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Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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    #992
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    So you keep dictating. That is a decision for them not you, the EU or anyone else.

    Are you sure you understand what a democracy is?
    A vote of no confidence in the government can cause a General Election in Britain . It would have been certain to under the old system . Cameron and Clegg made some changes that have made it not quite so straight forward now .

    Anyway if Boris challenges the opposition parties to a General Election they will hardly turn Chicken:D

    Why would they be afraid of the electorate :D

    Leo seems to have got very nervous about the Irish electorate lately . Was it the Swings and Fall-about


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    #993
    blinding
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Do you think Nige was right in saying Ursula Von Der Leyen has power but no legitimacy? She got got 52% of the vote.
    She was like some dodgy Cardinal that Merkel pulled out of her a$$ and the well paid / gold plated expenses / gold plated pension / gold plated pay off when they leave Priests of the Eu Parliament nodded as nodding donkeys do .

    She won in a one person election . A real Hobsons Choice ( a choice of one )

    Its an Election Eu style . A useless defence minister in Germany .


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    #994
    KildareP
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    blinding wrote: »
    If the scots show figure anywhere near 50% +1 then they will not be able to stop it . Funnily enough most Scots think its far too soon to have another referendum . they were told by both sides that the last one was a once in a generation referendum .

    Incidentally do you think if the SNP / Scots got 52% for Independence that they would become an Independent Country ?;)

    They cannot legally hold a referendum without the approval of Westminster.

    Any result showing an indication of 51% or higher will therefore be written off as meaningless since it is not an official referendum.

    And yes, I do strongly suspect the SNP would proceed ahead with indepdendence if they got a mandate for it - ironically, for the very reason the Brexiteers claim they want to leave the EU (but can't seem to pinpoint any examples of EU suppression - whereas Scotland could demonstrate examples of Westminster suppression quite easily)


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    #995
    Guy:Incognito
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    blinding wrote: »
    If the scots show figure anywhere near 50% +1 then they will not be able to stop it . ?;)

    What's remain polling at these days?


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    #996
    Guy:Incognito
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    blinding wrote: »
    They first need to give their Verdict on this Parliament of MPs at a General Election . If after a General Election the new parliament votes for another referendum then so be it particularly if that is in their General Election Manifestos .

    Just keep asking them till you get the answer you want so?

    General elections for all.


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    #997
    FrancieBrady
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    blinding wrote: »
    A vote of no confidence in the government can cause a General Election in Britain . It would have been certain to under the old system . Cameron and Clegg made some changes that have made it not quite so straight forward now .

    Anyway if Boris challenges the opposition parties to a General Election they will hardly turn Chicken:D

    Why would they be afraid of the electorate :D

    Leo seems to have got very nervous about the Irish electorate lately . Was it the Swings and Fall-about

    Which is an answer to what I said, in what way? Every 'democracy' has it's way of running the legislature.

    These functions are changed by agreement, not dictat. Leo may be nervous, but Leo cannot subvert the function of the state.


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    #998
    blinding
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Just keep asking them till you get the answer you want so?
    Thats part of the Eu-Phile Religion . Voting only counts when you get the Eu’s Right Answer = Not Democracy .


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    #999
    First Up
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    blinding wrote:
    I love Democracy .


    Do you have a favourite kind?


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    #1000
    blinding
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    First Up wrote: »
    Do you have a favourite kind?
    General Elections and Referendums .


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    #1001
    Guy:Incognito
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    blinding wrote: »
    Thats part of the Eu-Phile Religion . Voting only counts when you get the Eu’s Right Answer = Not Democracy .

    No. You're asking for more general elections within a government cycle. You. Not anyone else. You


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    #1002
    First Up
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    blinding wrote:
    General Elections and Referendums .


    So if general elections are good, then you agree with representative democracy.

    But you also like referendums, so who decides what matters are decided by the elected representatives and what matters are put to the people?

    And what criteria should be used to decide? For example should the budget be designed by government and agreed by the Dail or should it be subject to a public vote?


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    #1003
    DrumSteve
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    blinding wrote: »
    She was like some dodgy Cardinal that Merkel pulled out of her a$$ and the well paid / gold plated expenses / gold plated pension / gold plated pay off when they leave Priests of the Eu Parliament nodded as nodding donkeys do .

    She won in a one person election . A real Hobsons Choice ( a choice of one )

    Its an Election Eu style . A useless defence minister in Germany .

    Was Farage a Hobsons choice for the brexit party in that case?

    Considering he was the only one on the ballot?


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    #1004
    blinding
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    No. You're asking for more general elections within a government cycle. You. Not anyone else. You
    When a government cannot enact its policies then it is not unusual to have a General Election . Its actually unusual not to have one in this situation .


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    #1005
    pjohnson
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    blinding wrote: »
    When a government cannot enact its policies then it is not unusual to have a General Election . Its actually unusual not to have one in this situation .

    Who are you and what have you done with blinding? The lack of about 15 capital letters is concerning.


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    #1006
    blinding
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Was Farage a Hobsons choice for the brexit party in that case?

    Considering he was the only one on the ballot?
    The Brexit Party seems to be more of a Collective . A Collective around one issue . Ensuring that the Democratic decision of the British People is Respected .


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    #1007
    blinding
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    pjohnson wrote: »
    Who are you and what have you done with blinding? The lack of about 15 capital letters is concerning.
    SoRrY .


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    #1008
    ambro25
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    blinding wrote: »
    The Brexit Party seems to be more of a Collective . A Collective around one issue . Ensuring that the Democratic decision of the British People is Respected .
    Snake oil merchant selling still more snake oil to the gullible, more like:

    https://bylinetimes.com/2019/07/19/weve-been-misled-brexit-party-mp-hopefuls-left-out-in-the-cold/

    I'm shocked, I tell thee! Shocked! :pac:


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    #1009
    blinding
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    ambro25 wrote: »
    Snake oil merchant selling snake oil, more like:

    https://bylinetimes.com/2019/07/19/weve-been-misled-brexit-party-mp-hopefuls-left-out-in-the-cold/
    Very popular with the People . Great Success in Europe and the Referendum .


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    #1010
    Laois_Man
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    blinding wrote: »
    The Conservatives with the Brexit party on a Brexit platform should be able to win a majority .

    Thats Democracy Folks and I love it .

    The latest ComRes opinion poll doesn't even give Con+BP the lead over Lab+Lib Dems, never mind give them a majority

    Then the SNP and/or the Greens will likely play a part in the formation of the next government also!
    blinding wrote: »
    The Electorate need to give their Verdict on this Parliament and their handling of the Brexit Referendum Result in a General Election .

    They already gave their DEMOCRATIC verdict 2-years ago!! I thought you were dead set against allowing people to vote again!!
    blinding wrote: »
    She was like some dodgy Cardinal that Merkel pulled out of her a$$ and the well paid / gold plated expenses / gold plated pension / gold plated pay off when they leave Priests of the Eu Parliament nodded as nodding donkeys do .

    She won in a one person election . A real Hobsons Choice ( a choice of one )

    Its an Election Eu style . A useless defence minister in Germany .

    A one person election? If you followed ANY of the happenings in Brussels, you would know that Von Der Leyen was not even one of the front runners for the role! Manfred Weber was the front runner and Frans Timmermans and Margrethe Vestager were also ahead of her
    blinding wrote: »
    When a government cannot enact its policies then it is not unusual to have a General Election . Its actually unusual not to have one in this situation .

    It reflects exactly the split of public opinion in the UK which is the exact democracy you keep banging on about!
    blinding wrote: »
    Very popular with the People . Great Success in Europe and the Referendum .
    And how many failed General Election bids? 5?


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    #1011
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Re-Mainers seem to be very scared of a General Election. I wonder why that is ?


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    Laois_Man
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    blinding wrote: »
    Re-Mainers seem to be very scared of a General Election. I wonder why that is ?


    Leavers seem to be very scared of a second referendum. I wonder why that is

    Yanno....one where the Leave campaign actually campaigns for No Deal Brexit and not the "quickest/easiest deal in history" one they campaigned for last time!


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    #1013
    blinding
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    Laois_Man wrote: »
    Leavers seem to be very scared of a second referendum. I wonder why that is

    Yanno....one where the Leave campaign actually campaigns for No Deal Brexit and not the "quickest/easiest deal in history" one they campaigned for last time!
    After the electorate have given their verdict on this Parliament of MPs in a General Election and then if a party has promised to have another referendum in their Manifesto and wins that General election then there can be another Referendum .

    Why so afraid of a General Election . It may open the door to another Referendum .


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    #1014
    DrumSteve
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    blinding wrote: »
    The Brexit Party seems to be more of a Collective . A Collective around one issue . Ensuring that the Democratic decision of the British People is Respected .

    but only one fuhrer leader right?


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    FrancieBrady
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    blinding wrote: »
    Re-Mainers seem to be very scared of a General Election. I wonder why that is ?

    Who is scared of a general election? The people who fearlessly want another referendum?

    At least make the semblance of sense, will you?


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    Guy:Incognito
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Was Farage a Hobsons choice for the brexit party in that case?

    Considering he was the only one on the ballot?

    There wasnt even a ballot.......


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    #1017
    blinding
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    but only one fuhrer leader right?
    Thats more Central Europe .


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    #1018
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    blinding wrote: »
    Thats more Central Europe .

    Hey Nigel gets his checks from there so I'm not surprised.

    The lad is a spoofer anyway.


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    #1019
    blinding
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Who is scared of a general election? The people who fearlessly want another referendum?

    At least make the semblance of sense, will you?
    Why don’t they want a General Election first ? Especially Re-mainer Tory / Labour MPs . Especially those MPs that fraudulently stole their seats by signing up to their parties Manifestos while doing the direct opposite after stealing their seats .


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    #1020
    ambro25
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    blinding wrote: »
    Very popular with the People . Great Success in Europe and the Referendum .
    Is that a Goebbels quote circa.mid to late 1930s, or your own prose?


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    #1021
    blinding
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    ambro25 wrote: »
    Is that a Goebbels quote circa.mid to late 1930s, or your own prose?
    Dangerous ground for Anti Democratic Eu-Phile Religionists .


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