General RTE Discussion

Sleeper12

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This is where you were at a disadvantage. In the mid to late 80s in my parents had Sky. Back then sky only had one movie channel. From 1990 onwards I had sky in my own house. I had sky movies & was able to directly compare cinema releases version on sky compared to the censored version on RTE. Films with gratuitous sex, violence & language either didn't make it to RTE or were censored.

I saw Once Upon a time in America in 1884 in the Ambassador cinema in Dublin City. Its the longest movie I've ever seen in a movie theater. About 10 minutes shy of four hours. It had an intermission. It was such a long movie that it flopped at the box office. At 4 hours long inc the intermission they could only show it twice a day compared to other movies of maybe 4 times a day. In the states they butchered it down to a little over 2 hours long

I've never seen it on RTE but I'd be willing to bet if it was shown in the 80s on RTE it would be a few minutes short of the cinema release. I can't imagine watching a movie that long on RTE. Adds would make it a 4 & a half hour or or longer movie. I don't watch Irish TV anymore nor do I have to sit through adds. The directors cut runs 4 hours 11 minutes. This would be torture running over 5 hours on RTE with adds & as they can't start it till 9pm at the earliest it will run to the small hours.

Was the full version as remember recording it across two tapes. It actually flopped because the shorter version was shown in the states.
Mates had Sky movies around the same time, was OK but didn't see the point of the extra money for it as it seemed to repeat stuff a lot.
Still have the same attitude as I just have the free sat channels and Irish channels. Don't like most programming especially reality shows or soaps and the history channel and similar has gone to the dogs.
Anything else I find online or buy on DVD.

Sleeper12

DubInMeath wrote:

Was the full version as remember recording it across two tapes. It actually flopped because the shorter version was shown in the states. Mates had Sky movies around the same time, was OK but didn't see the point of the extra money for it as it seemed to repeat stuff a lot. Still have the same attitude as I just have the free sat channels and Irish channels. Don't like most programming especially reality shows or soaps and the history channel and similar has gone to the dogs. Anything else I find online or buy on DVD.

I could happily drop sky altogether now tbh. Its way overpriced. I don't watch any sports, soaps, reality TV etc. Amazon prime & netflix keep me covered. I have vpn & can get amazon USA or any netflix I want. Every now and then I'll pay for a month or two of HBO or Hulu. I think the last RTE show I watched was Charlie, a few years ago. That's a lie. I watched Mr Mercedes last year and this year on RTE2 but I could have streamed it with a little effort.

Dank Janniels

Whatever bout Rte its not a patch on on Virgin media /Tv3! 3 channels and nothing worth a curse on them!!!

Say Your Number

One of the only things TV3 had that was worth watching was Champions League and they've decided to put that behind a paywall, greedy shower.

JKerova1

RTE have had some great fly-on-the-wall style documentaries in the past. Off the top of my head I can remember great docs like Skippers (about Irish fishermen), Garda Traffic Blues (about the Traffic Corps) and Garda Down Under (about Irish police who moved to Oz during the recession). These were really interesting and entertaining shows that captured what RTE could and should be doing. They haven't had a show like those mentioned in a long time now, RTE's output seems to be all silly game shows and poorly executed (and expensive) dramas like Rebellion. From what I have heard Netflix has had a devestating effect on all terrestrial television stations, not just RTE, so it's hard to see how this trend can be reversed.

FrancieBrady

JKerova1 wrote: »

RTE have had some great fly-on-the-wall style documentaries in the past. Off the top of my head I can remember great docs like Skippers (about Irish fishermen), Garda Traffic Blues (about the Traffic Corps) and Garda Down Under (about Irish police who moved to Oz during the recession). These were really interesting and entertaining shows that captured what RTE could and should be doing. They haven't had a show like those mentioned in a long time now, RTE's output seems to be all silly game shows and poorly executed (and expensive) dramas like Rebellion. From what I have heard Netflix has had a devestating effect on all terrestrial television stations, not just RTE, so it's hard to see how this trend can be reversed.

RTE didn't make Rebellion, nor Love Hate etc. They buy them in to target at specific audiences. Sometimes they will fund stuff or ex-produce because they know it will appeal to some of their audience.

It's like saying RTE are a ****e station because of Eastenders. I hate Eastenders and all the soaps but I understand what a TV station has to do.
Theatres don't do panto runs for the love of them, they do it because it funds the other stuff.

I agree with you on the changed landscape. Difficult times ahead.

splinter65

RTE is, like the Beeb, part of the liberal left which while prevalent in middle class Dublin is not the general tone in the rest of the country.
People don’t like Ray Darcy and Ryan Tubridy and are getting fed up of being told by people living an urban existence in D4 that the Syrian refugees being dropped off in Ballaghardeen to be distributed through rural market towns (far far from Donnybrook) are further evidence of how progressive and evolved we are.

splinter65

splinter65 wrote: »

RTE is, like the Beeb, part of the liberal left which while prevalent in middle class Dublin is not the general tone in the rest of the country.
People don’t like Ray Darcy and Ryan Tubridy and are getting fed up of being told by people living an urban existence in D4 that the Syrian refugees being dropped off in Ballaghardeen to be distributed through rural market towns (far far from Donnybrook) are further evidence of how progressive and evolved we are.

Yeah its only the liberal left dubs who love the GAA coverage etc, if anything else you're post makes it sound like all culchies are as backwards as some would believe.

Keatsian

FrancieBrady wrote: »

RTE didn't make Rebellion, nor Love Hate etc. They buy them in to target at specific audiences. Sometimes they will fund stuff or ex-produce because they know it will appeal to some of their audience.

It's like saying RTE are a ****e station because of Eastenders.

RTE didn't "buy them in." It commissioned Love/Hate, which was produced by Octagon Films, and produced Rebellion itself. It's nothing like buying the rights to broadcast a program made and originally broadcast by the BBC or some other network.

chalkitdown1

splinter65 wrote: »

RTE is, like the Beeb, part of the liberal left which while prevalent in middle class Dublin is not the general tone in the rest of the country.
People don’t like Ray Darcy and Ryan Tubridy and are getting fed up of being told by people living an urban existence in D4 that the Syrian refugees being dropped off in Ballaghardeen to be distributed through rural market towns (far far from Donnybrook) are further evidence of how progressive and evolved we are.

Amazing how this post started with RTE and ended up an anti-immigration rant. Well done. You've got issues.

FrancieBrady

Keatsian wrote: »

RTE didn't "buy them in." It commissioned Love/Hate, which was produced by Octagon Films, and produced Rebellion itself. It's nothing like buying the rights to broadcast a program made and originally broadcast by the BBC or some other network.

Commissioning is just a fancy word for buying. The producers would have originated the project and sought funding for it (pitched the idea) The money would have come from the BAI (Broadcasting authority) and numerous investors with RTE as executive producers.
The writers were not in house writers etc.

RTE is only one of 5 co-producers of Rebellion and judging from IMDB not the lead producer either.

splinter65

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

Amazing how this post started with RTE and ended up an anti-immigration rant. Well done. You've got issues.

You don’t know what an anti immigration rant is if you think my post was one. Im not anti immigration and even if I was, that doesn’t mean I have “issues”.
Shocking I know but here’s the thing.
People having a different opinion to you doesn’t mean that they have mental health issues.
The fact that you obviously do think that anyone who disagrees with you is a bit mad means that it is yourself who has “issues”.
My post is about RTE and the liberal undertones overtones and whatever tones your having yourself that pervade every minute of non fiction broadcasting and some of the fiction too.
That’s my opinion. I’m entitled to it and your throwing aspersions on my capacity just makes you look like a prat, to be honest.

murpho999

Sleeper12 wrote: »

It never happens on the sky movie channels. Ever. The movie channels had an 8pm watershed as it was subscriber only but sky don't sensor their movie channels.
It was common with RTE though. Not just with swear words but scenes could be cut too.

This is totally untrue.

I remember watching films in full on RTE with swearwords whilst British channels cut them.

You're comparison with Sky is also not right as it's a subscription service.

Either way, always preferred watching movies on RTE due to lack of censorship and less ads.

Keatsian

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Commissioning is just a fancy word for buying. The producers would have originated the project and sought funding for it (pitched the idea) The money would have come from the BAI (Broadcasting authority) and numerous investors with RTE as executive producers.
The writers were not in house writers etc.

RTE is only one of 5 co-producers of Rebellion and judging from IMDB not the lead producer either.

Commissioning is not a “fancy word for buying.” Usually what happens is that RTE releases a spec for the kind of program they’re looking for, and independent production companies make pitches in line with that spec.

There were various production companies involved in Rebellion, but it is very much RTEs programme, the broadcaster’s managing director stating “Quality Irish drama is the cornerstone of RTÉ television and is something the Irish public has come to expect from us. It is important that we continue to bring leading writing, directing, producing and acting talent together to tell great Irish stories and create great Irish drama. ‘Rebellion’ will form an important part of what is a significant investment by RTÉ in engaging the Irish public around 1916 and television drama achieves this engagement like no other medium.’

So you’ll tell us this is just RTE “buying in” a series, right, and it has basically nothing to do with them?

FrancieBrady

splinter65 wrote: »

You don’t know what an anti immigration rant is if you think my post was one. Im not anti immigration and even if I was, that doesn’t mean I have “issues”.
Shocking I know but here’s the thing.
People having a different opinion to you doesn’t mean that they have mental health issues.
The fact that you obviously do think that anyone who disagrees with you is a bit mad means that it is yourself who has “issues”.
My post is about RTE and the liberal undertones overtones and whatever tones your having yourself that pervade every minute of non fiction broadcasting and some of the fiction too.
That’s my opinion. I’m entitled to it and your throwing aspersions on my capacity just makes you look like a prat, to be honest.

Other than an occasional foray to Newstalk, my understanding of the two sides of the immigration debate has been garnered on RTE current affairs programming. And I fully understand and have heard both sides of the debate.

So something is wrong with your theory of 'overtones-undertones'.
I reckon myself it is the inability of either side of the debate to listen properly that is the problem here. If you only want to hear something then that is all you are going to hear.
People claimed the same during the referendum and presidential campaigns, but it was largely the same biased nonsense. Both sides got adequate airtime.

splinter65

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Other than an occasional foray to Newstalk, my understanding of the two sides of the immigration debate has been garnered on RTE current affairs programming. And I fully understand and have heard both sides of the debate.

So something is wrong with your theory of 'overtones-undertones'.
I reckon myself it is the inability of either side of the debate to listen properly that is the problem here. If you only want to hear something then that is all you are going to hear.
People claimed the same during the referendum and presidential campaigns, but it was largely the same biased nonsense. Both sides got adequate airtime.

Nothing is wrong with my theory. You just don’t agree with my theory.
You claim to hear both left wing and right wing opinions on RTE in equal measure and I claim I don’t. You can claim that there’s “something wrong” with my theory if you can back your allegation up with stats or even examples but other then that you don’t get to knock my theory on the head anymore then I get to knock yours.

FrancieBrady

Keatsian wrote: »

Commissioning is not a “fancy word for buying.” Usually what happens is that RTE releases a spec for the kind of program they’re looking for, and independent production companies make pitches in line with that spec.

There were various production companies involved in Rebellion, but it is very much RTEs programme, the broadcaster’s managing director stating “Quality Irish drama is the cornerstone of RTÉ television and is something the Irish public has come to expect from us. It is important that we continue to bring leading writing, directing, producing and acting talent together to tell great Irish stories and create great Irish drama. ‘Rebellion’ will form an important part of what is a significant investment by RTÉ in engaging the Irish public around 1916 and television drama achieves this engagement like no other medium.’

So you’ll tell us this is just RTE “buying in” a series, right, and it has basically nothing to do with them?

They do have input. But it isn't by any stretch of the imagination either a solely RTE programme or an 'in house' production in the way that Strumpet City was an 'in house' production.

FrancieBrady

splinter65 wrote: »

Nothing is wrong with my theory. You just don’t agree with my theory.
You claim to hear both left wing and right wing opinions on RTE in equal measure and I claim I don’t. You can claim that there’s “something wrong” with my theory if you can back your allegation up with stats or even examples but other then that you don’t get to knock my theory on the head anymore then I get to knock yours.

:rolleyes: Your theory knocks mine. How's about you, who first posited a 'theory'...back it up? Then we'll take it from there.

splinter65

FrancieBrady wrote: »

:rolleyes: Your theory knocks mine. How's about you, who first posited a 'theory'...back it up? Then we'll take it from there.

But I didn’t say your theory was wrong Francie, only that I don’t agree with you. So I don’t have to back anything up. Over to you.

FrancieBrady

splinter65 wrote: »

But I didn’t say your theory was wrong Francie, only that I don’t agree with you. So I don’t have to back anything up. Over to you.

The protocol here is that if you make a claim and are asked to back it up that you do so.
You made the original claim, so over to you. What stats have you to show that 'every minute of non fiction and even some fiction' broadcasting is from a liberal left agenda.

'Every minute'? Should be easy to back that claim up...no?

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RTE have over the years given us a whole load of pure junk. That said and done, there is no doubt there is an audience for a lot of it but RTE do not cater much for other audiences. People keep watching things like Dancing With The Stars and the deplorable Operation Transformation and as long as that keeps happening, RTE will only cater for that audience even if 70-80% of the people hate these shows. People watch the chatshows out of tradition even if they do not have a good thing to say about them.

One does not really realise how awful TV can be until one comes across junk by accident. Turning on the TV to get ready to watch a good programme is how I discovered how awful things like Alison Spittle's Culchie Club and the Al Porter Show were. This out and out junk is far from being a one off and there are dozens of stupid so-called comedy on RTE 2 a lot of the time. Mrs Brown's Boys is there to prove RTE 1 comedy is no better.

Other people feel they 'have to' watch TV to get value out of the TV tax. These people tune into the drivel like the chatshows that promote the other drivel like Operation Transformation which they also tune in to to get 'value for money'. TV series like the silly and childish Culchie Club and the dour and oppressive Operation Transformation have more in common than one would think: they are made on a shoestring and all these awful series cost next to nothing to make. Yet, RTE want our money and give us cheaply made drivel. Where does our money go? Well, the answer to that is to the presenters of the cheaply made drivel we are served up.

All this cheaply made TV then can go on for months as we see with this Operation Transformation and Dancing With The Stars. And then, they have these things like The Cutting Edge to allow RTE's favourites to spout their agendas. Vile individuals like Katie Hopkins are often allowed airtime to spout hatred.

Now, all that said and done, none of the other channels are any better. 2 words often come to mind: Big Brother. 2 more words come to mind: Reality Television. Are we living in the post-traditional TV era where watching live TV is no longer what most people want to do? 30 years ago, people watched TV bigtime and the alternative was renting the odd violent film that TV would not show on VHS. People back then were content to watch Gaybo on TV and Rambo on video. There was no streaming and there was no Internet.

RTE seemed better then because it often was the only source. When the latest Bond film or popular TV drama came on, RTE was the first place Irish audiences would see it. The various revolutions in TV eroded that and multi channel, VHS, DVD and streaming all accounted for why today things like TV premiers are no longer as exciting. All that said and done, this does not excuse the drivel RTE make and show, and the obscene salaries of its presenters.

TheBlock

FrancieBrady wrote: »

They do have input. But it isn't by any stretch of the imagination either a solely RTE programme or an 'in house' production in the way that Strumpet City was an 'in house' production.

Love hate was commissioned by RTÉ with RTÉ as the sole broadcaster (It may have sold to other broadcasters after initial TX and RTÉ would be entitled to a share of any profits). It was funded by RTÉ and S481 tax relief with minor funding from BAI. The scripts where commissioned and approved by RTÉ head of Drama Jane Gogan. RTÉ had significant editorial input into the production.

Rebellion was a more complex funding model but again scripts would have to be approved by commissioning broadcasters and editorila input is a given.

There is quite a significant difference between commissioning a programme (you have editorial input) and acquiring a programme (you get what you see).

splinter65

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The protocol here is that if you make a claim and are asked to back it up that you do so.
You made the original claim, so over to you. What stats have you to show that 'every minute of non fiction and even some fiction' broadcasting is from a liberal left agenda.

'Every minute'? Should be easy to back that claim up...no?

In my opinion, from my listening to RTE radio and watching RTE tv I perceive there to be a left wing bias.
Can you refer me to the terms and conditions attached to boards.ie that dictates that every opinion must be backed up?
You can’t because that’s not protocol at all and you know it.
If every opinion on boards had to be backed up it would never get going.
I gave my opinion. Instead of just disagreeing with my opinion and giving your own opinion you couldn’t resist telling me that my opinion was wrong, while failing to tell me why.
If you don’t like my posts then either put me on ignore or report the post you think breaks the rules.
Be careful you don’t get reported for back seat modding.

pixelburp

Give it a rest the two of you.

No, there's no requirement to provide evidence of a position - this is not the Politics forum - but if this is to be a serious discussion about RTÉ and its status as state broadcaster, then it's not asking much to at least give some evidence or instances where they dropped the ball in the eyes of the poster. Specific examples help focus discussion away from being a generic After Hours style whinge-fest; the kneejerk "RTÉ is a load of sh*te" comments don't really add much to the discussion, they've been done to death at this stage a thousand times over.

Funny thing about any state run media outlet though, is that it invariably p*sses off both sides for having a perceived 'bias'. No doubt caused by the presumption that anything government run will have political interference. Same goes for the BBC on the other side of the pond.

I've read just as many complaints about RTÉ's apparent heavy left bias as I have accusations of it being a mouthpiece for right-wing, conservative Ireland. People see what they want to see, and barring any open tabloid outlet such as the Daily Expresses of this world, you can easily find enough evidence to cry 'Agenda!' of any stripe or colour.

And at the end of the day, if you don't like what they're cooking, then don't consume. I don't watch RTÉ because its output is subpar - doubly so since Ryle Nugent oversaw RTÉ Sport becoming a thin shadow of itself - but I find its Radio, and other Arts output makes up for it.

FrancieBrady

TheBlock wrote: »

Love hate was commissioned by RTÉ with RTÉ as the sole broadcaster (It may have sold to other broadcasters after initial TX and RTÉ would be entitled to a share of any profits). It was funded by RTÉ and S481 tax relief with minor funding from BAI. The scripts where commissioned and approved by RTÉ head of Drama Jane Gogan. RTÉ had significant editorial input into the production.

Rebellion was a more complex funding model but again scripts would have to be approved by commissioning broadcasters and editorila input is a given.

There is quite a significant difference between commissioning a programme (you have editorial input) and acquiring a programme (you get what you see).

Yes, I know that.

Love/Hate came about as the result of a 'pitch', one of many pitches made yearly. It was originated outside RTE is my point. And it has only one producer listed in the credits on IMDB - Octagon Films. RTE is named as a distributor.

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The politics of RTE is an interesting question some of you here have raised. I never got this whole left and right thing. What I understand is the majority who want to live in peace and tolerate others are branded liberal left while the right is referred to as a group racist, misogynist, warmongers whose ideal world would Gilead in The Handmaid's Tale or Nazi Germany. The term you hear less of is the liberal right and they exist alongside the illiberal left, another term you hear less of.

Anyway, back to RTE: I get the feeling RTE always are more about pushing people than ideologies. Ideologies of the people they push then become agendas. Some of the agendas on RTE fit into what many incorrectly label the 'liberal left' but what in reality is the views of the majority of people. Wrongs like racism, poor behaviour of governments, misogyny, etc. are all opposed most of the time but on the other hand, the anti-alcohol bias in the RTE media along with having Katie Hopkins on echo more the so-called far right agendas.

What RTE do is use current affairs to make the basis of their chatshows. Look at 2018 and you had the cervical cancer scandal, the housing crisis and direct provision creating the chat for the shows. The media then are shown to be 'caring' when in fact they are talking about things that don't affect their world.

TheBlock

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes, I know that.

Love/Hate came about as the result of a 'pitch', one of many pitches made yearly. It was originated outside RTE is my point. And it has only one producer listed in the credits on IMDB - Octagon Films. RTE is named as a distributor.

Grand so... just clearing up that it was not acquired and was in fact commissioned with Editorial input from RTÉ.

FrancieBrady

The Late Late Show wrote: »

along with having Katie Hopkins on echo

What are you on about??

FrancieBrady

TheBlock wrote: »

Grand so... just clearing up that it was not acquired and was in fact commissioned with Editorial input from RTÉ.

Funny to be having this conversation when the Abbey Theatre are causing controversy embarking down the same (cost saving?) road.
It would be one of the criticisms I have of RTE in it's role as a national broadcaster.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/stage/abbey-theatre-uproar-300-actors-and-directors-complain-to-minister-1.3750135?fbclid=IwAR3kf2kxbdfE-PFxWMUYC90BpqyQrPPo4YceuvvK51qBfk6sJfBKUxdcocg

Arghus

It's not perfect; a lot of its programming is fairly low on inspiration and there's a definite culture of nepotism up there and some of their presenters are on eye-wateringly unjustifiable salaries, but in general I don't think RTE deserves all the flack it gets on here. A state broadcaster has to be a lot to all people, across multiple platforms and that's a tough job that doesn't cost next to nothing. I personally think around 50 cent a day, or whatever it works out as, is okayish value for a pretty good state broadcaster - and not all of it goes straight to RTE either, a proportion goes to independent productions and other commercial operators.

Is it as good as the likes of the BBC? Nowhere near, but it's a far smaller organisation so you can't really compare the two. There's loads of things that could be done to improve the organisation but let's not be too hyperbolic about it - I think on balance it delivers fair enough value. People are entitled to complain, but a lot of the complaints you read online are fairly knee-jerk unthinking stuff. I can understand why people get annoyed reading them.

Though I would say they should have Ray D'arcy peeling spuds in the canteen or something rather than presenting a TV show - the man is incompetent and has the natural warmth and charisma of a wooden spoon.

TheBlock

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Funny to be having this conversation when the Abbey Theatre are causing controversy embarking down the same (cost saving?) road.
It would be one of the criticisms I have of RTE in it's role as a national broadcaster.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/stage/abbey-theatre-uproar-300-actors-and-directors-complain-to-minister-1.3750135?fbclid=IwAR3kf2kxbdfE-PFxWMUYC90BpqyQrPPo4YceuvvK51qBfk6sJfBKUxdcocg

RTÉ is statutorily obliged to spend in excess of €40M in the commissioned sector. If anything the argument is for this spend to be increased rather than retained by RTÉ for in house productions.

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bodhrandude wrote: »

Having being living in Ireland proper since 1992 the one thing RTE was great at was covering traditional music, but now this is also disappearing from the schedule these days, TG4 taking the crown now for traditional music coverage.

Up until about 2009/10 RTE had the successful Come West Along the Road which I found fascinating and I always liked Nicholas O'Carolan's intelligent witticisms. But then they stopped broadcasting it and I know for a fact that there is still loads of stuff in the traditional archive that hasn't been covered like BBC Northern Ireland's Session of the Seventies, The Half Door (A UTV traditional music series from the 90s. Numerous Pure Drops with different presenters, Mairead ni Mhaonaigh's High Reel, Banish Misfortune, The Raw Bar and loads of Fleadh Cheoil footage from nearly ever year since the early sixties with different presenters. One of my musician mates mentioned that the new series is still ongoing but is now called Siar an Bother for TG4, but I've not seen any new 'old' stuff as yet.

Another problem with RTE is a lot of their programming is very family-centric, there is no programming really reflecting the younger festival going, gig going demographic apart from Other voices, Music from Da Telly, Electric Picnic feature which was stopped last year. Up until 2009/10 RTE stopped featuring left of the field music programmes such as Under Ether and No Disco, the crunch here was that the very last broadcast of No Disco culminated in the reformation of the much loved Planxty, so why the hell did the station stop this programme when it had the power to do this?

RTE 2 needs to get their younger audience back as an alternative to the reality drivel featured on RTE 1.

The problem with all this is more or less because RTE have decided to only focus on them blasted 'talent shows'. Every musical show or item now is a competition. Look at this latest thing last week on Tubridy: he has boyband singer Mike Denver on announcing another competition to find another boyband singer. I blame Louis Walsh for all this mentality and it is been going on since the 1990s and we are stuck in this rut.

Yurt2

Genuine question: how do people get recruited to RTE? Be it front of camera or production roles?

When I was at college I don't recall seeing an RTE stand at recruitment fairs. Is there an objective test one can take like the civil service exam system? What's the magic formula? They don't seem to go out of their way to recruit the best and brightest from the population (or at least aren't terribly visible about it).

5uspect

https://www.rte.ie/about/en/working-with-rte/2012/0425/318481-vacancies/

walshb

Some of the more serious programmes are excellent.

The reality stuff is D absolute pits. Not sure what is the worst, but DWTS is particularly bad..it’s an abomination...

And I suppose with “talent” like Tubridy and D’Arcy what can we expect?

griffinlee

rtes infatuation with property programs is crazy , no wonder why we are in such a crazy bubble


find me a house
desperate houses
room to improve
home of the year
super homes (other bannon program)
super garden

rte should be factual, rte 2 go back to a younger audience

alan partridge aha

Rte is a disgrace, 6 nations gone, oh but wait we have the womens one. Viewership of a few hundred I'd wager.

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walshb wrote: »

Some of the more serious programmes are excellent.

The reality stuff is D absolute pits. Not sure what is the worst, but DWTS is particularly bad..it’s an abomination...

And I suppose with “talent” like Tubridy and D’Arcy what can we expect?

All the reality stuff is the main problem. I do not know which ones are the very worst but Operation Transformation and all them Louis Walsh competitions stand out for me. The chatshows are just there then to promote these shows and the people in them.

griffinlee wrote: »

rtes infatuation with property programs is crazy , no wonder why we are in such a crazy bubble


find me a house
desperate houses
room to improve
home of the year
super homes (other bannon program)
super garden

rte should be factual, rte 2 go back to a younger audience

These property programmes are boring and overdone. The problem is there is just too much of this stuff on.

lertsnim

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Rte is a disgrace, 6 nations gone, oh but wait we have the womens one. Viewership of a few hundred I'd wager.

And if they outbid TV3 you'd still moan about that.

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walshb wrote: »

Some of the more serious programmes are excellent.?

And some of them frightening:

https://evoke.ie/2019/03/02/life-style/late-late-dearbhail-mcdonald

This upcoming programme seems to be like something Gilead in The Handmaid's Tale would have on a TV station!!

FrancieBrady

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And some of them frightening:

https://evoke.ie/2019/03/02/life-style/late-late-dearbhail-mcdonald

This upcoming programme seems to be like something Gilead in The Handmaid's Tale would have on a TV station!!

'Women should be seen and not heard'? How 1950's of you. :rolleyes:

alan partridge aha

lertsnim wrote: »

And if they outbid TV3 you'd still moan about that.

Hardly, the could dropkick Darcy and Tubs off the tv.

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FrancieBrady wrote: »

'Women should be seen and not heard'? How 1950's of you. :rolleyes:

I am anti-Gilead not pro-Gilead. My views are more Margaret Atwood than Mike Pence.

Nikki Sixx

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/rte-annual-report-4697146-Jun2019/%3famp=1

Poor R.T.E. need more license fee money. Maybe if they made better quality t.v. people would actually watch their stations? I know it’s a chestnut, but cut the wages of your top 10 highest paid presenters. Don’t blame everything on t.v. license dodgers. Take some responsibility yourselves. You sold a load of land in D4 and made millions, there must be a lot of bad decisions made within the organization, that it can’t break even.

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Television has never been worse. Unless you are a sports fanatic or a soap nut, TV is atrocious. A lot of people give out about RTE but all channels are the same. Flicking through the channels most nights, you get either Coronation Street or some other similar British soap or else some sport. As bad as TV can be in the winter, the summer is much worse. With the exception of The Handmaid's Tale, there is nothing I'd be interested in watching at the moment on TV.

Typical fare across all channels on a week night is comprised of the likes of Coronation Street, Masterchef, Rachel Allen, Glor Tire, Opry san Iuir, Love Island and Emmerdale. Then, they make new shows like Incredible Homes and Wingman to suit the cronies RTE idolise rather than the public. A wonderful time to have a TV! But as said, RTE are not the only ones showing and making this sort of drivel.

There has been a massive drop in the numbers of people watching traditional TV channels and there is little wonder with the drivel they are showing. I don't think people will be fighting over the control of the remote control over a choice to see Wingman or The All Ireland Talent Show!!

It is clear this whole TV licence thing needs to be overhauled. The people are paying this and RTE then squander it on over-inflated salaries of their 'stars' and on drivel shows aimed to faciliate these 'stars' (The Frontline made to suit Pat Kenny, Room to Improve to suit Dermot Bannon, Wingman to suit Baz Ashmawy, etc.). People could own a TV, not have a TV aerial or satellite dish and be 100% watching DVDs, Netflix, Hulu, Now TV, etc. and STILL have to pay RTE's tax!! Makes no sense at all.

Buy an Android box..just let it go.. you'll be happier..

gmisk

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Television has never been worse. Unless you are a sports fanatic or a soap nut, TV is atrocious. A lot of people give out about RTE but all channels are the same. Flicking through the channels most nights, you get either Coronation Street or some other similar British soap or else some sport. As bad as TV can be in the winter, the summer is much worse. With the exception of The Handmaid's Tale, there is nothing I'd be interested in watching at the moment on TV.

Typical fare across all channels on a week night is comprised of the likes of Coronation Street, Masterchef, Rachel Allen, Glor Tire, Opry san Iuir, Love Island and Emmerdale. Then, they make new shows like Incredible Homes and Wingman to suit the cronies RTE idolise rather than the public. A wonderful time to have a TV! But as said, RTE are not the only ones showing and making this sort of drivel.

There has been a massive drop in the numbers of people watching traditional TV channels and there is little wonder with the drivel they are showing. I don't think people will be fighting over the control of the remote control over a choice to see Wingman or The All Ireland Talent Show!!

It is clear this whole TV licence thing needs to be overhauled. The people are paying this and RTE then squander it on over-inflated salaries of their 'stars' and on drivel shows aimed to faciliate these 'stars' (The Frontline made to suit Pat Kenny, Room to Improve to suit Dermot Bannon, Wingman to suit Baz Ashmawy, etc.). People could own a TV, not have a TV aerial or satellite dish and be 100% watching DVDs, Netflix, Hulu, Now TV, etc. and STILL have to pay RTE's tax!! Makes no sense at all.

In fairness RE some of those.
The all Ireland talent show was cancelled in 2011.
Room to improve gets massive ratings and is a great watch IMO.

The Irish channels make a reasonable amount of content given the budget they have, the quality does vary wildly.

As the other poster said get an Android streaming box.

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gmisk wrote: »

In fairness RE some of those.
The all Ireland talent show was cancelled in 2011.
Room to improve gets massive ratings and is a great watch IMO.

The Irish channels make a reasonable amount of content given the budget they have, the quality does vary wildly.

As the other poster said get an Android streaming box.

I meant to say Ireland's Got Talent but it is the same thing different name anyway. This was on Sundays to compete with Dancing With The Stars which replaced The Voice of Ireland which replaced The All Ireland Talent Show which replaced You're a Star which replaced Popstars. All the same thing, different names.

I do not understand why some people genuinely like Room To Improve. I cannot take to it at all. But at least it is not Dragon's Den aka Search For A President!

brian_t

This is just a repeat of the "Hate for RTE" thread that you started in January.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109043348

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OmegaGene wrote: »

Get a fire stick or nvidia shield, stick a few apps on it and forget about terrestrial tv like most people did years ago
There’s nothing on so don’t bother checking lol
Turkish netflix is cheap and there are a few things on there worth watching

Have all these but still own a TV set which is new. Am seriously thinking of selling it. If you use an Android box and not a TV, are you exempt from the TV tax licence? I can get the programmes I like such as The Handmaid's Tale or Better Call Saul and avoid paying RTE as well would be great.