she had dependents with and who was not her husband, while possibly being married to her brother.

    https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/06/10/ilhan-omar-personal-tax-returns-controversy/


    So that's a no then.


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    #1890
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    No comment needed.
    Trump makes the white power hand symbol when saying AOC's name.

    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1153693921542909953?s=19


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    #1891
    [Deleted User]
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    20Cent wrote:
    No comment needed. Trump makes the white power hand symbol when saying AOC's name.

    Oh Christ. You are really reaching


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