Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

Bannasidhe

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris bridge from Ulster is all over the news. Google it.

That comment went completely over your head didn't it.

Think about this - how can an island be the 'mainland'?

We'll wait.

cryptocurrency

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

1824

In 1785 Friedrich Schiller wrote the poem "An die Freude'' as a celebration of the brotherhood of man. In 1824 Beethoven wrote the music.

Its a celebration of peace and the brotherhood of man. Both the poet and the composer wanted it to be a gift to people. "This kiss to the entire world"
The poem talking of Joy being the motivator.

It's lyrics are about running to the goal of being united with joy being our motivator.

Joy will embrace everyone. And we will all be brothers and sisters.

It was adopted in 1972.



The alternative title is ''all men shall be brothers. ''


It's refrain is 'All men shall be brothers'.

Brexiters of course have turned their backs on Beethoven!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/02/brexit-party-meps-turn-their-backs-european-anthem-ode-to-joy

It's not any anthem for any normal person. Couple of soy boys who want to be dominated maybe.

cryptocurrency

Bannasidhe wrote: »

That comment went completely over your head didn't it.

Think about this - how can an island be the 'mainland'?

We'll wait.

You can wait. Mainland.

Bannasidhe

cryptocurrency wrote: »

You can wait. Mainland.

You can say 'mainland' all you want but that doesn't make it correct.
It's a proposed bridge between one island and another, slightly larger, island.

droidman123

cryptocurrency wrote: »

It's not any anthem for any normal person. Couple of soy boys who want to be dominated maybe.

How do you define "a normal person" and also what is a soy boy?

Professor Moriarty

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You can say 'mainland' all you want but that doesn't make it correct.
It's a proposed bridge between one island and another, slightly larger, island.

Trolls live under bridges. Fact.

McMurphy

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris bridge from Ulster is all over the news. Google it.

The Brits want to build a bridge between the six counties and Scotland - both of whom have serious notions of departing the United Kingdom, possibly even more so now following the brexit debacle?

I say let them build it, sound investment.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

cryptocurrency wrote: »

You clearly don't have a clue and despite all your internet talk I actually know about this....even every bit of the islands you mentioned.

It would be faster today then back then, that's how easy it would be.

Does the aircraft carrier have any planes yet?

Anyway I remember when the Iranians took over that navy ship that time. Piece of cake.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris bridge from Ulster is all over the news. Google it.

We know. It’s pointless except for people on the east coast of Ulster who want to visit the west coast of Scotland.

davedanon

Yes, because if there's one thing Boris knows about, it's building bridges. Both literal and metaphorical.

Nice low-level homophobia there, crypto. You are really revealing yourself as a prince of a human being.


And what's with all the schoolboy sabre-rattling? Democracy not being nice to you, so you want a war now?

Franz Von Peppercorn II

cryptocurrency wrote: »

It's not any anthem for any normal person. Couple of soy boys who want to be dominated maybe.

As opposed to soy boys who sing an ode to a 90 year old German woman?

FunLover18

This bridge??

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/08/news/bridge-to-scotland-about-as-feasible-as-building-a-bridge-to-the-moon--1453026/

VinLieger

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Boris bridge from Ulster is all over the news. Google it.

You mean the bridge they want to build directly on top of the WW1 and WW2 munitions dumps?


https://www2.gov.scot/uploads/documents/ae08beauforts.fh10.pdf

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I don’t think the U.K. could beat Argentina right now if they took back the falklands. Be worth a try.

And how do you propose the Argentinians do that?

Bannasidhe

davedanon wrote: »

Yes, because if there's one thing Boris knows about, it's building bridges. Both literal and metaphorical.

Nice low-level homophobia there, crypto. You are really revealing yourself as a prince of a human being.


And what's with all the schoolboy sabre-rattling? Democracy not being nice to you, so you want a war now?

Sabre's are all they have left to rattle as the Royal Navy is so severely under funded (by the Tories) there are petitions going to 'save it'.

The overall financial situation for the MoD and the navy looks bleak. The weak pound will inflate the cost of planned foreign equipment purchases, particularly from the US and defence inflation continues to make major programmes even more expensive. Without further help from the Treasury, the MoD will have to find at least £1Bn savings each year for the next 10 years and it is rumoured the RN is already £500M short of what it needs for this year. Although barely begun, it is predicted that the ambitious Trident submarine replacement programme will consume all the £41Bn allocated, with costs likely to over-run.

There is a worrying lack of resilience in the fleet, with inadequate stocks of missiles, torpedoes and spares. Vessels regularly put to sea without a full complement of munitions and critical equipment is often rotated around ships. Although such a system may appear efficient in budgetary terms, an effective and credible navy needs flexibility and strength-in-depth to meet contingencies.

“The undeniable truth is that we are simply not spending enough on defence, and our sailors, soldiers and airmen are suffering in consequence” Col Bob Stewart

Waves of redundancies have left the RN with just 29,500 personnel and a lack of manpower is further diminishing its strength and resilience. This has created the familiar vicious circle where extra pressure lowers morale, causing more people to leave. The decline in warship numbers is the obvious effect of cuts but this ‘hollowing out’ of the Navy is just as serious, but conveniently hidden from public view. The crisis is particularly acute amongst technical ratings. In the last few years the RN has begun many initiatives in an attempt to stem resignations and aid recruitment. Regenerating manpower is challenging, particularly in competition with well paid civilian jobs. Wholly avoidable, this crisis was largely triggered by the foolish decisions made in 2010 and running the fleet too hard. The 2015 SDSR has given the RN a small uplift of 400 additional people. Together with internal redeployments and a plan to swap 300 officers for 600 ratings, theoretically RN will just about have enough personnel to man its future fleet. However, the manpower situation will be exceptionally tight and the planning depends on retaining its experienced people in the long-term.

https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/the-state-of-the-rn/

McMurphy

FunLover18 wrote: »

This bridge??

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/08/news/bridge-to-scotland-about-as-feasible-as-building-a-bridge-to-the-moon--1453026/

Borris bridge won't fly, it's already been taken.

Co Carlow.

blinding

cryptocurrency wrote: »

There was a leaflet issued at the cost of £10m to every household in the UK outline what leave meant.

Leave the single market, leave the customs union, end the control of the ECJ and to end free movement.

It also warned that there would be a end to free mobile phone roaming. They seemed to think that might swing it.

Great Post .

mcmoustache

droidman123 wrote: »

How do you define "a normal person" and also what is a soy boy?

Soy boy is a term mostly used in the places on the internet where weirdos such as incels, furries and weebs hang out. It's mostly used to describe men who don't gross out women with their obesity, poor hygiene and all around shíte personality.

blinding

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The Scottish are revolting.

But not enough to Vote themselves to be an Independent Country = Bottlers !

Kidchameleon

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Do you ever do any research before you post?

Gina Miller's case was unsuccessful in the High Court

Yes and the supreme court hearing is not till next week so as I said, safe to take your day off

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Yes and the supreme court hearing is not till next week so as I said, safe to take your day off

I thought you were taking one?

blinding

cryptocurrency wrote: »

They have made no concessions. They keep talking about the UK red lines but don't move their own.

The debate in the UK needs to focus more on how the common market in the 70s is the project we have now without previous referendums...in fact every nation needs to have that public debate including the US. We need to question seriously the claims the EU have any democratic principles.

It needs to be put out there that they need to wind their neck in as this EU army talk, fedralisation and all that might end up with Brussels needing regime change.

Good Points there .

VinLieger

blinding wrote: »

But not enough to Vote themselves to be an Independent Country = Bottlers !

Very likely a different result if held today, also wasn't a key claim by the stay campaign something about being in the eu?

davedanon

What kind of ocean-going idiot disses 'Ode to Joy' because of a connection to the EU????


It's fecking Beethoven, you nincompoop.

droidman123

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The Scottish are revolting.

Ah come on,they are not that bad

Kidchameleon

VinLieger wrote: »

Very likely a different result if held today, also wasn't a key claim by the stay campaign something about being in the eu?

The EU referendum was well known about at that stage. The scots just assumed like most people that the Brits would vote to remain. Point is, the scots made an informed decision

Bannasidhe

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I think your safe taking the day off. The same case taken by Gina Miller was thrown out of the supreme court last week, it will be the same for this one.

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Yes and the supreme court hearing is not till next week so as I said, safe to take your day off

You said it was thrown out of the Supreme Court.
Once again you have shown you don't do even the smallest bit of research.
You could be a Tory government minister.

blinding

VinLieger wrote: »

Very likely a different result if held today, also wasn't a key claim by the stay campaign something about being in the eu?

The Scots were revolted by the thought of being forced to have the Euro as their currency the last time . They would bottle it again . Can you imagine a supposedly Independent Country not voting itself to be an Independent Country .:eek::eek:

Kidchameleon

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You said it was thrown out of the Supreme Court.
Once again you have shown you don't do even the smallest bit of research.
You could be a Tory government minister.

I know what I said, after all, I said it

davedanon

I see we have a 'new' one to deal with.