Tour de France 2019 General Thread

De Bhál

Weepsie wrote: »

Unless you're Conor Dunne. Twould be like me on a child's bike if he had to take a team mates

"have you got your allen key set on you there Conor, and we'll get about dropping this saddle a bit"

Didn't a rider take a fans bike years ago to get down a mountain? maybe not...

edit...maybe so
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/fan-gives-tyler-farrar-shoes-and-bike-after-crash-to-save-his-tour-down-under-207960


and an even more extreme example
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/pro-rider-climbs-summit-finish-on-fans-1980s-granny-bike-after-crash/

Tim76

De Bhál wrote: »

Didn't a rider take a fans bike years ago to get down a mountain? maybe not...

Did Froome take the runners off a jogger and start running up a mountain? :P

What happened to Luis Leon? Non starter today, was he involved in the crash yesterday?

MPFGLB

Deleted User wrote: »

What happened to Luis Leon? Non starter today, was he involved in the crash yesterday?

He hurt his back at the very beginning of the race

Inquitus

Ineos losing most of the team there no?

fryup

Luke Rowe, was thrown out of the race, together with his Jumbo Visma counterpart Tony Martin, after the pair had an altercation towards the end of stage 17.

a bit OTT?

jimbobaloobob

fryup wrote: »

a bit OTT?

Not really the rules are clear to the riders. Apparently there's more than what the live feed picked up. Get the impression that Luke Rowe isn't the most popular rider in the peloton

fryup

bit of an @sshole?

CramCycle

They both deserved it, no matter the instigator. One grabbed the other by the neck, the other switched out, on purpose, repeatedly. Christ, any other riders pulled this sh1t at an amateur race and they'd struggle to be let ride again if seen by the Comms. They got off lightly and am shocked everyone else seems to think a fine would have been more appropriate. Both maneuvers, regardless of instigation, could leave half the group in hospital very easily.

martyc5674

CramCycle wrote: »

Both maneuvers, regardless of instigation, could leave half the group in hospital very easily.

Exactly my thoughts... could have caused carnage.

MPFGLB

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

Not really the rules are clear to the riders. Apparently there's more than what the live feed picked up. Get the impression that Luke Rowe isn't the most popular rider in the peloton

That is what Nicolas Roche told Orla of Eurosport

jimbobaloobob

MPFGLB wrote: »

That is what Nicolas Roche told Orla of Eurosport

Oh right I didn't think anyone would openly say it.

MPFGLB

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

Oh right I didn't think anyone would openly say it.

Oral said to Wiggo yesterday that Nicolas Roche told her Luke Rowe wasn't liked in the peloton ...not sure he meant it to be said live on TV though

jimbobaloobob

MPFGLB wrote: »

Oral said to Wiggo yesterday that Nicolas Roche told her Luke Rowe wasn't liked in the peloton ...not sure he meant it to be said live on TV though

He can pass that off with a "she said that he said" and he won't need body armour next time he rides along side him in the peleton.

Just a note I think all former ras riders are now out of the tour. Postelberger went today and Martin yesterday , is or was there any more than them in this years tour?

MPFGLB

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

He can pass that off with a "she said that he said" and he won't need body armour next time he rides along side him in the peleton.

Just a note I think all former ras riders are now out of the tour. Postelberger went today and Martin yesterday , is or was there any more than them in this years tour?

Did Xandro Merruise ride the RAS ??

jimbobaloobob

MPFGLB wrote: »

Did Xandro Merruise ride the RAS ??

When do you think he might have?

CramCycle

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

When do you think he might have?

I don't think he did, I know he rode for AP-CRC but he didn't come out for the Ras

tuxy

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

When do you think he might have?

He's in this provisional start list for 2015. Did he actually take part though?

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/its-getting-close-now-start-list-for-the-2015-an-post-ras/

Someone's feeling the heat at DQS. Lefevre responds to a tweet about the Alaphillipe/soigneur pushing incident by calling Thijs Zonneveld a loser, half journalist and failed pro.

A bit petty, you'd assume someone in his position has better things to do in the evening these days than responding to inflammatory tweets from journalists.

dastardly00

The driver won't be able to see out the windscreen soon!

Mefistofelino

JA's goatee just reminds me of Blackadder

dastardly00

https://twitter.com/robhatchtv/status/1155009440879448065

neris

dastardly00 wrote: »

The driver won't be able to see out the windscreen soon!

he wouldnt be far out the carpark like that before being pulled over by an eagle eyed gendarme for having his vision obstructed

Acosta

Just saw a video of it snowing heavily at the finish.

Lumen

Acosta wrote: »

Just saw a video of it snowing heavily at the finish.

Here's a webcam from the resort. Looks OK.

https://www.valthorens.com/en/webcam/restaurant-la-maison

fryup

any chance Bernal could be overtaken on the final day?? flat tyre, crash?

tuxy

Crash, yes but unlikely he will be very careful.
Unwritten rule is you don't attack the yellow jersey because of mechanical/flat. Even if someone did attack the stage is so flat(take a look at the profile) he won't have trouble getting back on and that person would just end up looking like a scumbag with nothing to show for it.

Tomorrows stage is all about the sprinters and celebrating another tour rolling into Paris.

fryup

tuxy wrote: »

Unwritten rule is you don't attack the yellow jersey because of mechanical/flat. Even if someone did attack the stage is so flat(take a look at the profile) he won't have trouble getting back on and that person would just end up looking like a scumbag with nothing to show for it.

really

honour amongst cyclists as such?

It's long been a procession stage , and a sprint finish.

I like that in the Giro they seem to alternate between a procession and a TT on the final day.

tuxy

fryup wrote: »

really

honour amongst cyclists as such?

Tradition and logic. If you look at the results from the other flat stages there is no time to be gained, these stages are won and lost by millimetres. There has to be more than one second between groups for time difference to GC if there are no real gaps everyone gets the same time for the stage.
Then if you take into consideration that the profile for tomorrow is even easier than the previous flat stages.
Everyone knows that the final GC stage is really stage 20.
Riders get to ride into Paris tomorrow and celebrate another tour while the sprinters put on a show for the crowd.

Checking the results of some other racing and I see Cavendish was a DNF in an Italian stage race yesterday. Likely out of the time limit on the queen stage can't see any reporting on it in English and from the other stages wasn't exactly competitive or finishing in a position you'd expect if he'd even helped someone else in a sprint.

jimbobaloobob

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Checking the results of some other racing and I see Cavendish was a DNF in an Italian stage race yesterday. Likely out of the time limit on the queen stage can't see any reporting on it in English and from the other stages wasn't exactly competitive or finishing in a position you'd expect if he'd even helped someone else in a sprint.

Was that the same one Conor Dunne was in that had a 20 min hail storm that had the grupetto take cover in bushes and cars. They came back for some of the bikes later. Wouldn't blame him if he DNF there

jimbobaloobob

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

Was that the same one Conor Dunne was in that had a 20 min hail storm that had the grupetto take cover in bushes and cars. They came back for some of the bikes later. Wouldn't blame him if he DNF there

Yikes :eek:

Same race, Dunne is still there as of stage 3 and cav was dnf yesterday stage 2 which given events at the tour yeah can't blame him if he was caught him bad conditions.

jimbobaloobob

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yikes :eek:

Same race, Dunne is still there as of stage 3 and cav was dnf yesterday stage 2 which given events at the tour yeah can't blame him if he was caught him bad conditions.

Check up Conor Dunne's twitter account to see the video of it. Crazy hail stones

Angliru

Eamonnator wrote: »

I'll bet you €20 that Dan finishes in the top 5.
If I win you pay to my charity, if you win I'll pay to your charity.

I've just had two glasses of wine with dinner.

Edit:I've looked at the odds on Paddy Power. Dan is 50/1 to win

Angliru wrote: »

I originally said for him not to podium, but **** it, I'm in. 20 quid it is.

Guess I won this :P

Barnardos Ireland is the charity I pick.

If you name your charity I'll donate €20 to them too, no hard feelings. The Tour was unreal this year besides the ****ty last two days due to the weather. I'm feeling I owe someone something as Tours happen once a decade, almost literally.

Shedite27

tuxy wrote: »

Tradition and logic. If you look at the results from the other flat stages there is no time to be gained, these stages are won and lost by millimetres. There has to be more than one second between groups for time difference to GC if there are no real gaps everyone gets the same time for the stage.

Wait till Ineos are posing for the champagne on bikes photo, then attack. TTT to the end.

Eamonnator

Angliru wrote: »

Guess I won this :P

Barnardos Ireland is the charity I pick.

If you name your charity I'll donate €20 to them too, no hard feelings. The Tour was unreal this year besides the ****ty last two days due to the weather. I'm feeling I owe someone something as Tours happen once a decade, almost literally.

Yes, looks like you did.
I Have, just now, donated €30 to Barnardos Ireland.
If you PM your email, I'll forward the receipt, that I got from them.
My charity is Down Syndrome Ireland. Thank you kindly.
It's seldom, that nobody loses, where betting is concerned.
Pleasure dealing with you.

E.

Angliru

Eamonnator wrote: »

Yes, looks like you did.
I Have, just now, donated €30 to Barnardos Ireland.
If you PM your email, I'll forward the receipt, that I got from them.
My charity is Down Syndrome Ireland. Thank you kindly.
It's seldom, that nobody loses, where betting is concerned.
Pleasure dealing with you.

E.

Fair play. Yera that's grand, you can screenshot the email if you like.

30euro to Down Syndrome Ireland.

Pleasure dealing with you too.

dastardly00

Fair play lads

Eamonnator

Angliru wrote: »

Fair play. Yera that's grand, you can screenshot the email if you like.

30euro to Down Syndrome Ireland.

Pleasure dealing with you too.

Chance would be a fine thing. I don't know how to take screen shots, and if I did, I don't know how to attach them here.

Edit.
I've just gone to school. I hope I've learned something.
Nope didn't work.

griffin100

Nice to see that AG2R have finally got their ass in gear and given Bardet a set of polka dot shorts to match his jersey rather than making him wear the manky brown team shorts.

https://www.vilaweb.cat/noticies/video-volta-penedes-tour-franca-temporal/

That wouldn't happen in France...

Dcully

Love this

https://twitter.com/i/status/1154510127174684672

Dr. Bre

Have the last stage a TT. It would hve made today fascinating

jimbobaloobob

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Have the last stage a TT. It would hve made today fascinating

That has happened many times before in GTs not sure it makes them more fascinating. I think today is a great way to honour the finishers and the ride in around the Louvre Museum was special, today's stage really show cases Paris.

Really good tour, great parcours, glad they werent afraid to mix it up a bit.

tuxy

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Have the last stage a TT. It would hve made today fascinating

It wouldn't be that exciting, that would have made it so only Thomas or Kruijswijk could take the yellow jersey with Thomas being a big favourite.

I'd be in favour in cutting the boring run in and making it a crit race.

c.p.w.g.w

So what's next on the Eurosport coverage regards cycling? Assume the euros and the veulta. Are they covering anything else before that?

c.p.w.g.w

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

So what's next on the Eurosport coverage regards cycling? Assume the euros and the veulta. Are they covering anything else before that?

Stages 4 and 5 of tour de wallonie I think from tuesday. Annoying they didn't cover the whole thing. Though i think it's earlier this year, dylan tunes won it a few years ago. Then San Sabastian at the week end and the London classic and Binck Bank Tour and then Tour of Poland.

Not sure of the dates for the US races but the usually cover Utha.

EDIT: Did you sign up for the player and looking to know what you'll get from it?

Have to say we are invested in some sports here we'd otherwise not have cared about like the Judo GP but the MTB euros were on today too and were worth a look.

tuxy

tuxy wrote: »

It wouldn't be that exciting, that would have made it so only Thomas or Kruijswijk could take the yellow jersey with Thomas being a big favourite.

TT's should be kept as far as possible from the end of the Tour imo.

Throw in a few cobbles stages at the end to liven things up a bit.