Random EV thoughts.....

MJohnston

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

The ESB should be full speed ahead now

Well, in fairness, I don't think the ESB can be doing anything specifically right now, under Level 5.

NIMAN

MJohnston wrote: »

Well, in fairness, I don't think the ESB can be doing anything specifically right now, under Level 5.

They could surely, it would be classed as essential work.

MJohnston

NIMAN wrote: »

They could surely, it would be classed as essential work.

Maybe, that would be untrue though.

AndyBoBandy

MJohnston wrote: »

Well, in fairness, I don't think the ESB can be doing anything specifically right now, under Level 5.

Critical infrastructure can be installed/maintained during Level 5.

Now is exactly when they should be doing it, when things are relatively quiet..

AndyBoBandy

MJohnston wrote: »

Maybe, that would be untrue though.

It would be 100% legitimate to be installing charging infrastructure during Level 5.

If the lads are still out doing the fibre upgrades (which they are), then installing/upgrading EV charging infrastructure is perfectly deemed as essential.

garo

garo wrote: »

Bit late to this but I think this is completely off the mark. I was first turned on to EVs when I got into a leaf taxi in May 2019. Until then I too believed the usual guff about lack of range, batteries not good enough etc. I told the driver i was thinking hybrid and he said why would you? Why have two drivetrains and double the number of things that can go wrong. Well not double he said because the electric drivetrain is vastly superior and much less (read zero) maintenance. His Leaf was a year old at that point and he said he got > 250km range. Most days he drove 150-180km. 225 on the outside. Charger at home and at night rate it was €2 worth of charging every night. He had saved loads on petrol in the year. Down from 6000 to 600. Most urban taxi drivers drive under 250km a day and don’t need expensive fast charging.

And who drives 100km each way to start their taxi work? Maybe 5% of taxi drivers of even. Fine they can stick to PHEV or even ICE. But for the vast majority even a Leaf would do just fine. Airport taxis that do long journeys are a minority.

So why are the "miserable" taxi drivers all still not in batttery cars?

the_amazing_raisin

MJohnston wrote: »

Maybe, that would be untrue though.

Workers are currently installing a fuel line from Dublin port to Dublin airport to carry fuel to aircraft which are largely grounded and unlikely to be flying for a year at least

If that's essential then installing fast chargers easily counts

MJohnston

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

It would be 100% legitimate to be installing charging infrastructure during Level 5.

If the lads are still out doing the fibre upgrades (which they are), then installing/upgrading EV charging infrastructure is perfectly deemed as essential.

Sorry, it’s just not essential or critical imo. It can wait. No need to risk the lives of some ESB workers for a few extra months of fast chargers.

MJohnston

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Workers are currently installing a fuel line from Dublin port to Dublin airport to carry fuel to aircraft which are largely grounded and unlikely to be flying for a year at least

If that's essential then installing fast chargers easily counts

Doesn’t sound essential to me either.

Aph2016

MJohnston wrote: »

Sorry, it’s just not essential or critical imo. It can wait. No need to risk the lives of some ESB workers for a few extra months of fast chargers.

Risk the lives, come off it with that hyperbole.

markpb

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Once a sort of normal resumes (and probably not even this year, but next year maybe), there are going to be a lot of folk driving around in their new 2020/2021 EV's who will suddenly find out how woefully inadequate our public charging infrastructure is...

I think this year could be quite bad. When restrictions are lifted (or begin to be lifted), people will want to see their friends and family that they may not have seen in 15 months. People will want to take a break from their houses (and maybe their immediate family!) and they won't be able to go on foreign holidays. All of this will mean large numbers of people travelling around the country, possibly more than in a normal year.

the_amazing_raisin

MJohnston wrote: »

Doesn’t sound essential to me either.

Nor to me, and yet work proceeds

I agree that the definition of essential projects seems a bit warped, however it is what it is.

Compared to a large housing development, smaller infrastructure projects are probably safer, fewer people and outdoors

MJohnston

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Nor to me, and yet work proceeds

I agree that the definition of essential projects seems a bit warped, however it is what it is.

Compared to a large housing development, smaller infrastructure projects are probably safer, fewer people and outdoors

The fuel pipeline probably has economic prospects that the government sees as an offset to the risk. Not sure I agree, but that’s probably what it is.

I doubt either FF or FG see electric vehicles as any kind of essential part of their Ireland.

MJohnston

Aph2016 wrote: »

Risk the lives, come off it with that hyperbole.

It is a risk, like it or not. It can be a small one, but it’s still a risk.

the_amazing_raisin

MJohnston wrote: »

The fuel pipeline probably has economic prospects that the government sees as an offset to the risk. Not sure I agree, but that’s probably what it is.

I doubt either FF or FG see electric vehicles as any kind of essential part of their Ireland.

Regrettably I think you're correct

timsey tiger

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Workers are currently installing a fuel line from Dublin port to Dublin airport to carry fuel to aircraft which are largely grounded and unlikely to be flying for a year at least

If that's essential then installing fast chargers easily counts

I don't know, how much disruption it is causing?

Markcheese

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Workers are currently installing a fuel line from Dublin port to Dublin airport to carry fuel to aircraft which are largely grounded and unlikely to be flying for a year at least

If that's essential then installing fast chargers easily counts

Probably makes a lot of sense to crack on with the pipeline , road traffic levels will probably never be lower , so minimum of road disturbance..

AndyBoBandy

Markcheese wrote: »

Probably makes a lot of sense to crack on with the pipeline , road traffic levels will probably never be lower , so minimum of road disturbance..

Likewise with charging infrastructure, and motorway hubs....

the_amazing_raisin

timsey tiger wrote: »

I don't know, how much disruption it is causing?

Probably about the same as installing chargers, hence my original point that if a fuel pipeline can be considered essential given it isn't needed, then surely EV chargers are also classed as essential given there is an immediate need for them

unkel

Deleted User wrote: »

The 95g/km E.U. regulations are forcing manufacturers to innovate, not Tesla.

Innovate at a snail's pace? PHEV and even some smaller "self charging hybrids" :rolleyes: can easily make the cut. The 95g/km CO2 is a figure that can easily be cheated on and has no bearing on real life figures. WLTP test only barely touches on the motorway speed and has no reflection whatsoever of congested city driving.

Thankfully some manufacturers have finally seen the light and are going full out with BEV only cars moving forward. Obviously VAG is number one on that list of followers

Kramer

The SEAI must be spending big bucks on advertising/sponsoring these days - I've probably seen 5 or 6 "lifestyle" advertisements articles over the last week or so, in the mainstream media/publications.

This one:

https://www.thejournal.ie/electric-vehicle-ireland-5348943-Feb2021/

Is that Simon Acton the Dublin EV car dealer? It's probably just a coincidence - the advertisement article doesn't mention he is in the industry .

innrain

Simon is the Chair of the IEOVA. But probably you knew that

Kramer

innrain wrote: »

Simon is the Chair of the IEOVA. But probably you knew that

Nope, no clue. I just recognised the name as being an EV dealer, like Phil Fitz etc.

Whatever he does in his spare time is his own business :P.

AndyBoBandy

Every time I'm driving behind one of those Toyota Self Charging Hybrids,

I always see smoke coming out of the exhaust pipe!!

ELM327

They are actively self charging :P

Kramer

Interesting video on pumped hydro...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSgd-QhLHRI

timsey tiger

Kramer wrote: »

Interesting video on pumped hydro...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSgd-QhLHRI

Pity he doesn't do one on liquid air storage.

The Black Oil

Enjoyed Bjorn's series with the Mercedes MQV. First time I've watched one of his 1,000 km challenges. He's a mad fella.

graememk

timsey tiger wrote: »

Pity he doesn't do one on liquid air storage.

Give the man time! he's working through quite a few different techs

Kramer

Not sure I'd agree with the headline - "sharp rise" :eek:.
90 odd more BEVs registered this year over last year.

That's what, less than 4 per county. Hardly indicates a sharp rise, due to the "new tax scheme" :rolleyes:.

Sharp Rise in EV sales - Independent

Yes, a 10% increase, but 10% of a tiny amount.