Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

04-09-2019 8:10am

janfebmar wrote: »

Think how different things could be if SF did not shun democracy and took their seats in parliament.

This keeps getting trotted out EXCEPT they don't shun democracy, they have a mandate of abstention from their electorate. The nationalists, of NI, only need elect SDLP candidates should they want anything else.

I agree that things would have been so much easier had they been there BUT had they been the party which pushed through a NI only backstop, over the DUP, there would have literally been war.
This needs to come from the London parties (and Scots)

Stop moaning ffs · 04-09-2019 8:15am

My favorite description of Mogg comes from James o Brien.
Calls him a ‘Haunted Pencil’ and a ‘Dickensian cosplay enthusiast’.

Brilliant.

Stevieluvsye · 04-09-2019 8:19am

Deleted User wrote: »

This keeps getting trotted out EXCEPT they don't shun democracy, they have a mandate of abstention from their electorate. The nationalists, of NI, only need elect SDLP candidates should they want anything else.

I agree that things would have been so much easier had they been there BUT had they been the party which pushed through a NI only backstop, over the DUP, there would have literally been war.
This needs to come from the London parties (and Scots)

We know what your mandate would be anyway looking at your previous posts

First Up · 04-09-2019 8:22am

Deleted User wrote:

Entitled arrogant pr1ck

I always suspected he slept in those double breasted suits. They seem very important to him.

Stop moaning ffs · 04-09-2019 8:24am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

We know what your mandate would be anyway looking at your previous posts

SF turning up would be entirely pointless.
No party and no mp would vote alongside them. On any issue but especially not in such an important one as this.

Their presence would be utterly pointless and the British would lose their minds if they did, SFIRA interfering in British democracy.
Even though they have a right to as elected MPs. That would be forgotten in the uproar though.

Stevieluvsye · 04-09-2019 8:27am

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

SF turning up would be entirely pointless.
No party and no mp would vote alongside them. On any issue but especially not in such an important one as this.

Their presence would be utterly pointless and the British would lose their minds if they did, SFIRA interfering in British democracy.
Even though they have a right to as elected MPs. That would be forgotten in the uproar though.

That wasn't my point

Stop moaning ffs · 04-09-2019 8:30am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

That wasn't my point

I know. I was just saying. It’s something the SF haters always seems to be ignorant of when they trot out their ‘sf won’t take Their seats’ nonsense.

Shows an ignorance of the British Parliament too if not a broader ignorance of British politics and history between the islands.

04-09-2019 8:34am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

We know what your mandate would be anyway looking at your previous posts

I'm genuinely curious, what would it be?

Stevieluvsye · 04-09-2019 8:36am

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm genuinely curious, what would it be?

A United Ireland no doubt

Stop moaning ffs · 04-09-2019 8:39am

My eyes

Can’t. Unsee

https://twitter.com/kenobifan1977/status/1169152564551671808?s=21

04-09-2019 9:22am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

A United Ireland no doubt

And what post history would make you think that I am all for that (outside of an aspirational view that long term it could benefit the economy of All Ireland)

The GFA clearly states that it has to be the will of the majority of the population on NI (and personally I think it should be a super majority of 60% to avoid the nonsense we are seeing now)

So based on your analysis of past history, what Political Party would I support?

04-09-2019 9:23am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

That wasn't my point

Well what is your point?

Kidchameleon · 04-09-2019 9:23am

Enough of the Moggy hate, he's a class act

04-09-2019 9:24am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Enough of the Moggy hate, he's a class act

No he is an act of class, and it's inherent entitlement.

seamus · 04-09-2019 9:26am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Enough of the Moggy hate, he's a class act

Moggy is the worst example of humanity. He's trying to push an entire country under the bus in order to make himself wealthier.

He's absolute scum and should be hanging in Trafalgar square, not relaxing in Westminster. He provides nothing of value to this planet and creates only misery and division.

Stevieluvsye · 04-09-2019 9:27am

Deleted User wrote: »

And what post history would make you think that I am all for that (outside of an aspirational view that long term it could benefit the economy of All Ireland)

The GFA clearly states that it has to be the will of the majority of the population on NI (and personally I think it should be a super majority of 60% to avoid the nonsense we are seeing now)

So based on your analysis of past history, what Political Party would I support?

There is a vibe of nastiness from some of your posts on this thread. One about JRM springs to mind.

Political Party i'd say FF or SF

And for a United Ireland............No thanks, we couldn't afford the fcukers anyway

FrancieBrady · 04-09-2019 9:27am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Enough of the Moggy hate, he's a class act

Mogg and Boris were made irrelevant last night and will have the reins taken off them today.

Sleep tight Jacob.

04-09-2019 9:31am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

There is a vibe of nastiness from some of your posts on this thread. One about JRM springs to mind.

Please do provide evidence of this... I'm interested now.
Moggy has showed disdain for his office, the speaker, MPs, and the house (never mind the country!) so I doubt he's worried about a meme

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Political Party i'd say FF or SF

Oh dear god, do go again chum

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

And for a United Ireland............No thanks, we couldn't afford the fcukers anyway

We easily could actually, based on any financial analysis I've seen.
Socially, would it be a good idea? That is where the focus should be, as an IoI economy would be greater that the sum of it's parts.

Stop moaning ffs · 04-09-2019 9:37am

United ireland was spoken about last night in the debacle. I mean debate.
Now this.

https://twitter.com/bethrigby/status/1169165861237723137?s=21

Stevieluvsye · 04-09-2019 9:39am

Deleted User wrote: »

Please do provide evidence of this... I'm interested now.
Moggy has showed disdain for his office, the speaker, MPs, and the house (never mind the country!) so I doubt he's worried about a meme

Oh dear god, do go again chum

We easily could actually, based on any financial analysis I've seen.
Socially, would it be a good idea? That is where the focus should be, as an IoI economy would be greater that the sum of it's parts.

Arrogant entitled pr!ck i think it what what you refferred to him as.

Political Party, i actually couldn't care less

We could afford them? Ye sure. We can't properly finance our own HSE, How do you think we'd manage trying to fund a NHS style system. Norn Iron is a loss maker so i'm happy enough keeping them where they are

FrancieBrady · 04-09-2019 9:39am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

There is a vibe of nastiness from some of your posts on this thread. One about JRM springs to mind.

Political Party i'd say FF or SF

And for a United Ireland............No thanks, we couldn't afford the fcukers anyway

...and there isn't a 'vibe' of nastiness off your last sentence?

It's almost Moggsian in the breath of it's generalisation of real people. Have a 'lie down' there Stevie.

Stevieluvsye · 04-09-2019 9:41am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

...and there isn't a 'vibe' of nastiness off your last sentence?

It's almost Moggsian in the breath of it's generalisation of real people. Have a 'lie down' there Stevie.

Term of endearment...........

First Up · 04-09-2019 9:42am

Deleted User wrote: »

Please do provide evidence of this... I'm interested now.
Moggy has showed disdain for his office, the speaker, MPs, and the house (never mind the country!) so I doubt he's worried about a meme

Oh dear god, do go again chum

We easily could actually, based on any financial analysis I've seen.
Socially, would it be a good idea? That is where the focus should be, as an IoI economy would be greater that the sum of it's parts.

We have enough to do without at the same time trying to bring warring tribes together after centuries of hatred. Let NI reach its own conclusions about where its interests best lie. (I have no idea where that is by the way.) When they've worked that out among themselves they can let the rest of us know.

FrancieBrady · 04-09-2019 9:44am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Term of endearment...........

Caught out, more like.

Doctor Jimbob · 04-09-2019 9:45am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Arrogant entitled pr!ck i think it what what you refferred to him as.

Political Party, i actually couldn't care less

We could afford them? Ye sure. We can't properly finance our own HSE, How do you think we'd manage trying to fund a NHS style system. Norn Iron is a loss maker so i'm happy enough keeping them where they are

He is an arrogant, entitled prick though.

Stop moaning ffs · 04-09-2019 9:46am

First Up wrote: »

We have enough to do without at the same time trying to bring warring tribes together after centuries of hatred. Let NI reach its own conclusions about where its interests best lie. (I have no idea where that is by the way.) When they've worked that out among themselves they can let the rest of us know.

Thing about that is we only here about the very vocal extremes. The vast majority of people up there are sick of both extremes and would vote for a ui as a forward pragmatic way out of the disastrous outcomes of Brexit hit hard.

You have to convince everyone here in Ireland though. And happily can point to us being a forward thinking people. We’re up for social reform. I’d say a UI ref would pass comfortably here.

04-09-2019 9:55am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Arrogant entitled pr!ck i think it what what you refferred to him as.

You said posts not singular, please provide?
And his behaviour, last night, was reprehensible.

You also stated that I have an obvious bias about NI, and would actually love to see evidence of this.

04-09-2019 9:57am

First Up wrote: »

We have enough to do without at the same time trying to bring warring tribes together after centuries of hatred. Let NI reach its own conclusions about where its interests best lie. (I have no idea where that is by the way.) When they've worked that out among themselves they can let the rest of us know.

But this is exactly what I said, let them have a clear majority in favour of Unification. That is the core tenet of the GFA, self determination through peaceful means by the people of NI (and subsequently Ireland also)

04-09-2019 9:58am

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

He is an arrogant, entitled prick though.

:D:D

batgoat · 04-09-2019 9:59am

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

There is a vibe of nastiness from some of your posts on this thread. One about JRM springs to mind.

Political Party i'd say FF or SF

And for a United Ireland............No thanks, we couldn't afford the fcukers anyway

Mogg is pretty much regularly nasty and stuck up without cause.

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