Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

Ironicname

20Cent wrote:

Where are these mass shooters getting the idea that they are being invaded by foreigners?

That's mad. Is there anything bad that happens that you don't try to pin on trump? I stubbed my toe this morning. Must have been that Cheeto coloured fecker that made it happen.

p1akuw47h5r3it

DanDan6592 wrote: »

Except he was a member of the left, a registered Democrat supposedly.

klaaaz wrote: »

Oh DanDan, you went very quiet with your allegation of the motives of the shooter earlier without any proof, welcome back.

Proof of your latest allegation?

klaaaz wrote: »

Says who? Nothing as of writing on CNN, NBC or CBS about your "news".

snowblind wrote: »

White supremacist mass shooting yesterday in Texas targeting latin americans: 20 dead
Mass shooting today: we'll see if it fits the pattern. There is only one pattern though
Antifa: still no threat to life

A leftist, as I said multiple times yesterday. So clearly this shooting didn't "fit the pattern". Here's your beloved CNN Klaaaz.

A Twitter account that appears to belong to Dayton mass shooter Connor Betts retweeted extreme left-wing and anti-police posts, as well as tweets supporting Antifa, or anti-fascist, protesters.

he user's Twitter bio reads: "he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / I'm going to hell and I'm not coming back."

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

Billy Mays

None of that explains the motives for the shooting.


Again, he shot dead his own sister and 6 black people. This doesn't sound like the actions of someone who carried out the shooting due to his leftist political beliefs.

Midlife

DanDan6592 wrote: »

A leftist, as I said multiple times yesterday. So clearly this shooting didn't "fit the pattern". Here's your beloved CNN Klaaaz.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

Can't you equally say it was anime that did it? Given that it fits a socialist agenda about as much as it fits an anime one.

20Cent

The difference in blatently obvious.
Trump, the republicans and white supremacists have been saying Mexican's are a problem and dehumanizing them for years. Guy listens to this and decides to do something about it killing 20 people in El Paso. His motivation was based on things they advocate.

The Dayton killer shot his sister and people in a bar. Antifa don't advocate for sister killing. His crime bares no relation to views held bu the left.

p1akuw47h5r3it

Billy Mays wrote: »

None of that explains the motives for the shooting.


Again, he shot dead his own sister and 6 black people. This doesn't sound like the actions of someone who carried out the shooting due to his leftist political beliefs.

Midlife wrote: »

Can't you equally say it was anime that did it? Given that it fits a socialist agenda about as much as it fits an anime one.

20Cent wrote: »

The difference in blatently obvious.
Trump, the republicans and white supremacists have been saying Mexican's are a problem and dehumanizing them for years. Guy listens to this and decides to do something about it killing 20 people in El Paso. His motivation was based on things they advocate.

The Dayton killer shot his sister and people in a bar. Antifa don't advocate for sister killing. His crime bares no relation to views held bu the left.

You are all missing the point. Look at the post my last post quoted. It was said that this shooting was "fitting a certain pattern" i.e. that of a right-wing right nationalist. I've spent the last 24 hours pointing out to Klaaaz that this was not the case, and in his world, only when CNN reported as such would he seemingly accept it. He refuses to believe this as it doesn't fit in with his world-view of left good, right bad.

Hence my post.

klaaaz

Good to see DanDan finally accept the impartiality of CNN over the ultra conservative "news" websites!

Unfortunately you're still desperately trying to pursue your spurious claim despite the shooter killing 6 black people and that he hated women.

Why haven't you claimed metalheads as possible suspects? Perhaps the shooter didn't like the choice of music that the bar played?

ohnonotgmail

DanDan6592 wrote: »

You are all missing the point. Look at the post my last post quoted. It was said that this shooting was "fitting a certain pattern" i.e. that of a right-wing right nationalist. I've spent the last 24 hours pointing out to Klaaaz that this was not the case, and in his world, only when CNN reported as such would he seemingly accept it. He refuses to believe this as it doesn't fit in with his world-view of left good, right bad.

Hence my post.

it does fit the pattern of of a right wing nationalist. As it turns out he wasn't but his ideology was not behind the killings.

SexBobomb

No true Scotsman

p1akuw47h5r3it

klaaaz wrote: »

Good to see DanDan finally accept the impartiality of CNN over the ultra conservative "news" websites!

Where did I do that?

klaaaz wrote: »

Unfortunately you're still desperately trying to pursue your spurious claim despite the shooter killing 6 black people and that he hated women.

Why haven't you claimed metalheads as possible suspects? Perhaps the shooter didn't like the choice of music that the bar played?

What that he was left-wing, and not a far-white white supremacist ? Think thats more than been proven. Bury your hand in the stand, as we all know you will, we're all used to it round here. And go on, you can have the last word Good luck.

ohnonotgmail

DanDan6592 wrote: »

Where did I do that?



What that he was left-wing, and not a far-white white supremacist ? Think thats more than been proven. Bury your hand in the stand, as we all know you will, we're all used to it round here. And go on, you can have the last word Good luck.

he was a left-wing supporter who committed a mass killing. he did not commit a mass killing because he was left wing. you need to appreciate the difference.

Harvey Weinstein

What that he was left-wing, and not a far-white white supremacist ? Think thats more than been proven. Bury your hand in the stand, as we all know you will, we're all used to it round here. And go on, you can have the last word Good luck.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately some posters here show all the symptoms of demoralised people. Facts are irrelevant and cannot penetrate.
"exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I showered him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures - he will refuse to believe it"

p1akuw47h5r3it

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he was a left-wing supporter who committed a mass killing. he did not commit a mass killing because he was left wing. you need to appreciate the difference.

For the final time...

You need to appreciate how this started. Again it began with this post:

snowblind wrote: »

White supremacist mass shooting yesterday in Texas targeting latin americans: 20 dead
Mass shooting today: we'll see if it fits the pattern. There is only one pattern though
Antifa: still no threat to life

"We'll see if it fits the pattern, there is only one pattern though"

That pattern ofcourse being that of white-nationalists committing these mass shootings. Only ofcourse this shooting didn't "fit the pattern". The guy was a registered democrat, who supported anti-fa, hardly the politics of a far-right white nationalists. He was as you have said yourself "left-wing", or put another way, not a far-right white nationalist.

20Cent

Dayton guy kept a list of people he wanted to rape and kill. Shouldn't have been allowed own a gun anyway.

James Brown

Sides is it? I thought we were all on board that violence isn't the way to go? If someone kills they can't associate themselves, nor be associated to a group or belief system that claims to be peaceful or just.

Danzy

ANTIFA stop notorious anti Semite MP, Chris Williamson from speaking at a hotel in Brighton.

Not that I support that.

James Brown

Danzy wrote: »

ANTIFA stop notorious anti Semite MP, Chris Williamson from speaking at a hotel in Brighton.

Not that I support that.

It's the antifa bashing thread, not the Corbyn bashing thread :rolleyes:

Noam Chomsky was reported in The Canary to have expressed the view that there was "nothing even remotely antisemitic" in Williamson's comments at Sheffield

snowblind

DanDan6592 wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/14/man-dies-as-police-shootout-follows-firebomb-attack-on-immigration-centre

https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-man-killed-at-ice-detention-center-manifesto



Try again.

Nope, I said 'still no casualties'. Still no casualties. No casualty. You seem to be really bad at this.

Nazi murders every week, you claim ANTIFA is worse but can't find even one example. It seems like....you really like nazis....i guess.

snowblind

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Is this them?

The funniest thing about you nu fascists / alt right / nazi nerds is that you are afraid of soy. You are like a monty python sketch

Funny that you glorify fascist violence like that when crying tears about antifa. Shows who you love. Nazis.

Overheal

lawlolawl wrote: »

Restricting things like bump stocks and larger magazines won't make any difference because they can be 3D printed at home now.

If someone really wants them, they can get them.

This is pretending in any way that most 3D prints would survive a full clip before becoming nonfunctional.

snowblind

Please everyone note here how the antifa opposers here are totally 100% cool with Nazis killing minorities. They have not condemned them at all, even recognized them, and never will. They are Steve Bannons snowflakes and stuck under fascists boots with their tongue out. Imagine not being able to think without deferring to genocide promoters and "IQ 34" Trump. I guess some people are too dumb to be able to make informed opinions.

notobtuse

snowblind wrote: »

Please everyone note here how the antifa opposers here are totally 100% cool with Nazis killing minorities. They have not condemned them at all, even recognized them, and never will. They are Steve Bannons snowflakes and stuck under fascists boots with their tongue out. Imagine not being able to think without deferring to genocide promoters and "IQ 34" Trump. I guess some people are too dumb to be able to make informed opinions.

Whatever you've been smoking... I WANT SOME! :rolleyes:

snowblind

DanDan6592 wrote: »

Well tell us then, do you support them or do you not?

Saying I support the non-violent elements of Anti-fa would be like someone saying I support the non-bigoted elements of the Proud Boys.

Nope.

Proud Boys want a fascist society, they want to eliminate non whites.

Antifa want minorities and majorities to live in peace together.

You clearly pretend to be in the middle but constantly defer to proud boy types. Typical deflection trying to draw attention away from nazis mass murdering people weekly, a thing Antifa has not done at all. It almost sounds like you have a reason to try to make Nazis seem like not that big of a deal.....

snowblind

lawlolawl wrote: »

I see St. Barry still won't use the term "Islamic/Muslim terrorism".

Will you use the term "white supremacist terrorism"? Doesn't seem so, even though it is something that happens much more often that what you are weeping about. I wonder why? Seems like you have an agenda of some sort. Something to do with whitewashing nazi murders.....weird

snowblind

notobtuse wrote: »

Whatever you've been smoking... I WANT SOME! :rolleyes:

Another oneliner attack with no commentary at all. Maybe you need to go back to 4chan, that seems to be a better place for trolling.

Danzy

snowblind wrote: »

Please everyone note here how the antifa opposers here are totally 100% cool with Nazis killing minorities. They have not condemned them at all, even recognized them, and never will. They are Steve Bannons snowflakes and stuck under fascists boots with their tongue out. Imagine not being able to think without deferring to genocide promoters and "IQ 34" Trump. I guess some people are too dumb to be able to make informed opinions.

😄

p1akuw47h5r3it

snowblind wrote: »

Nope, I said 'still no casualties'. Still no casualties. No casualty. You seem to be really bad at this.

Nope you said, "still no threat to life". I've quoted what you've said on numerous occasions, but sure I'll do it again.:

snowblind wrote: »

White supremacist mass shooting yesterday in Texas targeting latin americans: 20 dead
Mass shooting today: we'll see if it fits the pattern. There is only one pattern though
Antifa: still no threat to life

This is disproven based of the lad who tried to Bomb an ICE centre, and by what happened to the likes of Andy Ngo. The fact that we've had an Anti-fa supporter murder nearly a dozen people now doesn't quite help the image.

snowblind wrote: »

Nazi murders every week, you claim ANTIFA is worse but can't find even one example. It seems like....you really like nazis....i guess.

Never said Anti-fa are worse, link to were I did. I think both are a pack of bellends. But look, considering you don't even know what you said yourself, how could you even begin to know what I've said.

Ironicname

snowblind wrote:

Please everyone note here how the antifa opposers here are totally 100% cool with Nazis killing minorities. They have not condemned them at all, even recognized them, and never will. They are Steve Bannons snowflakes and stuck under fascists boots with their tongue out. Imagine not being able to think without deferring to genocide promoters and "IQ 34" Trump. I guess some people are too dumb to be able to make informed opinions.

Well that's a silly post.

snowblind wrote:

Proud Boys want a fascist society, they want to eliminate non whites.

The American proud boys (not aware of any over this way) accept people of all nationalities and religions. The guy who founded it is married to a native American and has non white children. You seem to be talking out of your bottom.

snowblind wrote:

Antifa want minorities and majorities to live in peace together.

...as long as everyone agrees to be compliant.

That's a little fascist.

p1akuw47h5r3it

snowblind wrote: »

Nope.

Proud Boys want a fascist society, they want to eliminate non whites.

Antifa want minorities and majorities to live in peace together.

You clearly pretend to be in the middle but constantly defer to proud boy types. Typical deflection trying to draw attention away from nazis mass murdering people weekly, a thing Antifa has not done at all. It almost sounds like you have a reason to try to make Nazis seem like not that big of a deal.....

Constantly? It wasn't even me who brought the Proud Boys up, it was Brian. I may have referred to them what, twice after that?... Constantly :rolleyes:

20Cent

Ted bundy was a republican. Would be silly to claim that's why he killed people. Same with the Dayton shooter.