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Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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    #512
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    blinding wrote: »
    Many of the MPs both Labour and Conservative lied at the General Election . They promised to respect the Brexit Referendum result but have done the direct opposite .

    Funnily enough Re-mainers are not too concerned about the lies these MPs told . Go figure !:eek:

    How have they done the opposite? We're still leaving?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #513
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Yeah, you're just taking the p*ss now.

    If the lies were cut by 50% during the referendum, the conversation would have been entirely different over the last 3 years.
    Fair Enough ! The Re-Mainers told some right Porkies .

    David Cameron saying that if he did not get a deal from the Eu that he would back Leave . The Eu rubbed his nose in their Excrement and he then said Vote Remain . :eek::eek::eek:

    I don’t know how those re-mainers can look themselves in the Mirror .


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    #514
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    How have they done the opposite? We're still leaving?
    Only because the MPs are afraid of the Electorate and the Brexit Party .

    Ya got to admire the British . They ain’t no Irish Lapdogs .


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    #515
    Lackadaisical
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Lackadaisical


    blinding wrote: »
    The Referendum has not been respected . You can’t really have referendums if you do not accept the democratic decision of the people .

    The referendum, which in reality was a plebiscite as it carries no legal power, was respected. The EU immediately (before the UK government even activated article 50) began preparing the way for an orderly exit.

    Theresa May then activated Article 50.

    Nobody, not the EU and not the British Government can magic away all the practical consequences of dismantling what is one of the most complex set of interconnections of trade and policy that any group of countries have ever entered into probably in history.

    The UK then proceeded to have an unbelievably agressive argument with itself and set all sorts of redlines that have made any practical way of exiting next to impossible without causing a major economic or social mess.

    The Northern Ireland situation has been left to the DUP, one of the more extreme players in what is effectively a civil war about identity politics and they've bizarrely been placed in the position of king maker / king breaker due to parliamentary arithmetic.

    So the referendum was respected. It's just that it isn't magic. You've voted to plunge the UK into chaos and that's precisely what's happened.

    At no stage has the EU blocked the UK from leaving and has actually been continuously trying to extend the hand of friendship only to have it bitten every time.

    If the UK wants to go tomorrow morning, it can. The economy will probably collapse and there'll likely be a run on sterling and nobody knows what happens to all the Brits around the EU when it comes to rights to reside, healthcare etc etc but those are are practical consequences.


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    #516
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


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    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #517
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    They invoked Article 50 and agreed a deal to leave. The referendum was respected. Democracy worked until it came back to parliament to be ratified and it was mainly Brexiteers who blocked them leaving.

    Explain how this is the EU's fault please?
    Plenty of Labour MPs could have backed the deal if they wanted to . Its not as if Jeremy Corbyn can expect party discipline with his voting record down the years .


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    #518
    ancapailldorcha
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    blinding wrote: »
    Only because the MPs are afraid of the Electorate and the Brexit Party .

    Ya got to admire the British . They ain’t no Irish Lapdogs .

    Can you answer my question please instead of spouting this drivel?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #519
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    blinding wrote: »
    Ya got to admire the British . They ain’t no Irish Lapdogs .

    What's with this type of nonsense? Are you twelve?


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    #520
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    <SNIP>
    Jeremy Hunt said the other day that he made sure that the NHS got their £350 Million . Well done Boris and Jeremy .

    Both now ardent Brexiteers .


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    #521
    ancapailldorcha
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    blinding wrote: »
    Jeremy Hunt said the other day that he made sure that the NHS got their £350 Million . Well done Boris and Jeremy .

    Both now ardent Brexiteers .

    Proof please.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #522
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,899 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    "Getting on with Brexit" would mean them having to admit the thing is a disaster.

    The reason they are spinning it out and stalling for time is to conceal it is a car crash (whilst assuring the public it is the best idea ever and that cancelling it would mean the end of democracy in the UK).


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    #523
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    What's with this type of nonsense? Are you twelve?
    The Irish are Eu Lapdogs . The British are not Eu Lapdogs . Both facts are correct .


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    #524
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Strazdas wrote: »
    "Getting on with Brexit" would mean them having to admit the thing is a disaster.

    The reason they are spinning it out and stalling for time is to conceal it is a car crash (whilst assuring the public it is the best idea ever and that cancelling it would mean the end of democracy in the UK).

    my theory is theyre just waiting till the economy softens anyway so they can do brexit and blame 'prevailing market conditions' for sterling falling off a cliff.


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    #525
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Proof please.
    I am sure in the unlikely event that Jeremy had erred that the Re-Mainer Rabid Dogs would have been all over it .


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    #526
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blinding wrote: »
    Plenty of Labour MPs could have backed the deal if they wanted to . Its not as if Jeremy Corbyn can expect party discipline with his voting record down the years .

    Wait...in this vaunted democracy of yours, people don't have the free will to do as they think best or even, perish the thought, change their minds?

    Are you entirely sure you know what 'democracy' means? :rolleyes:


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    #527
    ancapailldorcha
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    blinding wrote: »
    I am sure in the unlikely event that Jeremy had erred that the Re-Mainer Rabid Dogs would have been all over it .

    Can you not find a single link?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #528
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Strazdas wrote: »
    "Getting on with Brexit" would mean them having to admit the thing is a disaster.

    The reason they are spinning it out and stalling for time is to conceal it is a car crash (whilst assuring the public it is the best idea ever and that cancelling it would mean the end of democracy in the UK).
    Maybe they are playing for time as they prepare more and more for Brexit . I don’t see Leo or anyone else pushing them out . Maybe they are playing Leo and Co . Sure ya only have to Flash a Camera to distract Leo !


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    #529
    kunst nugget
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    blinding wrote: »
    Jeremy Hunt said the other day that he made sure that the NHS got their £350 Million.

    That's a head-scratcher seeing as they haven't actually left yet and they were never giving £350 million a week.


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    #530
    steddyeddy
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    blinding wrote: »
    Maybe they are playing for time as they prepare more and more for Brexit . I don’t see Leo or anyone else pushing them out . Maybe they are playing Leo and Co . Sure ya only have to Flash a Camera to distract Leo !

    Can you supply a link to your claim please?


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    #531
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Can you not find a single link?
    I actually follow politics and heard Jeremy say that he had delivered the £350 million for the NHS . Maybe you should try actually try following politics if you are going to comment on it .


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    #532
    Boggles
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    my theory is theyre just waiting till the economy softens anyway so they can do brexit and blame 'prevailing market conditions' for sterling falling off a cliff.

    If they leave with no deal on the 31st, Sterling will plummet when the markets open on the 1st.

    It will be some hard sell to convince people it is unrelated. :pac:


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    #533
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blinding wrote: »
    I actually follow politics and heard Jeremy say that he had delivered the £350 million for the NHS . Maybe you should try actually try following politics if you are going to comment on it .

    You heard Cameron saying stuff too and didn't believe him.

    Why would you take a Tory at his word? Doesn't make sense.


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    #534
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    blinding wrote: »
    I actually follow politics and heard Jeremy say that he had delivered the £350 million for the NHS . Maybe you should try actually try following politics if you are going to comment on it .

    that would seem like a quote that some paper would have picked up on,


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    #535
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    blinding wrote: »
    I actually follow politics and heard Jeremy say that he had delivered the £350 million for the NHS . Maybe you should try actually try following politics if you are going to comment on it .

    Link please.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #536
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Boggles wrote: »
    If they leave with no deal on the 31st, Sterling will plummet when the markets open on the 1st.

    It will be some hard sell to convince people it is unrelated. :pac:

    You'll get plenty on here blinding us with spin that it isn't related. :D


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    #537
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,899 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    my theory is theyre just waiting till the economy softens anyway so they can do brexit and blame 'prevailing market conditions' for sterling falling off a cliff.

    The elephant in the room is that everyone in a position of authority secretly knows the thing is a disaster but cannot admit to this as 'people voted for it'.

    A lot of the Leave voters though are too dense to realise this and actually believe the pro-Brexit propaganda.


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    #538
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    There ya go folks .
    https://www.itv.com/news/2018-06-16/nhs-to-get-extra-384-million-per-week-after-brexit-government-says/


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    #539
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Can you not find a single link?

    I'll provide them:

    https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt

    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-the-nhs-funding-boost-is-not-a-brexit-dividend

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/350-million-for-the-nhs-how-the-brexit-bus-pledge-is-coming-true/


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    #540
    ancapailldorcha
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    blinding wrote: »
    There ya go folks .
    https://www.itv.com/news/2018-06-16/nhs-to-get-extra-384-million-per-week-after-brexit-government-says/

    No. That link is well over a year old and quotes Theresa May.

    For the fourth time, link please.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #541
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Amazing how no one in the Eu is Pushing them Out . The Eu must really need that £39 billion;):p;)


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