Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

cryptocurrency · 10-10-2019 11:03pm

thomasj wrote: »

Telegraph no less

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1182407250637459477?s=09

Telegraph prints hammond remain articles, it's an article, a view, that is it

26000 Elephants · 10-10-2019 11:06pm

Typical DUP: You wait all day for a bus to be thrown under, and then 2 arrive at the same time.

cryptocurrency · 10-10-2019 11:08pm

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Typical DUP: You wait all day for a bus to be thrown under, and then 2 arrive at the same time.

counting chickens. Listen to some UK phone ins now, esp ulster calls..hairy stuff

FunLover18 · 10-10-2019 11:32pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

counting chickens. Listen to some UK phone ins now, esp ulster calls..hairy stuff

Which ones?

threeball · 10-10-2019 11:42pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Typical DUP: You wait all day for a bus to be thrown under, and then 2 arrive at the same time.

counting chickens. Listen to some UK phone ins now, esp ulster calls..hairy stuff

If radio call in shows decided anything Joe Duffy and Niall Boylan would be handling the negotiations.

Kermit.de.frog · 11-10-2019 12:18am

thomasj wrote: »

Telegraph no less

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1182407250637459477?s=09

The unionists have made a virtue of telling all of us how hopelessly dependent the region is on the UK market over the last 3 years and how much subvention they get.

I always thought this was tactical error with opinion in Britain.

Shoddy article though.

cryptocurrency · 11-10-2019 9:38am

French media saying boris caved on backstop and plans to win election and dump DUP. British media say DUP on board due to exit clause.

Only one can be right.

VinLieger · 11-10-2019 9:40am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

French media saying boris caved on backstop and plans to win election and dump DUP. British media say DUP on board due to exit clause.

Only one can be right.

When have the British media been right about anything in the last 4 years?

cryptocurrency · 11-10-2019 9:46am

“His bet: win the elections hands down and dispense with the votes of the DUP. If it's not bluff, Brexit in sight.”

Today the Varadkar-Johnson talks were being followed-up in Brussels where Brexit

Indeed ITV's Robert Peston tweeted: “Dublin says @BorisJohnson has made “a big move on customs arrangements” for the island of Ireland.

“London says @LeoVaradkar has made a “big move to secure a deal”. Are the statements compatible?”

But even the famously tough-talking Mr Peston conceded: “Certainly there is striking degree of optimism that a Brexit deal is possible.”

It's either a backstop or it's not. That's the litmus paper on who conceded. The backstop was aimed at giving Dublin and Brussels control on exit. If that's gone after always saying it's not up for negotiations, then they are capitulated.

Both sides will claim the win but we know the litmus test.

Time will only tell now. My money is the WA is reopened and the Backstop is either removed or NI has exit ability .

Dytalus · 11-10-2019 9:46am

VinLieger wrote: »

When have the British media been right about anything in the last 4 years?

To be fair, the Guardian (from what I've seen, I am subscribed to no British media so only get some of the articles) has been pretty spot on with the whole "this is a disaster, please God make it stop" reporting style.

cryptocurrency · 11-10-2019 9:46am

VinLieger wrote: »

When have the British media been right about anything in the last 4 years?

They called the backstop trap, the failure of Mays deal and the odious EU very well.

cryptocurrency · 11-10-2019 9:48am

Still for Boris to go so far and compromise now I'm not so sure. He should have ramped up tensions with Brussels with a military stand off and called their Mickey mouse armies bluff on their threats. Seriously, Belguim,

Run an aircraft carrier around Gibraltar.

VinLieger · 11-10-2019 9:54am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

They called the backstop trap,

LOL

cryptocurrency wrote: »

the failure of Mays deal

Literally every one who could count figured that one out

cryptocurrency wrote: »

and the odious EU very well.

LOL..... again

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Still for Boris to go so far and compromise now I'm not so sure. He should have ramped up tensions with Brussels with a military stand off and called their Mickey mouse armies bluff on their threats. Seriously, Belguim,

Run an aircraft carrier around Gibraltar.

You really live in some distorted reality dont you?

cryptocurrency · 11-10-2019 9:59am

VinLieger wrote: »

LOL

Literally every one who could count figured that one out

LOL..... again

You really live in some distorted reality don't you?

Thing is now, Boris gets to an election and gets a majority he can work without his hands tied behind I'm his back and aim to be less diplomatic.

Nobody likes the EU and its time to see it either break up or back to a pre 2002 that block.

Igotadose · 11-10-2019 10:00am

VinLieger wrote: »

LOL

You really live in some distorted reality dont you?

Just a pathetic troll. For another amusing example, there's a nice takedown on lbc by James O'Brien of a brexiteer. Point by point, everything the Brexiteer rabbits on about, is destroyed: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-corrects-brexiters-claims-one-by-one/

VinLieger · 11-10-2019 10:04am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Nobody likes the EU and its time to see it either break up or back to a pre 2002 that block.

Objectively untrue but hilarious nontheless

Donnielighto · 11-10-2019 10:08am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Thing is now, Boris gets to an election and gets a majority he can work without his hands tied behind I'm his back and aim to be less diplomatic.

Nobody likes the EU and its time to see it either break up or back to a pre 2002 that block.

Nobody in England or nobody at all? 80-90 percent of my mates like the EU, only exceptions are nationalist Sinn from who want 32 county unanswerable. The other is a farmer who thinks the regulations are too heavy handed. All others, a broad mix, support it.

11-10-2019 10:18am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Time will only tell now. My money is the WA is reopened and the Backstop is either removed or NI has exit ability .

I highly doubt it will be removed with what's been going on.

cryptocurrency · 11-10-2019 10:21am

Igotadose wrote: »

Just a pathetic troll. For another amusing example, there's a nice takedown on lbc by James O'Brien of a brexiteer. Point by point, everything the Brexiteer rabbits on about, is destroyed: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-corrects-brexiters-claims-one-by-one/

JOB only puts through the callers they know they can set up. He walks him into it and then mutes the for his prewritten monologues. Avoids platforms he can't control as he gets humiliated. Jacob Rees Mogg killed him on his own show. It's on YouTube.

cryptocurrency · 11-10-2019 10:21am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I highly doubt it will be removed with what's been going on.

Won't get past parliament if it isn't

Boris knows his career is gone if it's isn't or exit mech put in

11-10-2019 10:25am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Won't get past parliament if it isn't

So an extension request then I suppose.

cryptocurrency · 11-10-2019 10:27am

Donnielighto wrote: »

Nobody in England or nobody at all? 80-90 percent of my mates like the EU, only exceptions are nationalist Sinn from who want 32 county unanswerable. The other is a farmer who thinks the regulations are too heavy handed. All others, a broad mix, support it.

You must hang out with socialists..are you under 30?

Donnielighto · 11-10-2019 10:48am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

You must hang out with socialists..are you under 30?

Nope, the two who don't are self declared socialists.

Who are you hanging out with that you have such a skewed vision of the nation's wants. There is probably a more up to date one but check the following

https://mobile.twitter.com/dfatirl/status/993838618606211072

Imreoir2 · 11-10-2019 10:50am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

“His bet: win the elections hands down and dispense with the votes of the DUP. If it's not bluff, Brexit in sight.”

Today the Varadkar-Johnson talks were being followed-up in Brussels where Brexit

Indeed ITV's Robert Peston tweeted: “Dublin says @BorisJohnson has made “a big move on customs arrangements” for the island of Ireland.

“London says @LeoVaradkar has made a “big move to secure a deal”. Are the statements compatible?”

But even the famously tough-talking Mr Peston conceded: “Certainly there is striking degree of optimism that a Brexit deal is possible.”

It's either a backstop or it's not. That's the litmus paper on who conceded. The backstop was aimed at giving Dublin and Brussels control on exit. If that's gone after always saying it's not up for negotiations, then they are capitulated.

Both sides will claim the win but we know the litmus test.

Time will only tell now. My money is the WA is reopened and the Backstop is either removed or NI has exit ability .

The litmus test are the tests that the EU themselves set out; no checks at the border and the maintenance of the all island economey, respect the integrity of the single market, and the preservation of the Good Friday peace process.

If the deal fails to do this, then yes it is a capitulation by the EU, and a failure by all sides. If the deal does manage to meet all tests, then it is a win for us all.

Imreoir2 · 11-10-2019 10:53am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Still for Boris to go so far and compromise now I'm not so sure. He should have ramped up tensions with Brussels with a military stand off and called their Mickey mouse armies bluff on their threats. Seriously, Belguim,

Run an aircraft carrier around Gibraltar.

What is the UK creating a military stand off with their NATO allies supposed to achieve? Are you just a Russian bot?

This is bat**** crazy stuff, you really don't have a shread of credibility.

Donnielighto · 11-10-2019 11:10am

Imreoir2 wrote: »

What is the UK creating a military stand off with their NATO allies supposed to achieve? Are you just a Russian bot?

This is bat**** crazy stuff, you really don't have a shread of credibility.

Yeah that seemed weird, negotiatioms break down do the uk strike Brussels or somewhere? Laughable

sabat · 11-10-2019 11:35am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Still for Boris to go so far and compromise now I'm not so sure. He should have ramped up tensions with Brussels with a military stand off and called their Mickey mouse armies bluff on their threats. Seriously, Belguim,

Run an aircraft carrier around Gibraltar.

The UK currently has no operational aircraft carriers.

Dytalus · 11-10-2019 11:58am

sabat wrote: »

The UK currently has no operational aircraft carriers.

Meanwhile France has one in the Charles de Gaulle - the only nuclear powered aircraft carrier completed outside of the US Navy - Italy has two, and Spain has one.

But yeah, the UK's going to threaten the EU once Boris gets his majority. Perfectly sensible way forward in this.

knipex · 11-10-2019 12:07pm

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Begging bowl.....you are nuts. You have no idea. His political strength comes from doing nothing of the sort near begging.

Stop with the vomit words.

Crypto

You appear thik think that Borris or the UK have the power in this situation, That the EU need them far more than they need the EU.

He doesn't and they don't.

26000 Elephants · 11-10-2019 12:09pm

Donnielighto wrote: »

Yeah that seemed weird, negotiatioms break down do the uk strike Brussels or somewhere? Laughable

Just tell them thats where Stella Artois comes from. Invasion halted immediately. :pac:

Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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