Random EV thoughts.....

MJohnston

Kramer wrote: »

You'll blow a gasket then if you ever end up behind me as I have a perverse penchant for hypermiling .

Leaf speed is hypersonic compared to how I move off from red lights .

Do you continually edge forward past the stop line while the lights are red and then wait 1/2 seconds after they finally turn green to drive?

Kramer

MJohnston wrote: »

Do you continually edge forward past the stop line while the lights are red and then wait 1/2 seconds after they finally turn green to drive?

Ahhh, so you have been behind me already then :pac:.

unkel

Kramer wrote: »

You'll blow a gasket then if you ever end up behind me as I have a perverse penchant for hypermiling .

Leaf speed is hypersonic compared to how I move off from red lights .

Why on earth would you spend big money on a BMW and then drive like that???

liamog

unkel wrote: »

Why on earth would you spend big money on a BMW and then drive like that???

I thought the job of a BMW driver was to do as many things wrong as possible on the road to ensure other drivers notice them!

unkel

Dunno. I was always very well behaved in my BMWs. I indicated and all. As long as people stayed the fook out of the BMW lane on motorways or any dual carriageways really

(and I'm far worse in my current non-BMW car )

Kramer

unkel wrote: »

Why on earth would you spend big money on a BMW and then drive like that???

I'm saving polar bears & penguins unkel, it's my mission to save the planet .

unkel

Kramer wrote: »

I'm saving polar bears & penguins unkel, it's my mission to save the planet .

Stop using the BMW, buy an EV and drive the bejaysus out of it. That's how you save the planet

(Might need to install a few dozen PV panels as well and stop flying intercontinental)

ELM327

tom1ie wrote: »

Just wondering but why?

Safety concerns.

obi604 wrote: »

Sorry for the ignorance but would the Tesla not do the bulk of that driving with a couple of quick charges?

Or no fast chargers on route is it.

NCT was out, my appt in Sandyford was delayed and I had a medical appointment in Cork. Didnt fancy driving a car with no NCT through all the checkpoints.
Rental car cost me 60 quid for 3 days. Fuel was 40 quid and tolls were (cough cough) the same as if I were driving an EV.
Charging the Tesla would cost a fiver overnight plus 25 quid en route so 70 quid extra for a road legal car in the current environment was worth it.


I've done the trip a few times (this was a post surgery followup) in the Tesla and it was great compared to the skoda. I was so tired after having to manually drive 6.5 hours on the motorway.


It actually took the same time as it would have in the Tesla. We had 2 checkpoints and one 30 min stop for coffee/lunch.

Laviski

Over the next few years I can the thieves moving from robbing converters from cars and just start removing charge points from houses, easiest few hundred quick they will mean selling on 2nd hand. Having an ability to cut the power is just an open invitation.....

obi604

ELM327 wrote: »

Safety concerns.





NCT was out, my appt in Sandyford was delayed and I had a medical appointment in Cork. Didnt fancy driving a car with no NCT through all the checkpoints.
Rental car cost me 60 quid for 3 days. Fuel was 40 quid and tolls were (cough cough) the same as if I were driving an EV.
Charging the Tesla would cost a fiver overnight plus 25 quid en route so 70 quid extra for a road legal car in the current environment was worth it.


I've done the trip a few times (this was a post surgery followup) in the Tesla and it was great compared to the skoda. I was so tired after having to manually drive 6.5 hours on the motorway.


It actually took the same time as it would have in the Tesla. We had 2 checkpoints and one 30 min stop for coffee/lunch.

Ah ok. Didn’t mean to pry etc.

I suppose personally that would annoy me. Having a very expensive car.......and then having to rent another inferior car to do a journey.

ELM327

It annoyed me too! But it was unavoidable, I wasnt prepared to drive with no NCT. I spent way too long in my misspent youth dodging checkpoints as I had no tax/nct and/or Green Diesel and Kerosene in the tank :P

unkel

No NCT is no problem if you have proof of appointment with you. No Garda in the country will have a problem with that. Many people were delayed getting an NCT. Tried to book mine in as soon as I had the car registered (March 2020), but the NCT was closed then because of lockdown. Booked it in the first day they were open and got my appointment for end of October

Unless of course your car is not road legal. Then you should not drive it. I guess this was the case here, worn tyres? This has nothing to do with Tesla of course. Very bad idea to have your tyres replaced in any main dealer anyway. Worse job (as not done by specialists) and costing more.

Laviski

Laviski wrote: »

Over the next few years I can the thieves moving from robbing converters from cars and just start removing charge points from houses, easiest few hundred quick they will mean selling on 2nd hand. Having an ability to cut the power is just an open invitation.....

I heard that on a report during the week but I can't remember where. The cost of stolen cables and charge points will become an issue for insurance. At the moment there is no market down the Pub or on adverts.ie for used charging cables but once the market it there your cable will become a tradeable commodity for people with no scruples.
It'll probably get to the stage where you leave your cable at home somewhere safe if you know you won't be needing it on your trip.

liamog

Laviski wrote: »

Over the next few years I can the thieves moving from robbing converters from cars and just start removing charge points from houses, easiest few hundred quick they will mean selling on 2nd hand. Having an ability to cut the power is just an open invitation.....

I don't really see this as much of a problem at all, generally you get a charge cable with the car, so there is going to be a very small market, if any, for second hand models. In most cases the charge cables lock to the car so it's going to be hard to remove them.

Kramer

liamog wrote: »

In most cases the charge cables lock to the car so it's going to be hard to remove them.

Catalytic converters tend to be locked to their cars too & are infinitely more difficult to remove - doesn't stop them being stolen :eek:.
Scumbags wouldn't care if they had to burn the cables for scrap & the copper wire netted them a fiver.

KCross

liamog wrote: »

I don't really see this as much of a problem at all, generally you get a charge cable with the car, so there is going to be a very small market, if any, for second hand models. In most cases the charge cables lock to the car so it's going to be hard to remove them.

He is referring to the charge point rather than the cable.

A charge point worth €800 that can be electrically isolated right next to it and unhooked in minutes with a basic screwdriver is an easy win for a scumbag.

Laviski

KCross wrote: »

He is referring to the charge point rather than the cable.

A charge point worth €800 that can be electrically isolated right next to it and unhooked in minutes with a basic screwdriver is an easy win for a scumbag.

This
Why go for cable when you can go for unit.... Also I meant to post this on the other thread. That what you get for posting on mobile.

slave1

Methinks I’ll be yanking my isolator off when grant comes through

unkel

LOL yeah the recent requirement of an outside AC disconnect is ridiculous when you already have an RCBO within centimeters of it on the inside of your house. Thankfully I had my charge point installed (for free) back in early 2017. It's a nice stealth install behind a rain gutter. Not visible from the public road. Installed to perfection by Nigel Daly.

Water John

EV is moving through industry. Whilst forklifts have long had a battery option, now there's a telehandler that can operate for 8 hours:
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/clean-and-green-merlo-unveils-electric-e-worker-telehandler/

JohnC.

On a similar subject, there was something in the Irish Times about Sisk adding more electric. Already apparently offering a larger range of EV than ICE in their fleet of cars and now in discussion with manufacturers for electric or hydrogen heavy machinery.

DrPhilG

Anyone tempted to leave the isolator there but not actually connected?

So they think the power is off.....

timsey tiger

DrPhilG wrote: »

Anyone tempted to leave the isolator there but not actually connected?

So they think the power is off.....

That is how you end up in jail.

Cyrus

I presume it’s an easy enough job for an electrician to remove the isolator if one was that way minded ?

Laviski

unkel wrote: »

Thankfully I had my charge point installed (for free) back in early 2017. It's a nice stealth install behind a rain gutter. Not visible from the public road. Installed to perfection by Nigel Daly.

When they are scouting and see an electric car in driveway be it connected or not, they would assume a charge point is installed. From reading on here most that can install have or planning to do it.

Personally i haven't yet but I won't be if I'm forced to have an isolator, would suffice with a outdoor socket and granny charge.

graememk

A good pair of insulated snips would be no issues cutting a live wire.

Take off cover, snip the wires and off you go.

Or just jump the neutral to earth and that would trigger the rcbo too, and the power is cut.

Silent Running

graememk wrote: »

A good pair of insulated snips would be no issues cutting a live wire.

Take off cover, snip the wires and off you go.

Or just jump the neutral to earth and that would trigger the rcbo too, and the power is cut.

While I agree, maybe we shouldn't be making it easy for the scum. We shouldn't post tips here.

Laviski

Laviski wrote: »

When they are scouting and see an electric car in driveway be it connected or not, they would assume a charge point is installed. From reading on here most that can install have or planning to do it.

Personally i haven't yet but I won't be if I'm forced to have an isolator, would suffice with a outdoor socket and granny charge.

I've been thinking the same way in recent weeks. Something like a Zoe 22 or Twingo doesn't really need a fast charger at home.
Marketing message from Renault is mixed in that they supplied the Granny cable with the Zoe 22 but for Zoe 40 it changed to "intended only for charging in emergency circumstances".
I'd live with the inefficiency of the granny cable on one of these vehicles (or a leaf 24)rather than the large cash outlay for a wall box in Ireland. Casual crime isn't an issue where I live abroad.

Black_Knight

Electrician put an isolator switch on oursc before installing it, then noticed the rolec came with an rcbo on it, so was happy to remove it. Ended up installing the unit at the side our house anyways, behind a down pipe.

Interesting point about the isolator switch and thieves though.

fanzhiyidan

Hi all,

my wife is being offered a company car through work and is considering an electric.
Few questions that maybe you have come across before:

Benefit-In-Kind: exemptions are is due to expire in December 2021, does this mean that BIK will apply to all electric cars from that date or would electric cars that are purchased before December 2021 still be eligible after that but cars purchased after this date would have to start paying BIK?
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[/LIST] Has anyone done some comparisons on whether it is financially better to buy a diesel/petrol/hybrid or an electric....similar model car.
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[/LIST] does anyone know when the Skoda Enyaq or the Volkswagen ID4 are available in Ireland and what the RRP is going to be.

Thanks all.