Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

Guy:Incognito

cryptocurrency wrote: »

It isn't...and the UK knows that. The real trade is outside the EU now...own it.

Youd think theyd just walk away with no deal 3 and a half years ago so. Or at any stage since............

What can we gain from cutting ties with the EU to trade with the UK much closer ? What makes the UK such a powerhouse over the much bigger EU?

Boredstiff666

First Up wrote: »

OK; one step at a time;

There are no restrictions on members of the Single Market on where they buy. If you want evidence, 50% of what the UK buys comes from outside the Single Market. Do you accept that you were completely wrong on this?

It's besides the point. I never said they couldnt. What I actually said was that ever since Brexit they have been saying 'they can without the restrictions of the EU'.

What the actual rules are I have no idea or care even less.

But on that point what ever the rules the the UK can not be forced in anyway to buy stuff of any EU country after Brexit.........unless there is some agreement made.

How does this affect Ireland? Well ask the people who sell to the UK.

I did also say that if a business closes down in a town the whole town is affected. Well after Brexit this could happen on a large scale possibly.

I dont make the rules.

As I keep saying just wait and see.

Most peoples responses is the usual Brexit fools etc. say what you like as bad as you like it aint gonna make any difference to anybody.

First Up

cryptocurrency wrote:

Sure, Comrade, Single Market is ace, nothing else comes close, ever...ask all the med countries how the four pillars is working out for them

Let boredstiff stick up for himself.

cryptocurrency

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

What do the UK have to trade with?? They produce SweetFA...

Financial instruments...gold they are, gold i tell you

cryptocurrency

Cummings puts the call out for a new generation of non-humanities graduates to move into the offices of power, including:

Data scientists and software developers
Economists
Policy experts
Project managers
Communication experts

Cummings trying to rid the Civil Service of those lifers with worthless humanities backgrounds

cryptocurrency

https://www.change.org/p/jeremy-corbyn-mp-campaign-to-keep-jeremy-corbyn-as-leader

I'm sure some of you have signed this....

Irishmale0399

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Financial instruments...gold they are, gold i tell you

Financial instruments....financial institutes...they are moving their offices to the EU my friend. What are these instruments?? The ones Mogg and Johnson are set to make money on???

Tony EH

cryptocurrency wrote: »

The EU are consolidating their power before extreme socialism. They will dictate what you can say, eat and travel too under the guise if wokeness

It's always hilarious when the children of the Internet Right try to talk politics.

It's akin to listening to flat earthers going on about astrophysics.

:pac:

First Up

Boredstiff666 wrote: »

It's besides the point. I never said they couldnt. What I actually said was that ever since Brexit they have been saying 'they can without the restrictions of the EU'.

This is exactly what you said (9014)

The single market is great if you are in it but restrictive as well. For instance you cant go and source goods cheaper if you are in it.

Outside it you can and they will.

Spot the difference?

Boredstiff666

Tony EH wrote: »

It's always hilarious when the children of the Internet Right try to talk politics.

It's akin to listening to flat earthers going on about astrophysics.

:pac:

Another talking about internet users and this one has over 11,000 posts and thats just on here.

Cue the Mod.

Kidchameleon

cryptocurrency wrote: »

https://www.change.org/p/jeremy-corbyn-mp-campaign-to-keep-jeremy-corbyn-as-leader

I'm sure some of you have signed this....

Didnt you hear? He won the argument!!

davedanon

Boredstiff666 wrote: »

Hold on there. As I said I dont follow this but.

Wan't Obama responsible for forced repatriations of illegals?

Isnt the Left Antifa going around attacking and killing people?

Regards Statemanship......Most world leaders could fail that test including out own President.

And here is the proof. Remember the scene in The Big Short (great film) when the lads can't believe people can be as stupid as they seem, and take off for Vegas to check if there's a property bubble?

boredstiff is exactly the sort of person fake news exists to influence. Lazy, uninformed and only too willing to have their world view formed for them by internet propagandists. Last post of yours I respond to, my friend. You're not worth bothering with.

davedanon

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Financial instruments...gold they are, gold i tell you

Financial instruments collapsed the world economy in 2008, fella.

Tony EH

davedanon wrote: »

boredstiff is exactly the sort of person fake news exists to influence. Lazy, uninformed and only too willing to have their world view formed for them by internet propagandists. Last post of yours I respond to, my friend. You're not worth bothering with.

The millennials of the "Internet Right" are the most ridiculous incarnation of that particular wing of politics. Their positions are solely defined by what they hate and what they paint their "opposition" as, usually SJW's, cucks, libtards and so on. Their information is spoon fed to them on the web by, largely, American clickbaiters on the likes of YouTube, which they lap up, leading them to a truly warped view of a world that they really have no idea about, outside of a computer or phone screen.

And I thought the Christian Right were absurd. But just like the Christian Right, their fantasies have absolutely no basis in any kind of reality that occurs in the real world.

Irishmale0399

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

What do the UK have to trade with?? They produce SweetFA...

The UK exports about $490Bn worth of goods, but more importantly in a trade deal, it imports $670Bn, of which 60% is from the EU.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/united-kingdoms-top-exports/
http://www.worldstopexports.com/united-kingdoms-top-10-imports/

Beasty

Boredstiff666 wrote: »

Another talking about internet users and this one has over 11,000 posts and thats just on here.

Cue the Mod.

Do not post in this thread again

Imreoir2

cryptocurrency wrote: »

I agree, and brexit is part of that resistance. I notice Leo is even telling people to go meat free while running a agri economy. This who Vegan, Environmental Scientology is just a new way to keep the masses in their box. They are creating a world where kids are scared for life and scared the world is gonna end along with telling us to not have kids to save the planet. History will judge the brainwashing pushed out by the EU very badly.

You, along with other posters here seem to be thinking of Ireland as it was in the 1950's.

Ireland is not an "agri economey". Agriculture is less than 2% of our economey. You are posting as if you are some Yank who's only experience of Ireland was watching The Quiet Man once.

Imreoir2

cryptocurrency wrote: »

It isn't...and the UK knows that. The real trade is outside the EU now...own it.

Sure it is pal, sure it is.

The UK does more trade with Ireland than with anyone outside the EU other than the US and China. Ireland is a bigger export market for British goods than China is. Where is all this trade for the UK going to come from?

Tony EH

Tony EH wrote: »

The millennials of the "Internet Right" are the most ridiculous incarnation of that particular wing of politics. Their positions are solely defined by what they hate and what they paint their "opposition" as, usually SJW's, cucks, libtards and so on. Their information is spoon fed to them on the web by, largely, American clickbaiters on the likes of YouTube, which they lap up, leading them to a truly warped view of a world that they really have no idea about, outside of a computer or phone screen.

And I thought the Christian Right were absurd. But just like the Christian Right, their fantasies have absolutely no basis in any kind of reality that occurs in the real world.

That is a fair reflection of the internet generation and applies equally to the right and the left.

cryptocurrency

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Jobs here if anyone is interested

cryptocurrency

Imreoir2 wrote: »

Sure it is pal, sure it is.

The UK does more trade with Ireland than with anyone outside the EU other than the US and China. Ireland is a bigger export market for British goods than China is. Where is all this trade for the UK going to come from?

I think that is what they are boldly gonna change

Imreoir2

Imreoir2 wrote: »

Sure it is pal, sure it is.

The UK does more trade with Ireland than with anyone outside the EU other than the US and China. Ireland is a bigger export market for British goods than China is. Where is all this trade for the UK going to come from?

A lot of that isn’t originating in the U.K. most global manufacturers see the U.K. and Ireland as one market. Same electricity standards, drive on the same side of the road, support the same football teams, watch the same television.

Goods are produced for the one market and shipped in to the U.K. for onwards distribution to Ireland.

cryptocurrency

Imreoir2 wrote: »

The video has clearly been cut, it starts in the middle of a sentance with the subtitles saying stuff that is not heard in the video.

As I said before, its a rather blatent hatchet job.

What do you even think the video shows, specifically?

Are you saying the BBC, pro EU BBC, bury the documentary on BBC4 BBC, edited this and it's not true?

First Up

Aegir wrote:

Goods are produced for the one market and shipped in to the U.K. for onwards distribution to Ireland.

Which won't be the case after Brexit.

cryptocurrency

Imreoir2 wrote: »

You, along with other posters here seem to be thinking of Ireland as it was in the 1950's.

Ireland is not an "agri economey". Agriculture is less than 2% of our economey. You are posting as if you are some Yank who's only experience of Ireland was watching The Quiet Man once.

Economy, see we both spelt it wrong.

cryptocurrency

First Up wrote: »

Which won't be the case after Brexit.

ah it will be. It is gonna be fine.

EU won't bully the UK and the UK will be free to do new trade deals, avoid tax harmonisation and other socialist agenda from Brussels and they will still reach out. They've no choice.

fly_agaric

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Are you saying the BBC, pro EU BBC, bury the documentary on BBC4 BBC, edited this and it's not true?

^^ I asked kidchameleon a question earlier about source of that doctored Michel Barnier clip he posted.
May as well not let my research go to waste [before I log off for the day]!

Vote Watch UK website: https://vote-watch.co.uk.
I could not find anything too obvious on there yesterday about who set it up or why exactly (other than what you can glean from the content) but on one page it has a patreon link (for VoteWatch).

So a bit of the blurb there was:

"VoteWatch UK Ltd consists of independent investigative journalists and political activists. Founded by Jay Beecher, a former VoteLeave Coordinator and leadership election campaign manager, VoteWatch aims to closely monitor key areas highlighted across the UK as being at the highest risk of electoral fraud. We also aim to educate on democracy, provide exclusive interviews and reports, expose crooked politicians, and delve into sections of Britain's vote-rigging epidemic that the mainstream media are too afraid to cover. With undercover journalism, secret filming, exclusive news, and in-depth investigations, we'll be dragging the ballot burglars of Britain up to the surface. Come join us."

So someone called Jay Beecher, a UK Eurosceptic politician who worked on the Conservative "Vote Leave" EU referendum campaign and also a former Ukipper.

There's a bit of a bio on the amazon.co.uk entry for a book he wrote about internal political shenanigans within the dying beast that is the UKIP party.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ukip-Exposed-Inside-Corruption-Hypocrisy/dp/1542650593

and like all politicians is on twitter too
https://twitter.com/Jay_Beecher?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Defo has no dogs in the argy bargy & political bunfight over the Irish Sea about Brexit, the EU, and the withdrawal negotiations at all at all.

A really excellent source of unbiased information on these topics for Irish readers of this website!

Much better than the SJW BBC cucks or lamestream media all given their lines by Soros and the high "IQ" but machiavellian Jews (as I'm reliably told by an unbiased independent source I found on the internet 5 min ago).

cryptocurrency

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/01/united-britain-will-have-upper-hand-divided-declining-european/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

Liam Haligan is right about the declining EU and the UK now with this majority is primed to secure a good deal. They gave canada a free trade deal. If they declined one for the UK then they are neither good nighbours, friends or allies.

First Up

cryptocurrency wrote:

EU won't bully the UK and the UK will be free to do new trade deals, avoid tax harmonisation and other socialist agenda from Brussels and they will still reach out. They've no choice.

You think it will be economic for goods to go through whatever import controls the UK imposes, sit in a UK warehouse and then go through a whole other set of EU import controls to get to Ireland?

You really don't have a clue.

cryptocurrency

First Up wrote: »

You think it will be economic for goods to go through whatever import controls the UK imposes, sit in a UK warehouse and then go through a whole other set of EU import controls to get to Ireland?

You really don't have a clue.

with the current deal that won't happen. It is up to the EU how complicated it wants to make it for us in the future. The UK has no interest in anything but free flowing trade.