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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #242
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    klaaaz wrote: »
    they are designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    Yet the FBI doesn't' class them as such.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2018/12/head-of-oregons-fbi-bureau-doesnt-designate-proud-boys-as-extremist-group.html
    klaaaz wrote: »
    The Proud Boys... as well as hating other races and minorities

    This I cannot agree with, indeed the very founder of the Proud Boys might suggest such a claim as laughable considering he is married to an Indian woman.


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    #243
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Pity he didn't kill him

    The more dead neo nazis the better

    ****ing hell, you really are invested in this arent you?

    What's your own personal experience with these neo nazis?


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    #244
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Any examples of countries which were communist?

    Soviet Union for a few months maybe.


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    #245
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    Yet the FBI doesn't' class them as such.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2018/12/head-of-oregons-fbi-bureau-doesnt-designate-proud-boys-as-extremist-group.html



    This I cannot agree with, indeed the very founder of the Proud Boys might suggest such a claim as laughable considering he is married to an Indian woman.

    Didn't one of them found Vice news?


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    #246
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    Yet the FBI doesn't' class them as such.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2018/12/head-of-oregons-fbi-bureau-doesnt-designate-proud-boys-as-extremist-group.html



    This I cannot agree with, indeed the very founder of the Proud Boys might suggest such a claim as laughable considering he is married to an Indian woman.

    And Trump is married to an immigrant only got her papers after he became President. Proves he's cool with all immigrants?


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    #247
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    klaaaz wrote: »
    They are also at the forefront of organising the so called Boston straight pride

    Not that I've much issues with something so laughably banal as a straight pride parade, would you care to cite some evidence that your claim is correct.


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    #248
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    peddlelies wrote: »
    So you agree that it's fine to sucker punch random people leaving Trump rallies. At least you've made your stance crystal clear, good man.

    :confused:

    Did I?

    Have you a link, I must have missed that?
    peddlelies wrote: »
    If you're going to throw up some nut like the guy in the photo, don't forgot the guy on the other side who shot up a Republican baseball game.

    Didn't realize it was a competition.

    There is a joke about gun control in there somewhere though.


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    #249
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Far left. Far right. A very small but very loud and obnoxious fraction of the overall political spectrum.


    You seem to miss this part:
    0208e59ac7b7732789224362ace789dd-full.jpg

    No mainstream left-wing media criticizes these hooligans. They are free to use twitter as their network. This is double standards in the extreme.


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    #250
    _blaaz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Because one is a real degree absolutely needed for the job and one isn’t?

    The vast majority of journalists didn’t do a journalism course.

    Historically none of them did.

    Wtf....people presenting emselves as journalists....and they not qualified...how is that?


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    #251
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,541 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    And Trump is married to an immigrant only got her papers after he became President. Proves he's cool with all immigrants?

    took a minute to see she's been a citizen since 2006.


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    #252
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Boggles wrote: »
    Yeah, leave Trump supporters alone, harmless all together.
    Yeah, just as harmless as Black Lives Matters supporters I suppose.

    https://twitter.com/fox7austin/status/883286761073291264


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    #253
    klaaaz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    SnakePlissken wrote: »
    Not that I've much issues with something so laughably banal as a straight pride parade, would you care to cite some evidence that your claim is correct.

    Enjoy the read about the links to subversives https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/7/1/18761623/straight-pride
    “spent [his] entire career advocating for the rights of America’s most brutally repressed identity: straight people.”

    As ThinkProgress was the first to report, Mark Sahady — one of three men credited with organizing the event — has ties to the New Hampshire American Guard and the Massachusetts Patriot Front, both of which the American Defamation League defines as a white supremacist groups. He also has connections to the Proud Boys, the group that was responsible for violently beating a man who stole one of their MAGA hats on the streets of New York City in October 2018. The mob called him a “f*****,” threw him to the ground, and kicked him repeatedly.


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    #254
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Varik wrote: »
    took a minute to see she's been a citizen since 2006.

    Yeah, the part time model qualified for an "Einstein Visa".

    :pac:


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    #255
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Wtf....people presenting emselves as journalists....and they not qualified...how is that?

    Can you rephrase that?

    A journalist is someone who gets paid for journalism. Or even does it for free. Generally an employee but not always.

    You guys concentrate on the weirdest things.

    How hard is it to condemn this though? At least one well regarded boards left winger has done so.

    Are the other side worse. Probably. Definitely. Irrelevant.


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    #256
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    So from looking at the thread there are allot of people in favor of using violence in politics.


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    #257
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Can you rephrase that?

    A journalist is someone who gets paid for journalism. Or even does it for free. Generally an employee but not always.

    You guys concentrate on the weirdest things.

    How hard is it to condemn this though? At least one well regarded boards left winger has done so.

    Are the other side worse. Probably. Irrelevant.

    The well regarded poster that condoned murder, the bar is fairly low around here.


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    #258
    peddlelies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    Boggles wrote: »

    :confused:

    Did I?

    Have you a link, I must have missed that?

    You wrote
    Yeah, leave Trump supporters alone, harmless all together.

    After I posted a video of Trump supporters being attacked leaving a rally. You made your intention clear, don't have much time for playing stupid I'm afraid.


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    #259
    _blaaz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Can you rephrase that?

    A journalist is someone who gets paid for journalism. Or even does it for free. Generally an employee but not always.

    You guys concentrate on the weirdest things.

    How hard is it to condemn this though? At least one well regarded boards left winger has done so.

    Are the other side worse. Probably. Irrelevant.
    I dont believe in politics of condemnation....life is about positive vibes....if you spend your time condeming stuff...it will only suck happiness from your life



    Not exactly what yous want me to rephrase?


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    #260
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    _blaaz wrote: »
    I dont believe in politics of condemnation....life is about positive vibes....if you spend your time condeming stuff...it will only suck happiness from your life



    Not exactly what yous want me to rephrase?


    Your last barely comprehensible post. It’s ok. I got the idea.

    So you are saying you wouldn’t condemn right wing violence?


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    #261
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Enjoy the read about the links to subversives https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/7/1/18761623/straight-pride

    The only thing this article proves is the extreme reaction you get when the left start playing identity politics. Identity politics should be shunned and denigrated in all of its forms.
    "Boston’s Straight Pride was only a matter of time"-Vox


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    #262
    _blaaz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Your last barely comprehensible post. It’s ok. I got the idea.

    So you are saying you wouldn’t condemn right wing violence?

    I wouldnt condemn it tbh....but nor would i condone it

    But if someone meets violence/provocation with violence neither would i condemn that....(but if in proportion could condone it)


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    #263
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,541 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    You really have to wonder when even CNN is against it, where do these people think the political centre is if they see this as just another "punched Nazi", "bad actor", or whatever other kind of nonsense.


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    #264
    klaaaz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Kimsang wrote: »
    The only thing this article proves is the extreme reaction you get when the left start playing identity politics. Identity politics should be shunned and denigrated in all of its forms.

    Wha and what?

    Have you told black people and lgbt people amongst others that it's their fault for existing for the violence at the hands of the far right?


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    #265
    Venom
    Registered Users Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Can you rephrase that?

    A journalist is someone who gets paid for journalism. Or even does it for free. Generally an employee but not always.

    You guys concentrate on the weirdest things.

    How hard is it to condemn this though? At least one well regarded boards left winger has done so.

    Are the other side worse. Probably. Definitely. Irrelevant.


    Well, the Antifa defenders can't use the "self-defence" line they like to trot out like they normally do when these masked thugs beat the crap out of some poor soul, due to the video evidence of Ngo being attacked from behind by half a dozen yobs.



    So instead they try banging the "he's not a journalist" drum to try and deflect from the fact he was beaten.


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    #266
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlBv9rFVuGI

    Nov. 2018
    "Why don't you get the **** out of here Andy. I don't feel safe with you around.
    You should be ashamed of yourself."
    Says the woman surrounding the Asian journalist with her band of Antifa thugs.

    Antifa had gathered to oppose the #HimToo event, which sought to bring awareness to men who had been falsely accused of sex crimes.


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    #267
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Kimsang wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlBv9rFVuGI

    Nov. 2018

    Says the woman surrounding the Asian journalist with her band of Antifa thugs.

    Antifa had gathered to oppose the #HimToo event, which sought to bring awareness to men who had been falsely accused of sex crimes.

    Got a timestamp for the bit where he gets beaten up?
    can't watch all that.


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    #268
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    20Cent wrote: »
    Got a timestamp for the bit where he gets beaten up?
    can't watch all that.
    He doesn't get beaten up.
    I wanted to show the intimidation tactics and failure to engage in actual debate of the counter-protestors in Portland, in what I see as a legitimate discussion to have.

    Is this event littered with nazis?


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    #269
    Venom
    Registered Users Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Kimsang wrote: »
    Is this event littered with nazis?


    Well seeing as these clown world degenerates consider everyone who doesn't 100% fall in line and goose step with them on everything they believe Nazi's, then yeah every rally is full of Nazi's.


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    #270
    klaaaz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    I see thousands of counter demonstrators of all races in the video telling the extreme right wingers to go home. And ya man conservative Andy is again confronting the counter demo like a provocateur playing the victim card just like the recent demo, the demonstrators even knew him by first name, he's hardly an angel!


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    #271
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Kimsang wrote: »
    He doesn't get beaten up.
    I wanted to show the intimidation tactics and failure to engage in actual debate of the counter-protestors in Portland, in what I see as a legitimate discussion to have.

    Is this event littered with nazis?

    Antifa randomly beat up "journalists" but not this time. Maybe he did something since then to piss people off.

    Patriot prayer organised it. It's well established they are a far right white nationalist and fascists.


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