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Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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    #4262
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Boris doesn't give a ****e about the people

    Oh yes, he is carrying out the mandate the people gave him, but yeah, he doesnt care


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    #4263
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,591 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Kidchameleon wrote:
    She literally has no balls, he literally has balls. She is a pussey, she cried on her own doorstep, a grown adult ffs. The EU laughed at her or used her as a puppet


    What age are you?


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    #4264
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,296 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    She had all the avenues available to her that Boris is exploring now. Why didnt she do more? She did not try her best to leave. She wanted to remain and is a traitor

    Boris is exploring his navel. Full stop.

    May did far far more than Boris has done...she got a deal. Boris is lying through his teeth that he is negotiating...if you vote for him or the UK does in ebough numbers to elect him...then. quite honestly they are welcome to him and IMO pass from having my sympathies over the predicament they are in to BRING IT ON.
    Only isolation will sort the UK out now.


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    #4265
    Padre_Pio
    Registered Users Posts: 5,227 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Oh yes, he is carrying out the mandate the people gave him, but yeah, he doesnt care

    Boris has done nothing and cannot do anything.

    He has been completely hamstrung by the opposition and his own party.


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    #4266
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,419 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    She literally has no balls, he literally has balls. She is a pussey, she cried on her own doorstep, a grown adult ffs. The EU laughed at her or used her as a puppet

    Brexiters having more meltdowns- still blaming T May because the children Can’t have what they want and the realization sinking in that dim BoJo ain’t the man to deliver it (or anything else for that matter). Very entertaining few days ahead as they lose the plot even more


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    #4267
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,296 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Boris has done nothing and cannot do anything.

    He has been completely hamstrung by the opposition and his own party.

    In less than a week of active parliament he has effectively been neutered.

    Has the great British public come on to the streets in anger about that?
    No, they have come onto the streets because of his cynical attempt to bypass parliament and neuter parliament.

    He is a lame duck PM...and possibly the shortest ever serving one. He has lost more votes in his tenure already than Gordon Brown did in 3 years.


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    #4268
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    They dont want an election because they will lose. It is 100% guaranteed that Boris is going to win.

    They don't want an election yet.....

    Three times now.

    I don't blame them either, because also as already mentioned they've a chance to absolutely humiliate BoJo with the extension he vowed never to ask for.

    This is basic stuff.


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    #4269
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Boris is exploring his navel. Full stop.

    May did far far more than Boris has done...she got a deal. Boris is lying through his teeth that he is negotiating...if you vote for him or the UK does in ebough numbers to elect him...then. quite honestly they are welcome to him and IMO pass from having my sympathies over the predicament they are in to BRING IT ON.
    Only isolation will sort the UK out now.


    May got a crap deal that parliament rejected many times. Boris has said that he wants a deal. He needs "no deal" to be on the table to use as a bargaining chip. The EU does not want no deal, Boris does not want it either. Remember, Boris is open to having a deal, as has been pointed out by many people here on Boards, he supported Teresa Mays deal in the end. I believe the EU would have made concessions and the deal would have passed through parliament before 31st October. With the mess that the remoaners have created now, it is more likely that Boris and the Brexit party will form a majority in the election and leave without a deal. Farage has said he will only support the conservatives if they are making a clean break. Well guess what, the conservatives need the Brexit party so they will have to offer them that clean break. Keep in mind, any bills that passed preventing a no deal Brexit can be legally torn up by the next administration. The bill that passed yesterday will not be worth the paper it is printed on after the election.


    To summarize, Boris wanted a better deal, he was using no deal as a bargaining chip, parliament took that from him and now a no deal Brexit is inevitable.


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    #4270
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,296 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    May got a crap deal that parliament rejected many times. Boris has said that he wants a deal. He needs "no deal" to be on the table to use as a bargaining chip. The EU does not want no deal, Boris does not want it either. Remember, Boris is open to having a deal, as has been pointed out by many people here on Boards, he supported Teresa Mays deal in the end. I believe the EU would have made concessions and the deal would have passed through parliament before 31st October. With the mess that the remoaners have created now, it is more likely that Boris and the Brexit party will form a majority in the election and leave without a deal. Farage has said he will only support the conservatives if they are making a clean break. Well guess what, the conservatives need the Brexit party so they will have to offer them that clean break. Keep in mind, any bills that passed preventing a no deal Brexit can be legally torn up by the next administration. The bill that passed yesterday will not be worth the paper it is printed on after the election.


    To summarize, Boris wanted a better deal, he was using no deal as a bargaining chip, parliament took that from him and now a no deal Brexit is inevitable.

    The EU was only hardening it's position on the deal. Boris or nobody else is getting a 'better' one.

    He couldn't even learn from his most recent predecessor - do NOT set redlines and he is now neutered. Big bloody deal if he has to ask for an extension.

    But no, Boris tried to bully parliament...bully the EU and is a busted flush.


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    #4271
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    They don't want an election yet.....

    Three times now.


    That still does not answer my question but I dont care, I have already answered it for you. If they have their guarantee and agree to an election they will still lose. And the guarantee will be worthless after the election anyway. The truth that you are trying desperately to avoid is that they dont want an election because they WILL lose.

    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    because also as already mentioned they've a chance to absolutely humiliate BoJo with the extension he vowed never to ask for.


    He will not have to ask for an extension, I guarantee you. Corbyn is a walking pile of humiliation.


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    #4272
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The EU was only hardening it's position on the deal. Boris or nobody else is getting a 'better' one.


    You obviously don't understand how negotiations work


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    #4273
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,296 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    You obviously don't understand how negotiations work

    I do...when they are actually happening.


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    #4274
    RobMc59
    Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    The people who will vote for him, who will be the majority, will trust him to deliver Brexit by the 31st of October. He is doing EXACTLY what he said he would do - deliver Brexit. How is it dishonest to do exactly what you say you are going to do?


    I am hearing nothing but lies from the remain side, food/medicine/oil shortages. None of which will happen. If you want to talk about lies and false campaigning, lets talk about the leave side

    I have worked for a number of pharmaceutical companies which manufactured intermediates(lipitor,crestor and HIV inhibitors amongst others) for various companies based in Europe , in the event of a no deal brexit this would probably mean those companies would`nt be licensed by the EU,which would mean they can`t produce for the European market-that means job loses-how is that taking back control?


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    #4275
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Oh yes, he is carrying out the mandate the people gave him, but yeah, he doesnt care




    ,,,this is the guy who campaigned for a no vote to raise his own profile and was so arrogant he never bothered to have any sniff of a plan if things went the other way.


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    #4276
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    He will not have to ask for an extension, I guarantee you. Corbyn is a walking pile of humiliation.

    But no deal is off the table, meaning Boris has to either ask for the extension, resign or break the law by ignoring parliament.

    What do you think he is going to do - if asking for the extension isn't it?

    Think the Tories backed the wrong horse chief.


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    #4277
    [Deleted User]
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Yeah skank was the wrong choice of word, maybe old fart is more appropriate.

    Looks fairly young. Care to counter his comments? Because Boris couldn't


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    #4278
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Why wouldn't labour agree to a general election?

    This is their big chance isn't it?
    Or was


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    #4279
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Why wouldn't labour agree to a general election?

    This is their big chance isn't it?
    Or was

    Because they want a vote to block a no deal first. Have you not followed any coverage of this?


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    #4280
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,296 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Why wouldn't labour agree to a general election?

    This is their big chance isn't it?
    Or was

    For the fairly shameful reason that parliament do not trust the PM...including 21 of his own MP's.


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    #4281
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    batgoat wrote: »
    Because they want a vote to block a no deal first. Have you not followed any coverage of this?

    I work for a living.

    Hopefully they get to block a no deal. Britain voted to leave but a deal in place beforehand just makes sense.

    Although I don't actually care either way


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    #4282
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    declanflynn wrote: »
    Doris is no nearer than she was to leaving, no balls its embarrassing

    She literally has no balls, he literally has balls. She is a pussey, she cried on her own doorstep, a grown adult ffs. The EU laughed at her or used her as a puppet
    Why doesn't doris tip out to Windsor explain things to lizzy and get her to sign a royal decree to leave and then just leave


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    #4283
    FunLover18
    Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I'd love to know how Johnson was going to get his magic new deal through a suspended parliament.


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    #4284
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Boris is exploring his navel. Full stop.

    May did far far more than Boris has done...she got a deal. Boris is lying through his teeth that he is negotiating...if you vote for him or the UK does in ebough numbers to elect him...then. quite honestly they are welcome to him and IMO pass from having my sympathies over the predicament they are in to BRING IT ON.
    Only isolation will sort the UK out now.


    May got a crap deal that parliament rejected many times. Boris has said that he wants a deal. He needs "no deal" to be on the table to use as a bargaining chip. The EU does not want no deal, Boris does not want it either. Remember, Boris is open to having a deal, as has been pointed out by many people here on Boards, he supported Teresa Mays deal in the end. I believe the EU would have made concessions and the deal would have passed through parliament before 31st October. With the mess that the remoaners have created now, it is more likely that Boris and the Brexit party will form a majority in the election and leave without a deal. Farage has said he will only support the conservatives if they are making a clean break. Well guess what, the conservatives need the Brexit party so they will have to offer them that clean break. Keep in mind, any bills that passed preventing a no deal Brexit can be legally torn up by the next administration. The bill that passed yesterday will not be worth the paper it is printed on after the election.


    To summarize, Boris wanted a better deal, he was using no deal as a bargaining chip, parliament took that from him and now a no deal Brexit is inevitable.
    I think doris isn't up to the job ye need nige


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    #4285
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,296 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    I'd love to know how Johnson was going to get his magic new deal through a suspended parliament.

    Or by not actually negotiating with anyone. They basically sent people to Brussels to make declamatory statements.


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    #4286
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    He will not have to ask for an extension, I guarantee you. Corbyn is a walking pile of humiliation.

    But no deal is off the table, meaning Boris has to either ask for the extension, resign or break the law by ignoring parliament.

    What do you think he is going to do - if asking for the extension isn't it?

    Think the Tories backed the wrong horse chief.
    Yeah it looks like the backed a donkey


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    #4287
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Why wouldn't labour agree to a general election?

    This is their big chance isn't it?
    Or was
    I think they explained why they didn't back one right now


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    #4288
    RobMc59
    Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    I'd love to know how Johnson was going to get his magic new deal through a suspended parliament.

    By sprinkling unicorn dust and rocking horse poo over everything and the nasty alliance against him will disappear..:pac:


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    #4289
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Looks fairly young. Care to counter his comments? Because Boris couldn't


    He either couldn't or didn't, I would imagine it is the latter though.


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    #4290
    First Up
    Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    declanflynn wrote:
    I think doris isn't up to the job ye need nige

    You'd have hoped that the notion that no deal was a bargaining chip had been shown to be nonsense long before now but I see that dead horse (in a ditch?) is still being flogged.

    Until brexiteers can grasp that reality, they will continue in ever decreasing circles.


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    #4291
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    But no deal is off the table, meaning Boris has to either ask for the extension, resign or break the law by ignoring parliament.

    What do you think he is going to do - if asking for the extension isn't it?

    Think the Tories backed the wrong horse chief.


    It is for now. But governments are not bound by the decisions of previous parliaments. Meaning if there is a general election and the conservatives/Brexit party win, they can leave with no deal and it is perfectly legal. That is what is going to happen, I cannot wait to gloat here when it does :D:D


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