Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

cryptocurrency

Deleted User wrote: »

But it does matter, a lot actually. Just like the TEFL world is becoming inundated with white South Africans, I fear that wages will drop even further when millions of young British people realise they can do TEFL instead of drawing the dole after a No Deal. Young Brits are already arriving and others are delaying going back.

Thankfully, I've got my own business up and running during my escape from life. You might have missed my posts in the entrepreneurship forum.

You shouldn't be accusing people of running from life when you yourself run a mile from a simple argument. In the last few days, you've really stepped up the personal attacks when confronted with just about anything you don't like. A dying troll I believe someone else called it.

Really? I am very financially secure so like the last crash, bring your global financial readjustment, it made me a mint last time and i'm even better placed to soak up the property fire sale auctions this time.

Blueshoe

It's amazing that the UK and EU haven't brought in some of the experts from here to negotiate a deal.

Peregrinus

Blueshoe wrote: »

It's amazing that the UK and EU haven't brought in some of the experts from here to negotiate a deal.

The UK seems to have been relying extensively on expertise very much like Crypto's.

Blueshoe

Peregrinus wrote: »

The UK has been relying extensively on expertise very much like Crypto's.

I hope they haven't been giving their services for free.

I'm going back to bed. Call me when it's all over.

cryptocurrency

UK used socialists such as Ollie Robins and May to do a deal and it failed. They now need to get free market capitalist libertarians to take it over the line.

The British are gambling wildly on political and economic upheaval - full of dangers, yet also breathtakingly bold. The EU esp Germany are doubling down on ideological certainties, a 20th Century pre-digital model, and the status quo.

The UK will win this battle in the end as their vision is forward, not backward thinking.

Peregrinus

cryptocurrency wrote: »

UK used socialists such as Ollie Robins and May . . .

People are likely to stop reading at this point.

cryptocurrency wrote: »

. . . The UK will win this battle in the end as their vision is forward, not backward thinking.

Those who persevere will have to stop reading at this point. It's not really possible to weep with laughter and read at the same time.

cryptocurrency

Peregrinus wrote: »

People are likely to stop reading at this point.


Those who persevere will have to stop reading at this point. It's not really possible to weep with laughter and read at the same time.

Words.

If you are so confident that you know what you are talking about then the world should hold no fear. You should not care what happens as either way you will work the opportunity and make money from it.

I don't sense this is the case with you. As with all pro EU fanatics, they need the tiiit of the state to hold them, as they are helpless.

8-10

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Really? I am very financially secure so like the last crash, bring your global financial readjustment, it made me a mint last time and i'm even better placed to soak up the property fire sale auctions this time.

True motivation revealed. Just like the Tory backers short selling the pound.

Selfish way of going about things. Push propaganda that no deal is a good thing because you've set yourself up to profit off it.

Peregrinus

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Words.

If you are so confident that you know what you are talking about then the world should hold no fear. You should not care what happens as either way you will work the opportunity and make money from it.

This makes literally no sense at all, and is not a coherent or meaningful response to anything I have said.

cryptocurrency wrote: »

cI don't sense this is the case with you. As with all pro EU fanatics, they need the tiiit of the state to hold them, as they are helpless.

Again, this makes no sense, and is not a response to anything I have said.

I wonder you bother posting to a discussion board, when you run hard to avoid any discusssion of the claims you make. Don't you worry your pretty little head about how I can make any money and instead, if you want not to be a figure of fun any more, start trying to explain to us how the Brexit plan you favour is not going to ruin the UK. In your explanation, best to avoid the word "socialist", because it doesn't mean what you think it means.

First Up

Peregrinus wrote:

I wonder you bother posting to a discussion board, when you run hard to avoid any discusssion of the claims you make. Don't you worry your pretty little head about how I can make any money and instead, if you want not to be a figure of fun any more, start trying to explain to us how the Brexit plan you favour is not going to ruin the UK. In your explanation, best to avoid the word "socialist", because it doesn't mean what you think it means.

I wonder has he figured out what day it is yet?

ancapailldorcha

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Words.

If you are so confident that you know what you are talking about then the world should hold no fear. You should not care what happens as either way you will work the opportunity and make money from it.

I don't sense this is the case with you. As with all pro EU fanatics, they need the tiiit of the state to hold them, as they are helpless.

I'm with Peregrinus. I have no idea why you are posting here either. What are you getting out of it?

And the "tiiit" thing? Has it really gone over your head that the EU is a peace and market-focused project? Did you never think to wonder why the phrase "Single Market" persists in discussions about Brexit and the EU?

SeaBreezes

cryptocurrency wrote: »

UK used socialists such as Ollie Robins and May to do a deal and it failed. They now need to get free market capitalist libertarians to take it over the line.

The British are gambling wildly on political and economic upheaval - full of dangers, yet also breathtakingly bold. The EU esp Germany are doubling down on ideological certainties, a 20th Century pre-digital model, and the status quo.

The UK will win this battle in the end as their vision is forward, not backward thinking.

Tally Ho!!

Yes, we've seen time and time again how the 'aristocratic forward vision' affects the common people.... gambling with people's lives to make the wealthy wealthier never goes well for the peasant cannon fodder...

First Up

ancapailldorcha wrote:

And the "tiiit" thing? Has it really gone over your head that the EU is a peace and market-focused project? Did you never think to wonder why the phrase "Single Market" persists in discussions about Brexit and the EU?

Haha.

Crypto's ill-informed defiance is amusing but harmless. More worrying is that Dominic Cummings and others who matter in the UK seem to be just as clueless about the EU.

Not only do they not understand what they are leaving, the don't seem to even understand what they joined.

Infini

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I'm with Peregrinus. I have no idea why you are posting here either. What are you getting out of it?

And the "tiiit" thing? Has it really gone over your head that the EU is a peace and market-focused project? Did you never think to wonder why the phrase "Single Market" persists in discussions about Brexit and the EU?

To be honest he might as well be called cryptoconspiracy because everything is either lies delusion or intentional trolling. Waste of time to bother answering em as they arent intersted in debate.

26000 Elephants

The low wattage arguments put forward by brexiteers dont bode well for their future prospects.

They will eventually knock on the door of every crank and nut case in an effort to support their misplaced beliefs.

First Up

First Up wrote: »

Haha.

Crypto's ill-informed defiance is amusing but harmless. More worrying is that Dominic Cummings and others who matter in the UK seem to be just as clueless about the EU.

Not only do they not understand what they are leaving, the don't seem to even understand what they joined.

They don't even understand Northern Ireland. It's the blind leading the blind. Absolute indifference towards their own fellow citizens.

We should have made an effort a long time ago to change it from the Irish border into the British border when anyone from the EU speaks of it.

First Up

Deleted User wrote:

We should have made an effort a long time ago to change it from the Irish border into the British border when anyone from the EU speaks of it.

Its the EU border soon.

VinLieger

Deleted User wrote: »

They don't even understand Northern Ireland. It's the blind leading the blind. Absolute indifference towards their own fellow citizens.

Well thats because the english don't consider anyone not english to be their equals, so why should they care about them?

ancapailldorcha

Deleted User wrote: »

They don't even understand Northern Ireland. It's the blind leading the blind. Absolute indifference towards their own fellow citizens.

It's worse. They've made no effort at all to understand Northern Ireland and do not seem to care to do so even now when the backstop that the government proposed is holding the whole thing up.

knipex

cryptocurrency wrote: »

The British are gambling wildly on political and economic upheaval - full of dangers, yet also breathtakingly bold. The EU esp Germany are doubling down on ideological certainties, a 20th Century pre-digital model, and the status quo.

The UK will win this battle in the end as their vision is forward, not backward thinking.

WTF are you talking about ???

RobMc59

Have I missed something here?-I was under the impression crypto is Irish,which is why I`m puzzled there appears to be rising animosity towards the British(especially English)following his/her recent posts-we`re not all rabid brexiteers!

Danzy

knipex wrote: »

WTF are you talking about ???

He is probably on about Germany, which while going ok, is riding on past success and not building for the future, in many areas it is standing still or stagnating.

From an EU perspective, it's a bigger story than Brexit.

Kermit.de.frog

Do unionists ever smile?

cryptocurrency

So Stormont will get the final say of getting out of the backstop and they are now trying to spin it as a win for all.

A backstop without a timelimit or an exit clause is not a backstop.

cryptocurrency

LBC saying backstop gone, more alignment between north and south but the north will make the call on the exit if wanted - might be true

26000 Elephants

The key word is consent. There will be no unilateral veto: but a time limit is possible if there is consensus to remove it.

This is about as far from Boris's original DUP-vetoable deal as you could possibly get. If it falls within the framework allowed by the GFA, then it's a border in the Irish sea.

Where it belongs. And the rest of the UK can carry on regardless on their merry Brexit way.

ancapailldorcha

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Do unionists ever smile?

On the glorious twelfth, the birth of a new Unionist child and the Queen's Christmas speech. On those occasions and those occasions alone.

cryptocurrency

26000 Elephants wrote: »

The key word is consent. There will be no unilateral veto: but a time limit is possible if there is consensus to remove it.

This is about as far from Boris's original DUP-vetoable deal as you could possibly get. If it falls within the framework allowed by the GFA, then it's a border in the Irish sea.

Where it belongs. And the rest of the UK can carry on regardless on their merry Brexit way.

a backstop with a vote is not a backstop

thomasj

Telegraph no less

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1182407250637459477?s=09

26000 Elephants

cryptocurrency wrote: »

a backstop with a vote is not a backstop

A backstop is a default position in the absence of the fabled unicorn proposals.

Its what happens when the bullsh1t fails and reality kicks in.

Any 'vote' would be academic.