Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

20Cent

mad muffin wrote: »

It’s actually worldwide. There is no western country left that isn’t affected by the leftists.

Since the rise of the leftists. There has been more violence. More division. Then ever before.

The left can do and say what ever they want. woe betide anyone who disagrees. They will be called a racist. They will be censored. They will be ostracised. They will be silenced. They will be ridiculed. And now thanks to antifa. They will be beaten up.

The US rightwing government
UK rightwing government.
Ireland rightwing government.

But the left are so powerful?

Locking people up in cages with no blankets or showers is fine. Calling a racist a racist is terrible.

Messed up priorities.

mad muffin

20Cent wrote: »

The US rightwing government
UK rightwing government.
Ireland rightwing government.

But the left are so powerful?

Locking people up in cages with no blankets or showers is fine. Calling a racist a racist is terrible.

Messed up priorities.

Look it’s point less calling them right wing. They might have been right of centre 10 years ago but they are most definitely left of centre now.

Austria is right of centre
Italy is right of centre
Hungary is right if centre
Poland is right of centre
Russia is Right of centre

You can call out the conditions of the detention centres. That’s not a problem at all. What those conditions are exactly we don’t know. But to say it’s trumps fault and to call him racist for it is laughable.

Overheal

mad muffin wrote: »

It’s actually worldwide. There is no western country left that isn’t affected by the leftists.

Since the rise of the leftists. There has been more violence. More division. Then ever before.

The left can do and say what ever they want. woe betide anyone who disagrees. They will be called a racist. They will be censored. They will be ostracised. They will be silenced. They will be ridiculed. And now thanks to antifa. They will be beaten up.

That’s an interesting claim and I’m sure you have evidence for it

20Cent

mad muffin wrote: »

Look it’s point less calling them right wing. They might have been right of centre 10 years ago but they are most definitely left of centre now.

Austria is right of centre
Italy is right of centre
Hungary is right if centre
Poland is right of centre
Russia is Right of centre

You can call out the conditions of the detention centres. That’s not a problem at all. What those conditions are exactly we don’t know. But to say it’s trumps fault and to call him racist for it is laughable.

I call trump.a racist because of the long list of racist stuff he's said and done. Not just one incident.

The camps.are trumps.fault the buck stops.with him.

Danzy

20Cent wrote: »

Antifa are the elites now?

Their children.

mad muffin

20Cent wrote: »

I call trump.a racist because of the long list of racist stuff he's said and done. Not just one incident.

The camps.are trumps.fault the buck stops.with him.

If only that was so easy. But unfortunately the buck stops with the house of Congress and the Dems have house majority.

Seanachai

20Cent wrote: »

The US rightwing government
UK rightwing government.
Ireland rightwing government.

But the left are so powerful?

Locking people up in cages with no blankets or showers is fine. Calling a racist a racist is terrible.

Messed up priorities.

Left and right are almost meaningless now, the ruling class can pick and choose all the worst bits from each. FG are firmly in line with the EPP and globalism, they are anti-nationalist and despite being perfectly content to reduce workers to serfs are not authoritarian.

Overheal

mad muffin wrote: »

If only that was so easy. But unfortunately the buck stops with the house of Congress and the Dems have house majority.

Nope.

Sure Trump used emergency powers to find part of the wall. SCOTUS backed him. So try another.

Never mind your terrible play on words.

mad muffin

Overheal wrote: »

That’s an interesting claim and I’m sure you have evidence for it

What more evidence do you need than to look at the news.

Trump calls out Cummings that his district is in disarray. Calling Baltimore a rat and crime infested city. And what happens? Trump, yet again gets labeled racist. For pointing out the obvious painful truth. That indeed Baltimore is a dumpster fire. But noooo RACIST! the left chants.

Bernie sanders calls it a third world country worse than North Korea? What happens? Crickets…

Antifa doesn’t like the conservative reporting of Andy Ngo. What happens. He gets beat the **** up.

And on and on and on it goes.

mad muffin

Overheal wrote: »

Nope.

Sure Trump used emergency powers to find part of the wall. SCOTUS backed him. So try another.

Never mind your terrible play on words.

Nope. Lol. What nope?

But the way

https://gaetz.house.gov/media/in-the-news/matt-gaetz-plays-audio-top-democrat-denying-laughing-border-crisis-question

I guess so then…

Overheal

mad muffin wrote: »

What more evidence do you need than to look at the news.

Trump calls out Cummings that his district is in disarray. Calling Baltimore a rat and crime infested city. And what happens? Trump, yet again gets labeled racist. For pointing out the obvious painful truth. That indeed Baltimore is a dumpster fire. But noooo RACIST! the left chants.

Bernie sanders calls it a third world country worse than North Korea? What happens? Crickets…

Antifa doesn’t like the conservative reporting of Andy Ngo. What happens. He gets beat the **** up.

And on and on and on it goes.

The fake news? You guys called it fake. Also, news reports events in real-time, you’ve made a global sweeping claim from a historic perspective, alluding to an ability to verify it with hard data and statistics.

Sweetemotion

notobtuse wrote: »

https://rosecityantifa.org/articles/statement-against-criminalizing-protest/

That's some funny shiit right there. Can just imagine these clowns sitting around a table at the Cider Riot, giving each other high fives and jazz hands while drinking a glass of shandy or a white wine spritzer. With the self belief they are the saviours of man kind.

Truth is, if they believed in their convictions, non mask laws and being labeled a terrorist shouldn't deter them. They just want to smash things up when they feel like it and not face any consequences.

We don't hear to much about Berkeley since the police are enforcing a no mask rule.

Seanachai

Sweetemotion wrote: »

That's some funny shiit right there. Can just imagine these clowns sitting around a table at the Cider Riot, giving each other high fives and jazz hands while drinking a glass of shandy or a white wine spritzer. With the self belief they are the saviours of man kind.

Truth is, if they believed in their convictions, non mask laws and being labeled a terrorist shouldn't deter them. They just want to smash things up when they feel like it and not face any consequences.

We don't hear to much about Berkeley since the police are enforcing a no mask rule.

I can just imagine the Hilary voters buying them coffees and beers back in their neighbourhood, 'our boys' out on the front-line.

20Cent

Really specific imaginary scenarios you folks have. So funny.

mad muffin

Sweetemotion wrote: »

That's some funny shiit right there. Can just imagine these clowns sitting around a table at the Cider Riot, giving each other high fives and jazz hands while drinking a glass of shandy or a white wine spritzer. With the self belief they are the saviours of man kind.

Truth is, if they believed in their convictions, non mask laws and being labeled a terrorist shouldn't deter them. They just want to smash things up when they feel like it and not face any consequences.

We don't hear to much about Berkeley since the police are enforcing a no mask rule.

These fine upstanding Muslim women. Who continue to use anti Semitic tropes. And are now possibly in Qatar’s pocket.

Overheal

mad muffin wrote: »

These fine upstanding Muslim women. Who continue to use anti Semitic tropes. And are now possibly in Qatar’s pocket.

Oh look, more unfounded gaslighting.

NKante

Overheal wrote: »

Oh look, more unfounded gaslighting.

Oh look someone making excuses for leftist and Islamist anti-semitism.

But will shout "raaaaacist" as soon as Trump opens his mouth.

Overheal

NKante wrote: »

Oh look someone making excuses for leftist and Islamist anti-semitism.

But will shout "raaaaacist" as soon as Trump opens his mouth.

I was talking about the Qatar reference but do go on.

mad muffin

Overheal wrote: »

Oh look, more unfounded gaslighting.

Haha.

Don’t take my word for it…

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1154426961646649345

Overheal

mad muffin wrote: »

Haha.

Don’t take my word for it…

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1154426961646649345

A tweet? Lol

lawlolawl

Overheal wrote: »

A tweet? Lol

If only you'd take Trump tweets as lightly.

Overheal

“Tawhidi’s skyrocketing status in far-right circles in America and Britain comes two years after he was largely discredited in Australia. As a deep dive into his background by Bronwyn Adcock, a reporter for the Australian public broadcaster ABC, revealed, Tawhidi is a fringe cleric with no academic credentials, no mosque, and less than a handful of followers in the real world. His public profile stems not from any work within his faith community, but from his willingness to play a concerned Muslim reformer on TV, on social media, and in a series of high-profile interviews with far-right YouTube personalities.”

https://theintercept.com/2019/06/25/mohamad-tawhidi-far-right/

With no evidence, he has made claims on social media to endear himself to tinfoil lunatics.

Overheal

lawlolawl wrote: »

If only you'd take Trump tweets as lightly.

If Trump attempts to make factual claims without basis, I certainly do take them VERY lightly.

mad muffin

Overheal wrote: »

“Tawhidi’s skyrocketing status in far-right circles in America and Britain comes two years after he was largely discredited in Australia. As a deep dive into his background by Bronwyn Adcock, a reporter for the Australian public broadcaster ABC, revealed, Tawhidi is a fringe cleric with no academic credentials, no mosque, and less than a handful of followers in the real world. His public profile stems not from any work within his faith community, but from his willingness to play a concerned Muslim reformer on TV, on social media, and in a series of high-profile interviews with far-right YouTube personalities.”

https://theintercept.com/2019/06/25/mohamad-tawhidi-far-right/

With no evidence, he has made claims on social media to endear himself to tinfoil lunatics.

Like I say. If the leftist doesn’t like the narrative. They tear it down. Deride it. Ridicule it. Ostracise it.

But that’s okay. I’ll go with your narrative. A Muslim man wants to endear himself to right wingers. Maybe he yearns for the past when Muslims and nazis were brothers in arms against the Jews?

Overheal

mad muffin wrote: »

Like I say. If the leftist doesn’t like the narrative. They tear it down. Deride it. Ridicule it. Ostracise it.

...you mean, literally what you, and this person, are actively trying to do to Rep. Omar?

Breathtaking self-awareness. Natural 1.

snowblind

Seanachai wrote: »

People can approve of Trump's policies or even some of his policies while still not liking him as a person or believing every word that comes out of his mouth. Any progressives that go to bed angry about Trump should thank the stars that their globalist approach in the past few years hasn't created some kind of genuine authoritarian regime. If Giliad comes into effect, it will because of the labours of these people, not the alt-right or regular people who don't like open borders.

Modern-liberals\progressives\anti-fascists can label anybody that they disagree with as being fascist without a shred of evidence and then just do a mic-drop, pat themselves on the back.

I'm talking about the people here who won't take into consideration any other than Trump approved media. That's succumbing to be a propaganda machine, letting daddy trump have complete control over your ideas. Makes sense when we're talking about white supremacist with führer fantasies :rolleyes:

Danzy

Overheal wrote: »

“Tawhidi’s skyrocketing status in far-right circles in America and Britain comes two years after he was largely discredited in Australia. As a deep dive into his background by Bronwyn Adcock, a reporter for the Australian public broadcaster ABC, revealed, Tawhidi is a fringe cleric with no academic credentials, no mosque, and less than a handful of followers in the real world. His public profile stems not from any work within his faith community, but from his willingness to play a concerned Muslim reformer on TV, on social media, and in a series of high-profile interviews with far-right YouTube personalities.”

https://theintercept.com/2019/06/25/mohamad-tawhidi-far-right/

With no evidence, he has made claims on social media to endear himself to tinfoil lunatics.

He is from a tiny sect in Islam that are reformed, have a later Prophet.

They are very small and are being hounded out of the Islamic world and are especially hated by Sunni Islam.

He wouldn't last long if he went into Clonskeagh , he previously got a kicking there.

His sect remains a high profile target for Islamists in Europe.

He has as much claim to being a learnt Imam as any other, he just didn't follow the Strict doctrinal line of Sunni Islam. He believes that Gays must not be hated or killed, an act of apostasy and one for which he has been threatened with death for. He gets lots of death threats.

Tawhidi Is a progressive taking on the most reactionary group in the modern world, he should be an icon of the Left, once a upon a t9me he would have been, he certainly is in many Islamic States.

Personally I think it is only a matter of time before he gets killed.

mad muffin

Overheal wrote: »

...you mean, literally what you, and this person, are actively trying to do to Rep. Omar?

Breathtaking self-awareness. Natural 1.

Oh exposing the truth is a bad thing now… I see.

Overheal

mad muffin wrote: »

Oh exposing the truth is a bad thing now… I see.

Well, that's what you just argued a moment ago:

Like I say. If the leftist doesn’t like the narrative. They tear it down. Deride it. Ridicule it. Ostracise it.

Brian?

notobtuse wrote: »

Seems the Rose City Antifa group has issued a statement, which was signed on by a long list of other Antifa groups. It was published in response to the efforts by Ted Cruz who recommended designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist group.

It’s a lot of cringeworthy stuff to take in, so I’ll give you the gist…

We’re not bad people. We’re your neighbors... Neighbors with bats, wearing masks so we can get violent with impunity.

We aren’t all violent and therefore it’s not fair to label us all violent… But we chooses to dress in black and travel with violent people in our midst in order to create camouflage for those who are violent as a matter of considered strategy. Deal with it!

We’re demanding the efforts to stop “concentration camps,” not criminalize us… And just ignore one of our own showing up at an ICE facility with bombs and a rifle.

It’s not the human beings of consciences that should be a target, it’s the bats and bike locks that seemingly have a mind of their own.

Do what we want and no one else has to get hurt!

Statement on the Far-Right's Attempt to Criminalize Protest of Concentration Camp Deaths and Hate Groups

https://rosecityantifa.org/articles/statement-against-criminalizing-protest/

I also enjoy making stuff up. It’s fun.