Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

Bannasidhe

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I didn't think it was that bad! Interesting insight into Irish history!

I have to admit I like Peig.
Thought it was funny.

Blueshoe

I'm trying to reply to the poster who put up the tweet.
404 error coming up.

Anyway, what is BBC Qt? Is it question time?

Hard to believe that stat. I was watching some BBC politics program this morning and they had that Owen Jones lad on it giving out stink.

Qt must be something different.

Edit: one Google search and there are people saying it's a remain bias programme. Lol.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/04/10/its-official-question-time-is-a-remainer-stronghold/


"The results for 2017 are striking: the Question Time panel featured 128 Remainers and 67 Leavers. This is a big imbalance compared to the make-up of the nation, which voted 52 to 48 per cent in favour to Leave. Only two of that year’s 39 episodes featured more Leavers than Remainers. Two episodes featured no Leavers at all."



"In 2018, the imbalance was worse. There were 131 Remainers and just 64 Leavers. Only one episode in 2018 featured a majority of Leavers on the panel. One episode featured no Leavers at all. The number of episodes with only one Leaver also increased compared to 2017.

Between 2017 and 2019, Question Time has featured 303 Remainers and 152 Leavers, a bias of almost exactly two to one."

Stop moaning ffs

Blueshoe wrote: »

I'm trying to reply to the poster who put up the tweet.
404 error coming up.

Anyway, what is BBC Qt? Is it question time?

Hard to believe that stat. I was watching some BBC politics program this morning and they had that Owen Jones lad on it giving out stink.

Qt must be something different.

Edit: one Google search and there are people saying it's a remain bias programme. Lol.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/04/10/its-official-question-time-is-a-remainer-stronghold/


"The results for 2017 are striking: the Question Time panel featured 128 Remainers and 67 Leavers. This is a big imbalance compared to the make-up of the nation, which voted 52 to 48 per cent in favour to Leave. Only two of that year’s 39 episodes featured more Leavers than Remainers. Two episodes featured no Leavers at all."



"In 2018, the imbalance was worse. There were 131 Remainers and just 64 Leavers. Only one episode in 2018 featured a majority of Leavers on the panel. One episode featured no Leavers at all. The number of episodes with only one Leaver also increased compared to 2017.

Between 2017 and 2019, Question Time has featured 303 Remainers and 152 Leavers, a bias of almost exactly two to one."

That’s woefully untrue.

But the beeb are being loudly accused of biase by both sides so in truth they probably aren’t.

Stop moaning ffs

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

That’s woefully untrue.

But the beeb are being loudly accused of biase by both sides so in truth they probably aren’t.

That has been the case for every single political discussion for as long as I can remember.

VinLieger

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

That’s woefully untrue.

But the beeb are being loudly accused of biase by both sides so in truth they probably aren’t.

Indeed it really depends on the show your watching tbh, i was simply pointing out that BBC being accused of bias in one direction is ridiculous, and thought the claim that farage is never on it was hilarious.

ohnonotgmail

Blueshoe wrote: »

I'm trying to reply to the poster who put up the tweet.
404 error coming up.

Anyway, what is BBC Qt? Is it question time?

Hard to believe that stat. I was watching some BBC politics program this morning and they had that Owen Jones lad on it giving out stink.

Qt must be something different.

Edit: one Google search and there are people saying it's a remain bias programme. Lol.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/04/10/its-official-question-time-is-a-remainer-stronghold/


"The results for 2017 are striking: the Question Time panel featured 128 Remainers and 67 Leavers. This is a big imbalance compared to the make-up of the nation, which voted 52 to 48 per cent in favour to Leave. Only two of that year’s 39 episodes featured more Leavers than Remainers. Two episodes featured no Leavers at all."



"In 2018, the imbalance was worse. There were 131 Remainers and just 64 Leavers. Only one episode in 2018 featured a majority of Leavers on the panel. One episode featured no Leavers at all. The number of episodes with only one Leaver also increased compared to 2017.

Between 2017 and 2019, Question Time has featured 303 Remainers and 152 Leavers, a bias of almost exactly two to one."

Farage has been on QT more times than anybody else. anybody.

VinLieger

Blueshoe wrote: »

I'm trying to reply to the poster who put up the tweet.
404 error coming up.

Anyway, what is BBC Qt? Is it question time?

Hard to believe that stat. I was watching some BBC politics program this morning and they had that Owen Jones lad on it giving out stink.

Qt must be something different.

Edit: one Google search and there are people saying it's a remain bias programme. Lol.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/04/10/its-official-question-time-is-a-remainer-stronghold/


"The results for 2017 are striking: the Question Time panel featured 128 Remainers and 67 Leavers. This is a big imbalance compared to the make-up of the nation, which voted 52 to 48 per cent in favour to Leave. Only two of that year’s 39 episodes featured more Leavers than Remainers. Two episodes featured no Leavers at all."



"In 2018, the imbalance was worse. There were 131 Remainers and just 64 Leavers. Only one episode in 2018 featured a majority of Leavers on the panel. One episode featured no Leavers at all. The number of episodes with only one Leaver also increased compared to 2017.

Between 2017 and 2019, Question Time has featured 303 Remainers and 152 Leavers, a bias of almost exactly two to one."

LOL spiked online is owned by the Koch foundation, not even gonna click the link in case i accidentally give them ad revenue

Stop moaning ffs

Is it really???

You need better sources blueshoe

Blueshoe

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Is it really???

You need better sources blueshoe

I clicked the first one I saw. Hard to know what's what.
George Soros gave a fortune to best for Britain. A stop brexit group.
There is always someone in the background it seems.

Il try again

Blueshoe

https://iea.org.uk/media/iea-analysis-shows-systemic-bias-against-leave-supporters-on-flagship-bbc-political-programmes/

What about these chaps. Who owns this crowd

Kidchameleon

The scare mongering is absolutely unreal, cop on to yourselves! Look, this is what is going to happen. The UK will leave at the end of October. There will be some BS in the news for a few weeks about food/medicine shortages, traffic jams etc. Trade deals will be negotiated and the UK will be fine. End of. They are leaving the EU not the planet.

gmisk

Blueshoe wrote: »

https://iea.org.uk/media/iea-analysis-shows-systemic-bias-against-leave-supporters-on-flagship-bbc-political-programmes/

What about these chaps. Who owns this crowd

Errr the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) is a London-based, influential, right-wing think tank....so pretty much the definition of biased.

ohnonotgmail

Blueshoe wrote: »

https://iea.org.uk/media/iea-analysis-shows-systemic-bias-against-leave-supporters-on-flagship-bbc-political-programmes/

What about these chaps. Who owns this crowd

yeah, a fierce unbiased lot.

David Davis, Steve Baker and Lord Callanan, ministers at the Department for Exiting the European Union (DExEU) at the time, all recorded meetings with the IEA in the first three months of 2018.[16] The Observer reported on 29 July 2018 that the director of the IEA was secretly recorded in May and June telling an undercover reporter that funders could get to know ministers on first-name terms and that his organisation was in "the Brexit influencing game". While seeking funding, Littlewood said that the IEA allowed donors to affect the "salience" of reports and to shape "substantial content".

ohnonotgmail

Kidchameleon wrote: »

The scare mongering is absolutely unreal, cop on to yourselves! Look, this is what is going to happen. The UK will leave at the end of October. There will be some BS in the news for a few weeks about food/medicine shortages, traffic jams etc. Trade deals will be negotiated and the UK will be fine. End of. They are leaving the EU not the planet.

and how long will it take these trade deals to be negotiated and what happens until they are? If you can answer those questions you know more than the british government.

Blueshoe

Oh. That's all I got. Google let me down

gmisk

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

yeah, a fierce unbiased lot.

Scarily biased despite that very fancy name
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_of_Economic_Affairs

The fact they are registered as a "charity" is also bizarre...then again Iona....

is_that_so

Kidchameleon wrote: »

The scare mongering is absolutely unreal, cop on to yourselves! Look, this is what is going to happen. The UK will leave at the end of October. There will be some BS in the news for a few weeks about food/medicine shortages, traffic jams etc. Trade deals will be negotiated and the UK will be fine. End of. They are leaving the EU not the planet.

It will still take up to two years to uncouple them. Trade deals take a long while. There's plenty to read here on the impacts. There may be better sources but I've chosen it as it is a very compact list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brexit#Impacts

Kermit.de.frog

Statement from Boris Johnson at 6pm - expected to say that if some Tories vote against the government there will be a UK general erection.

Stop moaning ffs

Change the grammar of the WA
Call election
Dump DUP
Border in the sea /NI only backstop
WA sails through parliament
brexit delivered

The end of the beginning. At least.

FunLover18

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Change the grammar of the WA
Call election
Dump DUP
Border in the sea /NI only backstop
WA sails through parliament
brexit delivered

The end of the beginning. At least.

Do you think one party will win the election, it's going to be another hung parliament surely?

Stop moaning ffs

FunLover18 wrote: »

Do you think one party will win the election, it's going to be another hung parliament surely?

Nah it’ll be a coalition most likely. No matter who wins.

FunLover18

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Nah it’ll be a coalition most likely. No matter who wins.

A coalition of who though? Tories and Labour are will never work together and even if they did, they're fundamentally split on what kind of Brexit they want. Whilst the LibDems have declared themselves a remain party.

Stop moaning ffs

FunLover18 wrote: »

A coalition of who though? Tories and Labour are will never work together and even if they did, they're fundamentally split on what kind of Brexit they want. Whilst the LibDems have declared themselves a remain party.

Tories BP DUP. or Labour lib dems SNP on the other side

AllGunsBlazing

FunLover18 wrote: »

A coalition of who though? Tories and Labour are will never work together and even if they did, they're fundamentally split on what kind of Brexit they want. Whilst the LibDems have declared themselves a remain party.

Johnson is counting on pro-Brexit candidates hitting Labour in the north of England.

statesaver

Sounds like there is a huge crowd outside

Kidchameleon

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and how long will it take these trade deals to be negotiated

Not near as long as the scare mongering would have you think

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and what happens until they are?

From the outside observer, it will be pretty much business as usual. There are a tonne of contingency plans drawn up. Is there going to be a famine in the UK because they left a club?

TheValeyard

Well, that was a speech about nothing.

FrancieBrady

More threats and bluster and make Britain great again nonsense.

El_Duderino 09

FunLover18 wrote: »

Do you think one party will win the election, it's going to be another hung parliament surely?

Tory-Brexit party. Brexit party likely to take votes from Torys and labour. So the Brexit party could pick up a few seats in the north east, Sunderland, Gateshead, Co Durham. And then the Torys Get them back in a coalition. If Brexit goes through, the Brexit party gets subsumed Into the Tory party with a foothold in labour strongholds.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

FunLover18 wrote: »

Do you think one party will win the election, it's going to be another hung parliament surely?

Are people disregarding the polls?