Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

Who elected Leo in Ireland ? They did not even put him before the FG membership !

The Tories , at least had two candidates , unlike Merkel's apparatchik in the Eu .

These posts dont mean what you think they mean.

You constantly give out about leo and various parts of the eu elections. Now the best you can do is compare boris Johnson's election to them?

If you think the things you're holding him up against are illegitimate, then he has to be illegitimate as well. By your own criteria.

Leo is a td. He was voted in. The government then decides who's taoiseach. Just like every other one we've had.

The eu vote was to put her in charge or not. 2 choices. The voted her in. Otherwise someone else would have been put forward.

blinding

Maggie went loco in the End . She would certainly have respected the Brexit vote if in office .

maccored

blinding wrote: »

Tong Blair lost his because he Committed Treason against his Country and is a War Criminal . Gordon Brown lost his because he was fooking useless .

Thatcher because she was gone cuckoo , poll tax and throw in some Eu .

James Callaghan = fooking useless .

and all that was the EUs fault? riiiiiiiggghhhtt ....... *moves away slowly*

blinding

maccored wrote: »

and all that was the EUs fault? riiiiiiiggghhhtt ....... *moves away slowly*

The British Prime Ministers that surrendered to the Eu were out of their jobs for doing so . Advice to British Prime Ministers ; Do not surrender to the Eu if you want to stay in your job .

pjohnson

blinding wrote: »

Maggie went loco in the End . She would certainly have respected the Brexit vote if in office .

Because she was loco?

FrancieBrady

maccored wrote: »

and all that was the EUs fault? riiiiiiiggghhhtt ....... *moves away slowly*

Don't you know maccored...you go loco if you SurRender To ThE Eu.

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

The British Prime Ministers that surrendered to the Eu were out of their jobs for doing so . Advice to British Prime Ministers ; Do not surrender to the Eu if you want to stay in your job .

You still havnt said how they surrendered to the eu.

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

So , No Need for Democracy for Leo:eek::eek:How Eu of him .
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Who voted Farage in as party leader?

JohnnyFlash

I’m old enough to remember when SF were vehemently anti-EU. Farage levels of euroskeptism.

Stevieluvsye

Boris will do a good job.

He'll give the strongest brexiteers top cabinet jobs which will get them onside when he delivers pretty much the same deal May couldn't get through.

He knows the backstop cannot and will not be amended or changed in anyway shape or form.

JohnnyFlash

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I’m old enough to remember when SF were vehemently anti-EU. Farage levels of euroskeptism.

As much as I hate Farage, it did make me smile when he quoted Mary Lou

knipex

blinding wrote: »

Because they knew they could not continue after surrendering to the Eu .

No British Prime Minister will survive in office if they surrender to the Eu .

Cameron , May and Major all out of office after surrendering to the Eu .

You will not be the British Prime Minister if you surrender to the Eu ; Advice , Do not surrender to the Eu .

How did they surrender to the EU ?? You can say they did all you like but without a reference you may as well say they were kicked out because they surrendered to the vampires..

storker

blinding wrote: »

Maggie went loco in the End . She would certainly have respected the Brexit vote if in office .

Maggie, for all her faults, was a believer in open, frictionless markets. She would never have held the referendum in the first place.

Professor Moriarty

blinding wrote: »

Maggie went loco in the End . She would certainly have respected the Brexit vote if in office .

Perhaps you mean that Thatcher suffered from dementia having developed Alzheimer's disease.

First Up

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Boris will do a good job.

He'll give the strongest brexiteers top cabinet jobs which will get them onside when he delivers pretty much the same deal May couldn't get through.

He knows the backstop cannot and will not be amended or changed in anyway shape or form.

The loudest cheer during his (quite entertaining) speech was for defeating Corbyn. That remains a far bigger priority for Tories than anything else.

He won't be able to change the WA (or Backstop), but the EU will toss him a few bones on the Political Declaration. How that goes down in the HoC or even his own party is anyone's guess; they seem to be slow learners so there might be a couple more PM's delivering the same message before it finally sinks in.

But I think he'll hunker down for at least a year before facing the electorate with anything - either a GE, a Scottish Ref or (heaven forbid) something on Northern Ireland. He has enough to worry about in Westminster to keep him busy.

Good programme on BBC4 last night about former PM's (all miserable). Boris rose to fame on TV and it may not be too long before he resumes that career.

Stevieluvsye

First Up wrote: »

The loudest cheer during his (quite entertaining) speech was for defeating Corbyn. That remains a far bigger priority for Tories than anything else.

He won't be able to change the WA (or Backstop), but the EU will toss him a few bones on the Political Declaration. How that goes down in the HoC or even his own party is anyone's guess; they seem to be slow learners so there might be a couple more PM's delivering the same message before it finally sinks in.

But I think he'll hunker down for at least a year before facing the electorate with anything - either a GE, a Scottish Ref or (heaven forbid) something on Northern Ireland. He has enough to worry about in Westminster to keep him busy.

Good programme on BBC4 last night about former PM's (all miserable). Boris rose to fame on TV and it may not be too long before he resumes that career.

I have it recorded actually to watch later.

People think Boris is one big laugh a minute joker who can't hold his piss in but he is highly intelligent, will have good advisors around him.

He'll deliver brexit (not sure how just yet) and Corbyn is his biggest ally as in he is too far left for the British public.

A centre left alliance of Lib Dems and few other parties could be his biggest threat.

The support for the Brexit party should subside now a Brexiteer is leading the country

First Up

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I have it recorded actually to watch later.

People think Boris is one big laugh a minute joker who can't hold his piss in but he is highly intelligent, will have good advisors around him.

He'll deliver brexit (not sure how just yet) and Corbyn is his biggest ally as in he is too far left for the British public.

A centre left alliance of Lib Dems and few other parties could be his biggest threat.

The support for the Brexit party should subside now a Brexiteer is leading the country

Stealing Farage's thunder was part of the rationale for choosing him alright but I'm not so sure about the good advisors after the kipper farce. If he tries that sort of nonsense with the EU he'll be handed his hat, coat (and head) in double quick time.

Stevieluvsye

First Up wrote: »

Stealing Farage's thunder was part of the rationale for choosing him alright but I'm not so sure about the good advisors after the kipper farce. If he tries that sort of nonsense with the EU he'll be handed his hat, coat (and head) in double quick time.

Macron and the Rutte certainly won't take any bullsh!t and i'm presuming either will Merkle

I'd be very surprised if there is a no deal

First Up

Stevieluvsye wrote:

I'd be very surprised if there is a no deal

It will be fun to watch.

source

source wrote: »

Total electorate in UK is 45,775,800 so the current PM was elected by 0.2013% of the eligible population.

This. Most important sentence of the thread, especially when those Brexit comedians complain about how "undemocratic" the EU is.

blinding

Deleted User wrote: »

This. Most important sentence of the thread, especially when those Brexit comedians complain about how "undemocratic" the EU is.

Leo didn’t even face the Fg electorate .

Spanish Eyes

I could be wrong, but what if Johnson approached the EU about softening May's red lines, and putting the border in the Irish Sea (feck the DUP)?

No backstop, no hard border. Just a thought on this mad day of mad dogs.

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

Leo didn’t even face the Fg electorate .

Who elected Farage as party leader?

blinding

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Who elected Farage as party leader?

Not the Fg Membership but they didn’t elect Leo either !:eek:

Laois_Man

blinding wrote: »

Who elected Leo in Ireland ? They did not even put him before the FG membership !

The Tories , at least had two candidates , unlike Merkel's apparatchik in the Eu .

What are you talking about? The FG leadership contest was Varadkar versus Coveney!

You keep doing this - yesterday you claimed Ursula von der Leyen was the only candidate in the European commission president race

You are utterly clueless!

blinding wrote: »

Cameron , May sacked by their own party for surrendering to the Eu .

If you want to go back further , John Major also . You will not be the British Prime Minister if you surrender to the Eu . Advice to British Prime Ministers ; do not surrender to the Eu .

WTF - John Major lost an Election to a more pro-EU party than the conservatives!
Cameron giving the UK a Brexit referendum was the exact opposite of what the EU wanted
May's red lines and invking of article 50 were the exact opposites of what the EU wanted her to do

Absolutely cluelss!

blinding

Laois_Man wrote: »

What are you talking about? The FG leadership contest was Varadkar versus Coveney!

You keep doing this - yesterday you claimed Ursula von der Leyen was the only candidate in the European commission president race

There was only one candidate for the Priests of the Eu Parliament to nod through . One that Merkel pulled out of her ar$e .

Laois_Man wrote: »

WTF - John Major lost an Election to a more pro-EU party than the conservatives!
Cameron giving the UK a Brexit referendum was the exact opposite of what the EU wanted
May's red lines and invking of article 50 were the exact opposites of what the EU wanted her to do

Major's position was completely undermined by his surrenders to the Eu .

If Boris does not take Britain out of the Eu by the 31st of October he will be the next British Prime Minister to lose his job for surrendering to the Eu .

No British Prime Minister survives surrendering to the Eu . Surely the lesson is learnt .

Laois_Man

blinding wrote: »

There was only one candidate for the Priests of the Eu Parliament to nod through . One that Merkel pulled out of her ar$e .

von der Leyen was the 4th proposal for European commission president after Manfred Weber , Timmermans and Vestagerin in an EU summit that went 2 days over schedule you absolute tool!

blinding wrote: »

Major's position was completely undermined by his surrenders to the Eu .

If Boris does not take Britain out of the Eu by the 31st of October he will be the next British Prime Minister to lose his job for surrendering to the Eu .

No British Prime Minister survives surrendering to the Eu . Surely the lesson is learnt .

Major resigned because he was hammered in the 1997 General Election by Tony Blair's new Labour who had more EU friendly polices than John Major did!

blinding

Laois_Man wrote: »

von der Leyen was the 4th proposal for European commission president after Manfred Weber , Timmermans and Vestagerin in an EU summit that went 2 days over schedule

There was only one candidate put before the Priests of the Eu Parliament . They nodded her through even though Merkel had just pulled her out of her ar$e a few days earlier . :eek:

Laois_Man wrote: »

Major resigned because he was hammered in the 1997 General Election by Tony Blair's new Labour who had more EU friendly polices than John Major did!

Majors time as Prime Minister was destroyed by his surrenders to the Eu .

No British Prime Minister can survive surrendering to the Eu .

Boris will take Britain out of the Eu by 31st of October or he will go the same way .

There may be a General Election before then .

TheValeyard

I'd say reality of the catastrafcuk he helped create will slowly begin to dawn on him, that he has led his nation down a dead end and all the vague unicorn promises and dreams will never be fulfilled.

blinding

Respect for Democracy demands that Brexit happens .

Democracy is way more important than the Eu . Look at Hong Kong now and see what happens when there is no respect for democracy .

Respect Democracy and the Freedom that goes with it .