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Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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    #3092
    MadYaker
    Registered Users Posts: 12,223 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Forward that to government offices. They could use that as spin in the future .

    I can see it. Something like.

    If the EU collapses Hitler will come back and world war 3 will start.

    Do you think Britain will declare war on the EU after Brexit or vice versa?

    So you don't think that's a legitimate concern at all? Why not? The EU has resulted in the longest stretch of peace time on our continent. Do you think that's a coincidence? Look at the people in charge in the UK right now, they are all either insane or incompetent.


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    #3093
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    declanflynn wrote: »
    He should definitely consider going somewhere

    Expect a substantial rise in your living costs and possibly an increase in your income tax in 2020s budget. A blind man can see this coming.

    Throw in some carbon tax increases on top

    You might be looking for somewhere else yourself.
    I think I can handle an extra €10 a week in tax if it happens


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    #3094
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Says the poster wishing for all this and much worse, but who doesn't want to pay taxes. :rolleyes:

    Yes exactly. I won't be here. Who would want to be here when the shït hits the fan.
    Years of government pïssing money away will come back to bite everyone in the backside.

    The hard working obedient people of Ireland screwed yet again but when the election comes around there is no viable alternative. Basket case
    Aah we will miss you


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    #3095
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    Our pals here seem to want this. No further comment required


    https://twitter.com/juliadavisnews/status/1153802292908322817?s=21


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    #3096
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 82,869 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    BBC Question Time coming back a week early such is the fun of Brexit...

    https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1167484640413831170


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    #3097
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,675 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    OK guys - please leave the modding to the mods. We may not get to things immediately, but one of us will get to reports at some stage


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    #3098
    InTheShadows
    Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Can I have your dealers number please?

    I don't take drugs and view anyone who does as scum.

    Carry on.


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    #3099
    InTheShadows
    Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    janfebmar wrote: »
    The EU is going to shaft us the same as they did in the bank bailout. Wait and see.

    Saying it for months but I'm afraid the EU will do what serves their own financial interests first and could care less about Ireland. Massive rude awakening incoming for many.


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    #3100
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    InTheShadows wrote: »
    Saying it for months but I'm afraid the EU will do what serves their own financial interests first and could care less about Ireland. Massive rude awakening incoming for many.

    Prepare to be slated for saying that.

    5 or 6 posters at least


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    #3101
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 82,869 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    InTheShadows wrote: »
    I don't take drugs and view anyone who does as scum.

    Carry on.


    What if they grew these drugs in their back garden and didn't sell them to anyone?


    Would you view a GP prescribing opioid based drugs and getting bungs for free holidays and golf trips from the pharmaceutical company they are linked to as being a good mix for society?


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    #3102
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    InTheShadows wrote: »
    I don't take drugs and view anyone who does as scum.

    Carry on.

    Any drugs in particular or just the illegal ones?


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    #3103
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,249 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    InTheShadows wrote: »
    Saying it for months but I'm afraid the EU will do what serves their own financial interests first and could care less about Ireland. Massive rude awakening incoming for many.

    Ireland is the EU. If we have to do what is in our own interests, it will be done. And if you are living here it will cost you too.

    Think about who caused it.


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    #3104
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Ireland is the EU. If we have to do what is in our own interests, it will be done.

    We are only 1% of the EU, and we will have to do what's in the EUs interest. Same as what happened after the bust when we had to take on so much European bank debt.
    We now have homelessness, a massive accommodation problem, one of the highest debts per capita in the world etc.


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    #3105
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    janfebmar wrote: »
    The EU is going to shaft us the same as they did in the bank bailout. Wait and see.

    You do know a lot of that unwound quite quickly as we showed we could behave ourselves unlike the Greeks who just played silly buggers.


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    #3106
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    janfebmar wrote: »
    We are only 1% of the EU, and we will have to do what's in the EUs interest. Same as what happened after the bust when we had to take on so much European bank debt.
    We now have homelessness, a massive accommodation problem, one of the highest debts per capita in the world etc.
    Hang on, you forgot to mention Iceland in your nonsense there!


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    #3107
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    InTheShadows wrote: »
    I don't take drugs and view anyone who does as scum.

    Carry on.

    Drugs are for mugs.


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    #3108
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    is_that_so wrote: »
    You do know a lot of that unwound quite quickly as we showed we could behave ourselves unlike the Greeks who just played silly buggers.

    Behave ourselves by increasing our national debt from 50 billion to 200 billion ? Wait until they put up interest rates again
    Which they will, at a time to suit themselves.


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    #3109
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    InTheShadows wrote: »
    Saying it for months but I'm afraid the EU will do what serves their own financial interests first and could care less about Ireland. Massive rude awakening incoming for many.
    Saying it doesn't make it true. It's the Euro they protect and the EU tends to prefer the status quo as long as no rules are broken. You keep making these statements and offer no evidence for it.


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    #3110
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 82,869 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    janfebmar wrote: »
    Behave ourselves by increasing our national debt from 50 billion to 200 billion ? Wait until they put up interest rates again
    Which they will, at a time to suit themselves.


    There's talk of them raising the state pension too, one of the most generous on the face of the EU, nearly double what hard working UK people get. Grey vote is clearly big at the expense of the rest of us.


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    #3111
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Is there a website that publishes the results of decisions made by the EU.

    Different laws and rules that they make. That kind of thing. Rules they make that all countries have to follow. Or is it all done behind closed doors


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    #3112
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    janfebmar wrote: »
    Behave ourselves by increasing our national debt from 50 billion to 200 billion ? Wait until they put up interest rates again
    Which they will, at a time to suit themselves.
    That wasn't from banking, that was for day to day funding. They don't just suit themselves. Interest rate changes are well flagged. 2020 may see a rise but it could well be 2021 now.


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    #3113
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,249 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    is_that_so wrote: »
    You do know a lot of that unwound quite quickly as we showed we could behave ourselves unlike the Greeks who just played silly buggers.

    There are posters all over this site who will focus on the bad and refuse to see the bigger picture of membership. Some of them do it because it galls them to see the UK criticised by the ungrateful Paddies.


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    #3114
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Is there a website that publishes the results of decisions made by the EU.

    Different laws and rules that they make. That kind of thing. Rules they make that all countries have to follow. Or is it all done behind closed doors
    Not sure what you are looking for. This is the Commission website.
    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/index_en
    Legal rulings would be from the ECJ


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    #3115
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    InTheShadows wrote: »
    Saying it for months but I'm afraid the EU will do what serves their own financial interests first and could care less about Ireland. Massive rude awakening incoming for many.

    The EU/Ireland is steadfast on the Backstop and has been since it was negotiated into the Withdrawal Agreement. We have that evidence to date and all you, and the doomsayers, have is a prediction of betrayal - that's literally all you have.

    You people are the ones who are almost certainly in for a rude awakening.


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    #3116
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not sure what you are looking for. This is the Commission website.
    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/index_en
    Legal rulings would be from the ECJ

    The laws that are dreamt up in Brussels which each member must abide by and who voted for them.

    Or is it behind closed doors . Not for the common person to see


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    #3117
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    is_that_so wrote: »
    . Interest rate changes are well flagged. 2020 may see a rise but it could well be 2021 now.

    The germans set the interest rates to suit themselves, we are insignificant. During the boom they left the interest rates too low, because Gernany needed that, but it just put fuel on property lending here. Then in 06 , 07, 08 they raised interest rates a lot, crippling our economy when we needed high interest rates least. Do you know what effect even just a 2% rise will have on our economy now?


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    #3118
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,249 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    The EU/Ireland is steadfast on the Backstop and has been since it was negotiated into the Withdrawal Agreement. We have that evidence to date and all you, and the doomsayers, have is a prediction of betrayal - that's literally all you have.

    You people are the ones who are almost certainly the ones who are in for a rude awakening.

    Let's throw our lot in with Boris who is turning into a dictator by the day. They are going to waste another week trying to get basic democracy working in the UK.

    Rogue nation.


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    #3119
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Let's throw our lot in with Boris who is turning into a dictator by the day. They are going to waste another week trying to get basic democracy working in the UK.

    Rogue nation.

    I must have missed the violent coup and jailing of opposition party members


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    #3120
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    janfebmar wrote: »
    The germans set the interest rates to suit themselves, we are insignificant. During the boom they left the interest rates too low, because Gernany needed that, but it just put fuel on property lending here. Then in 06 , 07, 08 they raised interest rates a lot, crippling our economy when we needed high interest rates least. Do you know what effect even just a 2% rise will have on our economy now?

    The sad reality is that interest rates in the Eurozone will stay low for years and years to come.

    How deep in to negative rates is the only question.

    The damage and effects of this low interest rates will take years to straighten out.


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    #3121
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    The laws that are dreamt up in Brussels which each member must abide by and who voted for them.

    Or is it behind closed doors . Not for the common person to see
    The Commission makes proposals and they have to go through the EU parliament which passes them. That part is transparent enough. Then you have the Council of Ministers who represent individual governments. They are generally involved in EU wide policies. Fishing, CAP and the EU budget are examples where they need to agree and vote. Mercosur is another one.


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