Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

cryptocurrency

SantaCruz wrote: »

Yes, and British food is the best too.

*cough*

Compared to German?

British food, like Irish, can be as good or as bad as your budget and efforts allow

cryptocurrency

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Gosh. Wonder if he/she knows there are no longer any British colonies.
There are British Territories.
These are them:
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunhatwice?
Saint Helena
Ascension Island
Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands.

I am intrigued as to what military service on which territory was performed.
War in the Falklands?
Attempt to capture mutineers from The Bounty on Pitcairn?
Guarding Napoleon on St Helena?
Shooting to kill on Gibraltar?

Protecting dodgy bank accounts in the Caymans?!?

lived and worked in the bold, even if somehow listed twice

J Mysterio

cryptocurrency wrote: »

I got a warning against being british

So did the rest of the world mate. Brexit wasn't it?

cryptocurrency

J Mysterio wrote: »

So did the rest of the world mate. Brexit wasn't it?

being british is awesome, if you get the opportunity, take it with both hands

timetogo1

cryptocurrency wrote: »

being british is awesome, if you get the opportunity, take it with both hands

You've posted a lot of rubbish on this site. Kind of hard to beat that one for pure stupidity though.

cryptocurrency

timetogo1 wrote: »

You've posted a lot of rubbish on this site. Kind of hard to beat that one for pure stupidity though.

both hands

SantaCruz

cryptocurrency wrote: »

being british is awesome, if you get the opportunity, take it with both hands

You have to wonder what you are doing stuck in this lousy country, which is stuck in the evil EU.

Tony EH

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I wonder would he care to tell us where and when he served?

On his X Box.

Edgware

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Oi!!!! You ain't lived till you have had jellies eels, Greggs sausage rolls and a proper cup of tea

You mean a cup of Rosie Lee made by your Nan

ancapailldorcha

timetogo1 wrote: »

You've posted a lot of rubbish on this site. Kind of hard to beat that one for pure stupidity though.

I was giving it serious consideration until the referendum result. It probably would have been a waste of money but it would have felt like me properly belonging here.

Now, though? Well over a grand for an inferior passport? No thanks.

ancapailldorcha

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I was giving it serious consideration until the referendum result. It probably would have been a waste of money but it would have felt like me properly belonging here.

Now, though? Well over a grand for an inferior passport? No thanks.

Inferior passport?

ancapailldorcha

Aegir wrote: »

Inferior passport?

It's not going to get me frictionless access to many countries after Brexit.

Imreoir2

Aegir wrote: »

Inferior passport?

Different passports have different power, you can rank them based on the ease of travel/rights in host countries they afford you. Going to the US on an Irish passport is a very different prospect than going on a Brazallian passport.

Once they leave the EU the British passport will fall well down the table. Why do you think so many Brits are doing all they can to get their hands on an EU passport?

davedanon

It's well known that an Irish passport is, and always has been, pure gold. Everyone likes us, we have no shameful post-colonial history (quite the opposite, of course) to colour the views of the former colonials. A British passport is toxic by contrast, probably second only to the US.

davedanon

And yeah, we're well into "Well if you like it so much, why don't you go and live there..." territory, with the dismal duo's baffling UK-philia.

RobMc59

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I was giving it serious consideration until the referendum result. It probably would have been a waste of money but it would have felt like me properly belonging here.

Now, though? Well over a grand for an inferior passport? No thanks.

Is that all you consider inferior about Britain?
Does it have any redeeming points in your opinion?

ancapailldorcha

RobMc59 wrote: »

Is that all you consider inferior about Britain?
Does it have any redeeming points in your opinion?

I'm talking specifically about British passports and the opportunities that they soon won't be affording.

Cordell

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Instead of being in the queue with the Irish and French, they'll be in the queue with the Pakistanis and Africans.

That should be fine, current and ex crown subjects belong together.

davedanon

I love the logic-inversion that allows for a post imputing racism to a cohort to be accused itself of racism.

Imreoir2

Imreoir2 wrote: »

Different passports have different power, you can rank them based on the ease of travel/rights in host countries they afford you. Going to the US on an Irish passport is a very different prospect than going on a Brazallian passport.

Once they leave the EU the British passport will fall well down the table. Why do you think so many Brits are doing all they can to get their hands on an EU passport?

and if you urgently need consular assistance in Bangalore or Hong Kong, would you rather rely on the Irish or British consular services?

davedanon wrote: »

It's well known that an Irish passport is, and always has been, pure gold. Everyone likes us, we have no shameful post-colonial history (quite the opposite, of course) to colour the views of the former colonials. A British passport is toxic by contrast, probably second only to the US.

only in the mind of a few deluded Irish people I'm afraid.

ancapailldorcha

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I'm talking specifically about British passports and the opportunities that they soon won't be affording.

you do know the world is a tad bit bigger than europe, don't you?

ancapailldorcha

Aegir wrote: »

you do know the world is a tad bit bigger than europe, don't you?

Is this sort of snide comment all you have to say or do you have an argument to present?

ohnonotgmail

Aegir wrote: »

and if you urgently need consular assistance in Bangalore or Hong Kong, would you rather rely on the Irish or British consular services?

As an Irish citizen i can use the consular services of any EU member in an emergency. The british have lost that ability.

Timberrrrrrrr

davedanon wrote: »

It's well known that an Irish passport is, and always has been, pure gold. Everyone likes us, we have no shameful post-colonial history (quite the opposite, of course) to colour the views of the former colonials. A British passport is toxic by contrast, probably second only to the US.

That really isn't the case you know.

ohnonotgmail

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

That really isn't the case you know.

Probably an exaggeration to say everybody likes us but I have seen attitudes change when I tell people I am irish and not english. And change remarkably for the better.

timetogo1

Aegir wrote: »

you do know the world is a tad bit bigger than europe, don't you?

You do know that the Irish passport is useful in a tad more than Europe already.

The Irish and UK passports currently have the same ranking (about 7th most powerful).
Do you see the UK one improving on that status. Australia and India have already told the UK where to go.
What improvements can you see happening for British passport holders?
Obviously we're already aware of the negatives post Brexit.

Dytalus

Aegir wrote: »

and if you urgently need consular assistance in Bangalore or Hong Kong, would you rather rely on the Irish or British consular services?

Anyone holding an EU passport is entitled to help from any EU embassy/consulate in the event their own member state is unable to provide assistance.

The question therefore becomes "would you rather the option of help from a British consulate only, or your nearest available EU consulate?". I know which option I would prefer.

Aegir

Aegir wrote: »

and if you urgently need consular assistance in Bangalore or Hong Kong, would you rather rely on the Irish or British consular services?



only in the mind of a few deluded Irish people I'm afraid.

https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

The Irish passport is ranked higher right now, and it is a fact that if visas are needed for British people visiting EU countries, the British passport will fall quite a long way as that is factored in and it's a lot of countries.

As for consular services, you'd have to give some extra details on how severe that emergency is. After a decade in Asia, I've never heard of anyone needing any emergency services.

Every British person I know living in Vietnam is jealous when they hear about how the Irish system is set up. The British embassy can't even notarise things here anymore for some reason and now there's some nonsense about a lawyer in the UK having to see it etc., and if they want a new passport, it has to go through HK, and back to the UK, and then back again etc.

I paid $40 to have my documents stamped last summer. Two new English colleagues spend nearly a thousand pounds between them because some stuff had to be sent back. They have to book well in advance. I just wander into the Irish one.


I'm very happy with my Irish passport here. Saved a lot of time and effort compared to a British passport holder.

ancapailldorcha

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Is this sort of snide comment all you have to say or do you have an argument to present?

Snide? Hello mr pot, meet mr kettle :rolleyes:

I thought it was fairly obvious. the only difference is travel in europe, which would not have made any difference to you anyway, unless you were thinking about giving up your Irish citizenship and passport anyway.

Outside of europe, a British passport would be far more useful than an Irish one, if you need consular services.

ancapailldorcha

Aegir wrote: »

Snide? Hello mr pot, meet mr kettle :rolleyes:

I thought it was fairly obvious. the only difference is travel in europe, which would not have made any difference to you anyway, unless you were thinking about giving up your Irish citizenship and passport anyway.

Outside of europe, a British passport would be far more useful than an Irish one, if you need consular services.

Em... I can avail of any EU consulate which makes much more sense. The Brits can only avail of British consulates. As I said, the British passport is soon to be inferior. Blue and French-made, but inferior.