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Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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    #1082
    source
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    So 92,153 Tory party members, including many people who joined just for this vote, have voted for Boris Johnson to be the next British prime minister. So he will.

    That number equals to what percentage of the adult population of the UK voting for him?

    Yes, where were we about the evil EU and its lack of democratic accountability...

    Total electorate in UK is 45,775,800 so the current PM was elected by 0.2013% of the eligible population.


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    #1083
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    source wrote: »
    Total electorate in UK is 45,775,800 so the current PM was elected by 0.2013% of the eligible population.
    Who elected Leo in Ireland ? They did not even put him before the FG membership !

    The Tories , at least had two candidates , unlike Merkel's apparatchik in the Eu .


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    #1084
    source
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    blinding wrote: »
    Why would the English stop Scotland or Northern Ireland from democratically leaving the Uk . Northern Ireland particularly is costing them a fortune hence bowel evacuation from Leo if there was a border poll .

    The SNP offered the Scots the Euro in the Independence Referendum and the Scots were horrified .

    They can't let NI go because they don't want to let Scotland go, while NI is costing them a fortune, Scotland isn't and they want the natural resources that Scotland has in spades. So they won't let Scotland leave and they can't let one go and not the other so they won't give NI the chance to vote either.


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    #1085
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    source wrote: »
    They can't let NI go because they don't want to let Scotland go, while NI is costing them a fortune, Scotland isn't and they want the natural resources that Scotland has in spades. So they won't let Scotland leave and they can't let one go and not the other so they won't give NI the chance to vote either.
    They gave Scotland a Vote , Very recently in Fact . According to the SNP , a once in a Generation Vote;)


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    #1086
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    blinding wrote: »
    Who elected Leo in Ireland ? They did not even put him before the FG membership !

    The Tories , at least had two candidates , unlike Merkel's apparatchik in the Eu .

    Again, it was a confirmation vote which could have been declined by the Parliament, and another candidate would need to be presented.

    Leo vs Boris is like comparing apples and oranges. Leo's election to head of the party wasn't in the shadow of a looming deadline which would bring the country out of the EU.


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    #1087
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    blinding wrote: »
    They gave Scotland a Vote , Very recently in Fact . According to the SNP , a once in a Generation Vote;)

    Indeed they did, and told them they wouldn't gain access to the EU as an independent country and the only way to stay in the EU was as part of the UK. Knowing full well that Scotland supports the EU. Then they pulled the rug from under them by deciding to leave the EU.


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    #1088
    blinding
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    source wrote: »
    Again, it was a confirmation vote which could have been declined by the Parliament, and another candidate would need to be presented.

    Leo vs Boris is like comparing apples and oranges. Leo's election to head of the party wasn't in the shadow of a looming deadline which would bring the country out of the EU.
    So , No Need for Democracy for Leo:eek::eek:How Eu of him .

    I suppose Merkel would have pulled another apparatchik out of her a$$ and continued until the Priests of the Eu Parliament followed orders .:eek:


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    #1089
    BarryD2
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    So 92,153 Tory party members, including many people who joined just for this vote, have voted for Boris Johnson to be the next British prime minister. So he will.

    Sounds like 'Dave the Cameraman' got about 500 votes :)

    Whatever we think about Boris, he's bound to be better than May. I was sympathetic to her at the start but really got fed up as things went on. She stood for nothing.. no clear leadership, neither Remain nor Leave. When Britain needed someone to take them one way or another, she just vacillated.

    At least with Boris, we may expect a bit of decisiveness, even if we don't care for his direction.


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    #1090
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    blinding wrote: »
    So , No Need for Democracy for Leo:eek::eek:How Eu of him .

    I suppose Merkel would have pulled another apparatchik out of her a$$ and continued until the Priests of the Eu Parliament followed orders .:eek:

    We don't select a taoiseach we select a party, same as in the UK, the point behind noting the percentage is to show the size of the population giving Boris the mandate to leave without a deal.

    Your cynicism surrounding the EU makes any kind of conversation like arguing with a 3 year old.


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    #1091
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    So 92,153 Tory party members, including many people who joined just for this vote, have voted for Boris Johnson to be the next British prime minister. So he will.

    That number equals to what percentage of the adult population of the UK voting for him?

    Yes, where were we about the evil EU and its lack of democratic accountability...

    What would you suggest is the alternative, dude? Make party leadership contests open to everyone to vote on?


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    #1092
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    source wrote: »
    Indeed they did, and told them they wouldn't gain access to the EU as an independent country and the only way to stay in the EU was as part of the UK. Knowing full well that Scotland supports the EU. Then they pulled the rug from under them by deciding to leave the EU.
    The SNP offered the Euro to the Scottish People in the Independence Referendum . The Scots told them to shove it where the sun don’t shine .

    The Scots are showing no appetite for another Independence Referendum . Too soon for another “ Once in a Generation “ referendum .

    There ain’t no great clamour in Northern Ireland for a border Poll . At least that keeps Leo’s bowels from evacuating .


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    #1093
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    What would you suggest is the alternative, dude? Make party leadership contests open to everyone to vote on?
    Like Trump in America . Bring it on .


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    #1094
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,920 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    blinding wrote: »
    The SNP offered the Euro to the Scottish People in the Independence Referendum . The Scots told them to shove it where the sun don’t shine .

    The Scots are showing no appetite for another Independence Referendum . Too soon for another “ Once in a Generation “ referendum .
    Good job rewriting the facts there!
    As for your "too soon" comment, what about all your democracy bluster?


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    #1095
    blinding
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    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Sounds like 'Dave the Cameraman' got about 500 votes :)

    Whatever we think about Boris, he's bound to be better than May. I was sympathetic to her at the start but really got fed up as things went on. She stood for nothing.. no clear leadership, neither Remain nor Leave. When Britain needed someone to take them one way or another, she just vacillated.

    At least with Boris, we may expect a bit of decisiveness, even if we don't care for his direction.
    The only thing that surrendering to the Eu gets a British Prime Minister is the boot out the door . Surely Boris and Company have worked this out .


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    #1096
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Good job rewriting the facts there!
    As for your "too soon" comment, what about all your democracy bluster?
    There is not the demand for another Independence Referendum in Scotland . If there is , then there should be one . The demand is not there as there is not the Demand for a Border Poll in Northern Ireland .


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    #1097
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,920 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    blinding wrote: »
    The only thing that surrendering to the Eu gets a British Prime Minister is the boot out the door . Surely Boris and Company have worked this out .
    How does one surrender to the EU?
    How will Boris manage to boot the EU out the door?
    Once this booting takes effect, will Boris be looking for a trade deal with the EU and how will that compare against the current free trade deal the UK currently has?
    As for Boris and company having things worked out, the evidence shows that the UK don't know what they want from a Brexit which is why they have not left.

    Your post clearly shows that you're here simply to troll.


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    #1098
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    How does one surrender to the EU?
    How will Boris manage to boot the EU out the door?
    Once this booting takes effect, will Boris be looking for a trade deal with the EU and how will that compare against the current free trade deal the UK currently has?
    As for Boris and company having things worked out, the evidence shows that the UK don't know what they want from a Brexit which is why they have not left.

    Your post clearly shows that you're here simply to troll.
    Cameron , May sacked by their own party for surrendering to the Eu .

    If you want to go back further , John Major also . You will not be the British Prime Minister if you surrender to the Eu . Advice to British Prime Ministers ; do not surrender to the Eu .


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    #1099
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,920 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    blinding wrote: »
    Cameron , May sacked by their own party for surrendering to the Eu .

    If you want to go back further , John Major also . You will not be the British Prime Minister if you surrender to the Eu . Advice to British Prime Ministers ; do not surrender to the Eu .
    Maybe English isn't your first language as your post does not answer any of my questions.
    Have another go please...
    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    How does one surrender to the EU?
    How will Boris manage to boot the EU out the door?
    Once this booting takes effect, will Boris be looking for a trade deal with the EU and how will that compare against the current free trade deal the UK currently has?
    As for Boris and company having things worked out, the evidence shows that the UK don't know what they want from a Brexit which is why they have not left.

    Your post clearly shows that you're here simply to troll.


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    #1100
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Great Congratulations from Donald Trump for Boris .

    Donald , Boris and Nigel . A Trio from the Gods .


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    #1101
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Maybe English isn't your first language as your post does not answer any of my questions.
    Have another go please...
    I explained to you that three British Prime Ministers have lost their jobs by surrendering to the Eu .

    No British Prime Minister can surrender to the Eu and keep their job .


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    #1102
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,202 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blinding wrote: »
    Great Congratulations from Donald Trump for Boris .

    Donald , Boris and Nigel . A Trio from the Gods .

    Is he sending ships to help out Boris with Iran then? You said he would.


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    #1103
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Is he sending ships to help out Boris with Iran then? You said he would.
    He texting me he was .;)


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    #1104
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,920 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    blinding wrote: »
    I explained to you that three British Prime Ministers have lost their jobs by surrendering to the Eu .

    No British Prime Minister can surrender to the Eu and keep their job .
    You're still not answering any of my simple questions.
    Can you seriously not defend your own posts?
    (maybe you are now seeing how ridiculous your posts are)
    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    How does one surrender to the EU?
    How will Boris manage to boot the EU out the door?
    Once this booting takes effect, will Boris be looking for a trade deal with the EU and how will that compare against the current free trade deal the UK currently has?
    As for Boris and company having things worked out, the evidence shows that the UK don't know what they want from a Brexit which is why they have not left.

    Your post clearly shows that you're here simply to troll.


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    #1105
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 18,174 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    blinding wrote: »
    I explained to you that three British Prime Ministers have lost their jobs by surrendering to the Eu .

    No British Prime Minister can surrender to the Eu and keep their job .

    Neither cameron or may were sacked by their own party as you claimed, they both resigned.....


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    #1106
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Neither cameron or may were sacked by their own party as you claimed, they both resigned.....
    Because they knew they could not continue after surrendering to the Eu .

    No British Prime Minister will survive in office if they surrender to the Eu .

    Cameron , May and Major all out of office after surrendering to the Eu .

    You will not be the British Prime Minister if you surrender to the Eu ; Advice , Do not surrender to the Eu .


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    #1107
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 18,174 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Sigh i should have read further back in the thread before replying, i see its like talking to a very thick wall

    Mark Francois is that you?


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    #1108
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    blinding wrote: »
    Because they knew they could not continue after surrendering to the Eu .

    No British Prime Minister will survive in office if they surrender to the Eu .

    Cameron , May and Major all out of office after surrendering to the Eu .

    You will not be the British Prime Minister if you surrender to the Eu ; Advice , Do not surrender to the Eu .

    so every PM since 1973 lost their job because of the EU?


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    #1109
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    maccored wrote: »
    so every PM since 1973 lost their job because of the EU?
    Tong Blair lost his because he Committed Treason against his Country and is a War Criminal . Gordon Brown lost his because he was fooking useless .

    Thatcher because she was gone cuckoo , poll tax and throw in some Eu .

    James Callaghan = fooking useless .


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    #1110
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    blinding wrote: »
    By that criteria then the Vote to leave the Eu must be respected . That is a very recent referendum .

    :

    Not as recent as the general election.

    Democracy , blinding. Remember ? Calling multiple general elections is undemocratic by your reasoning yet you keep saying that's what should happen.

    It's a wonder you're not inside out you do that much twisting.

    Though I expect another line kind if vaguely related to what I said followed by a few more of absolute unrelated horse****, just like the rest of them.


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    #1111
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,202 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maccored wrote: »
    so every PM since 1973 lost their job because of the EU?

    Thatcher was one of the architects of the Single Market and last time I looked she was revered in the UK by the same people fervently wanting to tell the EU to fook off.
    Blinding not making a blind bit of sense.


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