Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

20Cent

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Is it just my imagination or does that look like a really bad photoshop job?

Looks like a photoshoot for a magazine, hair, makeup lights em Shooting victim.

p1akuw47h5r3it

Brian? wrote: »

What double standard exactly? Who's on here cheerleading for Obama?

Sorry, I didn't mean specific to this thread. And personally I'd be cheerleading for Obama if I could!

ohnonotgmail

20Cent wrote: »

Looks like a photoshoot for a magazine, hair, makeup lights em Shooting victim.

trumps head looks like it has been stuck in. the angle of his neck is all wrong.

20Cent

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

trumps head looks like it has been stuck in. the angle of his neck is all wrong.

He always looks wrong, smearing orange goo on his face everyday (except around his eye like a panda), the hair of course, he doesn't seem to know how trousers work either.
None of the family seems comfortable in their skin.

lawlolawl

You were probably one of the people who were outraged by people saying Michelle Obama looks like a man in drag but it's perfectly ok to rag on Trump and his family for their appearance.

Overheal

lawlolawl wrote: »

You were probably one of the people who were outraged by people saying Michelle Obama looks like a man in drag but it's perfectly ok to rag on Trump and his family for their appearance.

You’re trying to compare comments about Trumps actual makeup and a smear campaign about a First Lady being a shemale?

Overheal

biko wrote: »

Not sure why you posted in an Antifa thread about this.
Isn't there a Trump Derangement Syndrome thread around here somewhere?

Trump posing with a victim of a shooting someone else did - bad
Obama posing with a disabled soldier sent to Afghanistan on his orders - fine


"If it weren't for you, Mr President, I would have had my legs still"

You really don’t see the differences here?

mynamejeff

20Cent wrote: »

He always looks wrong, smearing orange goo on his face everyday (except around his eye like a panda), the hair of course, he doesn't seem to know how trousers work either.
None of the family seems comfortable in their skin.

probably lizard people right ?

is that your real problem with conservatives ? they are all lizard people ?

20Cent

lawlolawl wrote: »

You were probably one of the people who were outraged by people saying Michelle Obama looks like a man in drag but it's perfectly ok to rag on Trump and his family for their appearance.

Do you wear orange makeup everyday?
Why not?

ohnonotgmail

20Cent wrote: »

He always looks wrong, smearing orange goo on his face everyday (except around his eye like a panda), the hair of course, he doesn't seem to know how trousers work either.
None of the family seems comfortable in their skin.

what i dont understand is that for people who claim to have a lot of money they never seem to be able to buy clothes that fit. I mean, look at donnie junior on the right. the fit of that jacket is just shocking. I could sew a potato sack and make it fit better than that.

Ironicname

lawlolawl wrote:

You were probably one of the people who were outraged by people saying Michelle Obama looks like a man in drag but it's perfectly ok to rag on Trump and his family for their appearance.

Fair comment.

Overheal wrote:

You’re trying to compare comments about Trumps actual makeup and a smear campaign about a First Lady being a shemale?

They are incredibly similar. They are both insulting the physical attributes of a person in an insulting way.

For full disclosure, I didn't think the Michelle Obama comments were very nice either. Should they have been vilified? No. Should trump name calling be vilified? No. But you should be at least consistent with 'body shaming'

ohnonotgmail

Ironicname wrote: »

Fair comment.



They are incredibly similar. They are both insulting the physical attributes of a person in an insulting way.

For full disclosure, I didn't think the Michelle Obama comments were very nice either. Should they have been vilified? No. Should trump name calling be vilified? No. But you should be at least consistent with 'body shaming'

trump is not being body-shamed. people are criticising his choice of makeup (and hairstyle and poor choice in clothes). what was said about Michelle Obama goes way beyond body-shaming.

Ironicname

ohnonotgmail wrote:

trump is not being body-shamed. people are criticising his choice of makeup (and hairstyle and poor choice in clothes). what was said about Michelle Obama goes way beyond body-shaming.

Do you in any way think that your view might be skewed because of your personal feelings?

Ironicname

ohnonotgmail wrote:

trump is not being body-shamed. people are criticising his choice of makeup (and hairstyle and poor choice in clothes). what was said about Michelle Obama goes way beyond body-shaming.

What I'm asking is, are you consistent that nobody should be publicly insulted for the way they look?

ohnonotgmail

Ironicname wrote: »

What I'm asking is, are you consistent that nobody should be publicly insulted for the way they look?

Michelle was not just insulted for how she looked. there were people saying that she was actually transgender.

ohnonotgmail

Ironicname wrote: »

Do you in any way think that your view might be skewed because of your personal feelings?

can you point out anything in the post you responded to that was not factual? Because if what i posted is factual, and i believe it was, then my view is irrelevant.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

20Cent wrote: »

Photo opportunity.


https://twitter.com/LMplusG/status/1159260810482315265?s=19

All politicians do that. A quick google of any politicans name and a hospital and you get the photo-op.

The reaction on twitter is interesting though. If this keeps up the US may fall apart.

SexBobomb

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Michelle was not just insulted for how she looked. there were people saying that she was actually transgender.

Ok so you're talking about the degree of insult and your saying it was worse against Obama than Trump but I'll quote the question Ironicname asked again "... are you consistent that nobody should be publicly insulted for the way they look? "

Franz Von Peppercorn II

20Cent wrote: »

Do you wear orange makeup everyday?
Why not?

There’s a lot more to worry about with regards trump than his makeup.

ohnonotgmail

SexBobomb wrote: »

Ok so you're talking about the degree of insult and your saying it was worse against Obama than Trump but I'll quote the question Ironicname asked again "... are you consistent that nobody should be publicly insulted for the way they look? "

People are free to insult anybody they want. I've insulted donnie junior for the way they look not 1 hour ago. the insults against Michelle Obama went a long way beyond insulting her looks.

p1akuw47h5r3it

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

People are free to insult anybody they want. I've insulted donnie junior for the way they look not 1 hour ago. the insults against Michelle Obama went a long way beyond insulting her looks.

Leftwinger insults someone = good
Rightwinger Insults someone = bad.

If Brian is around this is the double standard I was referring to earlier that is prevalent in America.

Ironicname

Some people actually say that Trump is literally a Nazi. It doesn't make them right.

Some people say Michelle Obama is a transgender person. Doesn't make them right.

That's not what I asked.

Is it ok to say that Michelle Obama looks like she is a transgender person if you can accept that it's ok to make fun of Trump's appearance.

ohnonotgmail

DanDan6592 wrote: »

Leftwinger insults someone = good
Rightwinger Insults someone = bad.

If Brian is around this is the double standard I was referring to earlier that is prevalent in America.

I would love to know what post you thought you were responding to.

p1akuw47h5r3it

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I would love to know what post you thought you were responding to.

You're one, you know, the one I quoted.

ohnonotgmail

DanDan6592 wrote: »

You're one, you know, the one I quoted.

perhaps you missed the bit where i said. Or maybe you were just too keen to jump on your soapbox.

People are free to insult anybody they want.

p1akuw47h5r3it

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

perhaps you missed the bit where i said. Or maybe you were just too keen to jump on your soapbox.

I know you never said otherwise. But it's a double standard to suggest those who criticized/insulted Michelle Obama went too far but the insults that Trump has being getting for ages now about being orange, his hair, his choice of clothes is all fair and good.

ohnonotgmail

DanDan6592 wrote: »

I know you never said otherwise. But it's a double standard to suggest those who criticized/insulted Michelle Obama went too far but the insults that Trump has being getting for ages now about being orange, his hair, his choice of clothes is all fair and good.

if you cant see the difference between suggesting that somebody is transgender (not just looks like but actually are not and insulting somebodies poor choice in makeup, hair, clothes, and pretty much everything else then there isn't much point talking to you.

Ironicname

ohnonotgmail wrote:

if you cant see the difference between suggesting that somebody is transgender (not just looks like but actually are not and insulting somebodies poor choice in makeup, hair, clothes, and pretty much everything else then there isn't much point talking to you.

I'd go on record to say that there is roughly the same amount of evidence that trump is a Nazi than there is for Michelle Obama being a man.

Either both are acceptable to say or none are.

ohnonotgmail

Ironicname wrote: »

I'd go on record to say that there is roughly the same amount of evidence that trump is a Nazi than there is for Michelle Obama being a man.

Either both are acceptable to say or none are.

Personally i would prefer to keep an opinion as stupid as that to myself but each to their own.

Brian?

DanDan6592 wrote: »

Leftwinger insults someone = good
Rightwinger Insults someone = bad.

If Brian is around this is the double standard I was referring to earlier that is prevalent in America.

The 2 are not comparable. People shared pictures of Michelle Obama comparing her to a chimp, that was way beyond laughing at a haircut

Ironicname

ohnonotgmail wrote:

Personally i would prefer to keep an opinion as stupid as that to myself but each to their own.

I'm saying there is no proof of either. I stand by that.

Brian? wrote:

The 2 are not comparable. People shared pictures of Michelle Obama comparing her to a chimp, that was way beyond laughing at a haircut

There was. They were terrible. That isn't connected to what we are talking about now though.

p1akuw47h5r3it

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

if you cant see the difference between suggesting that somebody is transgender (not just looks like but actually are not and insulting somebodies poor choice in makeup, hair, clothes, and pretty much everything else then there isn't much point talking to you.

Apologies, I see the confusion. I wasn't aware it was said that she actually was, just that she looked like. The two are different as you say. Was this done by the media, or random people on the internet?

biko

Overheal wrote: »

You really don’t see the differences here?

Orange man bad?

Is it more subtle, I have to "feel" it?

20Cent

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

There’s a lot more to worry about with regards trump than his makeup.

True its very far down my list pf reasons to dislike him.

Chris_Heilong

Somehow we have moved away from the Antifa bad......Antifa good topic and moved onto general politics and political figures getting their feelings hurt over mean words.

Ironicname

Chris_Heilong wrote:

Somehow we have moved away from the Antifa bad......Antifa good topic and moved onto general politics and political figures getting their feelings hurt over mean words.

Nope. Still talking about hypocrisy of antifa supporters.

20Cent

More trump inspired violence.


MISSOULA, Mont. — The attorney for a Montana man accused of throwing a 13-year-old boy to the ground at a rodeo because the teenager didn’t remove his hat during the national anthem says his client believes he was acting on an order from President Trump.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-08-07/national-anthem-attack-trump

Ironicname

20Cent wrote:

MISSOULA, Mont. — The attorney for a Montana man accused of throwing a 13-year-old boy to the ground at a rodeo because the teenager didn’t remove his hat during the national anthem says his client believes he was acting on an order from President Trump.

Definitely. I'm pretty sure I heard trump a report of President Trump ordering people to fracture skulls of 13 year olds who don't take off hats during national anthems.

20Cent

Ironicname wrote: »

Definitely. I'm pretty sure I heard trump a report of President Trump ordering people to fracture skulls of 13 year olds who don't take off hats during national anthems.

That's what the attacker says.


His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” attorney Lance Jaspertold The Missoulian. “He certainly didn’t understand [the attack] was a crime.



Trump will probably give him a pardon.

Ironicname

20Cent wrote:

His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,†attorney Lance Jaspertold The Missoulian. “He certainly didn’t understand [the attack] was a crime.

It sounds like a vicious thug's lawyer is using the left's view on Trump as a spurious reason to receive a lenient sentence.

If trump tries to pardon him, I will be first to vilify him.

20Cent

Ironicname wrote: »

It sounds like a vicious thug's lawyer is using the left's view on Trump as a spurious reason to receive a lenient sentence.

If trump tries to pardon him, I will be first to vilify him.

People using trumps own words against him yet again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGezQpJuLbg

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/803567993036754944?s=19

ohnonotgmail

20Cent wrote: »

That's what the attacker says.


His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” attorney Lance Jaspertold The Missoulian. “He certainly didn’t understand [the attack] was a crime.



Trump will probably give him a pardon.

Trump can only pardon federal crimes

Ironicname

20Cent wrote:

People using trumps own words against him yet again.

Ah right. So not using his words.

I didn't agree with trump for his opposition on that NFL player.

But to say that him saying that the NFL player was should be fired for the taking of the knee is not akin to fracturing a child's skull for not removing a hat.

That is a very tenuous link at best.

20Cent

Ironicname wrote: »

Ah right. So not using his words.

I didn't agree with trump for his opposition on that NFL player.

But to say that him saying that the NFL player was should be fired for the taking of the knee is not akin to fracturing a child's skull for not removing a hat.

That is a very tenuous link at best.

Well the guy who did it made the connection.
Kid with the fractured skull might take solace in that.

Overheal

Ironicname wrote: »

Nope. Still talking about hypocrisy of antifa supporters.

Pleas explain

20Cent

State department suspends staffer over reported ties to white supremacist group

Surprised he didn't get a promotion.



The State Department has suspended a staffer in its energy bureau after the Southern Poverty Law Center reported that he had ties to a white supremacist group.

The SPLC reported:

The official, Matthew Q. Gebert, works as a foreign affairs officer assigned to the Bureau of Energy Resources, a State Department spokesperson told Hatewatch. Online, and in private correspondences with other white nationalists, Gebert uses ‘Coach Finstock’ as a pseudonym. Through that alias, he expressed a desire to build a country for whites only.

‘[Whites] need a country of our own with nukes, and we will retake this thing lickety split,’ ‘Coach Finstock’ said on a May 2018 episode of ‘The Fatherland,’ a white nationalist podcast. ‘That’s all that we need. We need a country founded for white people with a nuclear deterrent. And you watch how the world trembles

biko

Why do you keep posting non-antifa posts in this thread?
You understand you can create other threads?

20Cent

biko wrote: »

Why do you keep posting non-antifa posts in this thread?
You understand you can create other threads?

You can't really discuss antifa without discussing fa now can ya.

Overheal

biko wrote: »

Why do you keep posting non-antifa posts in this thread?
You understand you can create other threads?

Fascists in the administration yo

notobtuse

Speaking to reporters at the White House yesterday, Trump said he was 'concerned about the rise of any group of hate' and referred to white supremacists and anti-fascist activists (antifa). He noted… 'Whether it’s any group or kind of hate ... I am concerned about it and I’ll do something about it.'

And on August 17, members of the far-right Proud Boys will meet again in Portland for a rally to “End Domestic Terrorism.” Nearby, antifascists and other counterprotesters will rally against the Proud Boys. The Portland police chief said messages posted online “suggest some attendees plan to engage in violence.” The Proud Boys are stating they will only participate in violence in self-defense. Neither group has a permit to protest. What can go wrong?