Dublin Murders - BBC One & RTE One

Stevieluvsye

Sean Billions Cowhide wrote: »

Who or what exactly is Nidge in this show, is he a Garda of some sort? He's made comments that suggest he isn't but then what else is he?

A detective. Bit of a rogue detective i'd say

Ash.J.Williams

Sean Billions Cowhide wrote: »

Who or what exactly is Nidge in this show, is he a Garda of some sort? He's made comments that suggest he isn't but then what else is he?

seriously???

Ash.J.Williams

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

Dreadful filler, going nowhere episode last night. The 4 odd friends of Lexie just don't add anything....

they're not there for the craic, obviously they're adding something in the future

Declan A Walsh

Further to the queries about the Tom Vaughan-Lawlor character Frank (Nidge in Love Hate), I'm fairly certain he is playing the part of an undercover Garda Detective Sergeant. It already had been intimated earlier in the series that Alex had worked for him before, in an undercover capacity, using the same name of Lexi, which she had chosen. This, of course, was the name of her imaginary sister that she deployed after the death of her parents.

extra gravy

Declan A Walsh wrote: »

Further to the queries about the Tom Vaughan-Lawlor character Frank (Nidge in Love Hate), I'm fairly certain he is playing the part of an undercover Garda Detective Sergeant. It already had been intimated earlier in the series that Alex had worked for him before, in an undercover capacity, using the same name of Lexi, which she had chosen. This, of course, was the name of her imaginary sister that she deployed after the death of her parents.

All of this is obvious... Do people be on their phones when they're watching or what?

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extra gravy wrote: »

All of this is obvious... Do people be on their phones when they're watching or what?

Definitely isn't obvious...show is very purposely hard to figure out.

Seems strange a detective is breaking into people's houses...especially when his character doesn't look like a typical sergeant.

wench

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Definitely isn't obvious...show is very purposely hard to figure out.

Seems strange a detective is breaking into people's houses...especially when his character doesn't look like a typical sergeant.

He's running an undercover unit, not looking like a Garda is sort of the point!


The first couple of eps he was set up to look shifty/criminal, but since about ep 3 it's been obvious what's going on with him.

Happy4all

Miley Byrne's love thing hasn't aged too well.

Professor Genius

This better not end like that Amber crap a few years back

HeidiHeidi

Happy4all wrote: »

Miley Byrne's love thing hasn't aged too well.

I thought of it as "what a great job make-up did on her"!


I somehow doubt that's her real look.....



(if that was sarcasm/irony, it was a bit subtle for me!)

PTH2009

Is going to turn out like this

a Rob (demented what he saw as adam) actually murdered Katy Devlin as a drunken/drugged type of revenge murder

hatrickpatrick

Why are Adam and Cassie so intensely hostile towards eachother since they hooked up? I can't figure that out at all, it seems like they slept together and Adam suddenly went all "f*ck you, I don't like you now" without any context or reason behind the sudden change of character? Did I miss something obvious or is this just a classic "friends sleeping together leading to drama for no real reason" TV trope?

Stevieluvsye

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why are Adam and Cassie so intensely hostile towards eachother since they hooked up? I can't figure that out at all, it seems like they slept together and Adam suddenly went all "f*ck you, I don't like you now" without any context or reason behind the sudden change of character? Did I miss something obvious or is this just a classic "friends sleeping together leading to drama for no real reason" TV trope?

He has/had issues, he broke down in the last episode and now wants Cassie back

loveisdivine

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Yeah, there's a whole supernatural/weird thing going on with this series which I don't like, but I don't mind too much.

Is there? I don't really get any supernatural vibes.

I know some people in my job were moaning because they thought it was being suggested that ghosts were involved because of the laughing in the woods. Which frankly I think is a bit of a leap. The laughing in the woods, shots of Cassies imaginary friend being left behind in the house, the wolf etc all seem to me to just be either metaphorical (imaginary friend) or hallucinations (wolf).

Bredabe

Are those pregnancy tests positive or not?, I cant see any results on the sticks.

Seamai

Sean Billions Cowhide wrote: »

Who or what exactly is Nidge in this show, is he a Garda of some sort? He's made comments that suggest he isn't but then what else is he?

His character is getting on my tits but then they all pretty much are.

iamwhoiam

Bredabe wrote: »

Are those pregnancy tests positive or not?, I cant see any results on the sticks.

The last one Lexie ( Cassie ) did had a green tick ✅ at the word pregnant

hatrickpatrick

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

He has/had issues, he broke down in the last episode and now wants Cassie back

I got that, but why the hostility in the first place? It's like a switch flipped after they had sex and suddenly they despised eachother, which IMO is an incredibly boring and overused TV cliche unless there's something more to it than I'm remembering.

Still Ill

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I got that, but why the hostility in the first place? It's like a switch flipped after they had sex and suddenly they despised eachother, which IMO is an incredibly boring and overused TV cliche unless there's something more to it than I'm remembering.

Think he's afraid to get close to anyone after what happened to his friends all those years ago. Or sumthin.

riddles

Sorry I started on this show - I know why they are showing two episodes back to back no way it would keep people on a eight week hourly schedule. Its complete nonsense disappointed I didnt wait for the reviews before watching it

Declan A Walsh

riddles wrote: »

Sorry I started on this show - I know why they are showing two episodes back to back no way it would keep people on a eight week hourly schedule. Its complete nonsense disappointed I didnt wait for the reviews before watching it

That's a confusing statement. BBC1 show an hourly episode on Monday and another one on Tuesday. RTE1 are showing two episodes back to back, which is two hours! If it is eight episodes, that will take four weeks!

Garibaldi?

When is it repeated on tv. I missed it and the Player is a pain in the neck. ☺

pm1977x

Declan A Walsh wrote: »

That's a confusing statement. BBC1 show an hourly episode on Monday and another one on Tuesday. RTE1 are showing two episodes back to back, which is two hours! If it is eight episodes, that will take four weeks!

It's a VERY odd piece of scheduling for a TV drama and as the other poster says it's a sign that the broadcaster has no faith in the show and wants to clear it off the schedule ASAP.

FixdePitchmark

Pissed off, looked good, but this crazy lexie or whoever undercover is such nonsense.

Then in some other bizarre twist she has an imaginary alter existence that seems to match her real undercover alter ego.

Like am I misunderstanding something?

That is the theory of show?

Like what the........ F

Scooby Doo on smack.

Galwayguy35

Garibaldi? wrote: »

When is it repeated on tv. I missed it and the Player is a pain in the neck. ☺

Think it's repeated either tomorrow or sunday

riddles

I think we all know there’s no possible outcome that’ll justify what we had to watch. Thank god for sky plus and zinging forward.

Bredabe

Still Ill wrote: »

Think he's afraid to get close to anyone after what happened to his friends all those years ago. Or sumthin.

His behaviour is im told 'romantic', love conquering all and all that.

Strazdas

Bredabe wrote: »

His behaviour is im told 'romantic', love conquering all and all that.

He strikes me as a bit callous in the way he treats women. The way he spoke to Cassie the day after he slept with her and taunted her about 'Lexie' was very cold.

Still Ill

Bit of a plot hole that he didn't get rock hard that time he made Rosalind cry.

She was looking well too tbf before she immediately changed back to her frumpy clothes.

Strazdas

Still Ill wrote: »

Bit of a plot hole that he didn't get rock hard that time he made Rosalind cry.

She was looking well too tbf before she immediately changed back to her frumpy clothes.

In his defence, he has behaved decently with Rosalind at all times at least.

He's not as nice with Cassie and Heather (his housemate / gf)

Ralphyroo

I downloaded this on rte player on the sky box to watch Wednesday's episode and it only seems to be 58 minutes long. Is there another episode not on the player?

Strazdas

Ralphyroo wrote: »

I downloaded this on rte player on the sky box to watch Wednesday's episode and it only seems to be 58 minutes long. Is there another episode not on the player?

It sounds like you've downloaded only one episode : you're looking for Episodes 5 and 6 (they are listed separately on RTE Player).

dominatinMC

riddles wrote: »

I think we all know there’s no possible outcome that’ll justify what we had to watch. Thank god for sky plus and zinging forward.

It's hardly that bad, is it?!

I can't understand a lot of the criticism it's getting online. I scrolled through Twitter the other night and noticed a lot of negative commentary. Most of which was to do with the convoluted and complicated plot. TBH, I attributed most of that to peoples inability to put down their phone and actually concentrate on the show, rather than glancing up at it every so often from their phone screen.

nannerby

dominatinMC wrote: »

It's hardly that bad, is it?!

I can't understand a lot of the criticism it's getting online. I scrolled through Twitter the other night and noticed a lot of negative commentary. Most of which was to do with the convoluted and complicated plot. TBH, I attributed most of that to peoples inability to put down their phone and actually concentrate on the show, rather than glancing up at it every so often from their phone screen.

yes ive found it easy enough to follow don't know how ppl are confused.ppl actually asking is Franks character an undercover guard wtf.

OneOfThem Stumbled

dominatinMC wrote: »

It's hardly that bad, is it?!

I can't understand a lot of the criticism it's getting online. I scrolled through Twitter the other night and noticed a lot of negative commentary. Most of which was to do with the convoluted and complicated plot. TBH, I attributed most of that to peoples inability to put down their phone and actually concentrate on the show, rather than glancing up at it every so often from their phone screen.

Tbh I don't think it's great. I liked the first episode, but I quickly lost my suspension of disbelief.

The plot is about the murder of a girl in Wicklow. Nope, it's about whatever happened to Adam and his friends, back in the 80s.

I assumed there wasn't much of a connection between Adam and the murdered girl at first, but as the show made it increasingly clear that there was supposed to be - though other than general location I don't see how - the more the entire premise seemed to just fall to bits.

This cop just happens to be given this case? His supervisors just happen to not know that he connected with this case? As the case develops nobody makes the connection between Adam and Adam?

You've got Nidge doing some stuff, and a mad guy with paint, and all the while nobody seems all that interested in solving the case about the dead girl. Were her movements tracked? Who was she communicating with online? Who last saw her alive? Would she have passed anywhere with CCTV? What did forensics say, was there any fibres or other trace particles which may be significant? I didn't hear anybody talk about any of this. Maybe they did in later episodes but by then I had lost patience.

Professor Genius

That knocknaree town is filmed in Northern Ireland ?

Strazdas

Professor Genius wrote: »

That knocknaree town is filmed in Northern Ireland ?

Yes, I think the small town stuff and the forest is NI and the more obvious city scenes are Dublin for real.

FixdePitchmark

nannerby wrote: »

yes ive found it easy enough to follow don't know how ppl are confused.ppl actually asking is Franks character an undercover guard wtf.

Ive never looked at phone.

Its completely unrealistic and convoluted.

Anyone trying to suggest otherwise, is trying to act more clever than they are.

strandroad

Professor Genius wrote: »

That knocknaree town is filmed in Northern Ireland ?

I think so, the houses and the school look off. There's a scene in the ballet room with the camera circling the characters and you can see some high rise buildings through the windows.

strandroad

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Pissed off, looked good, but this crazy lexie or whoever undercover is such nonsense.

Then in some other bizarre twist she has an imaginary alter existence that seems to match her real undercover alter ego.

Like am I misunderstanding something?

That is the theory of show?

Like what the........ F

Scooby Doo on smack.

They needed to create a fake identity for Cassie to go under.
She named her Lexie after her imaginary twin as an inside joke.
They paused the identity once they got the criminal she spied on; the excuse was that she moved abroad.
A grifter looking like Cassie showed up in town and claimed the Lexie identity as her own once people started "recognising" her.
Word got to Frank so he suspected Cassie revived Lexie for whatever reason hence his skulking around her place.
Grifter Lexie is killed.

extra gravy

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Ive never looked at phone.

Its completely unrealistic and convoluted.

Anyone trying to suggest otherwise, is trying to act more clever than they are.

Ah would you give over, it's not War and Peace you're watching. Just because other people can follow it and you can't doesn't mean they're acting clever.

Living Off The Splash

strandroad wrote: »

I think so, the houses and the school look off.

The row of houses is at Blackrock, Dublin, sea front. In episode one there was a scene where two characters were drinking tea and having a sandwich or something that looked like the old Blackrock baths.

strandroad

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

The row of houses is at Blackrock, Dublin, sea front. In episode one there was a scene where two characters were drinking tea and having a sandwich or something that looked like the old Blackrock baths.

Not Blackrock, the "Knocknaree" village.

hatrickpatrick

The mistake they made with this show was merging two completely separate books with two separate storylines into one TV show. And I have a theory as to why (haven't read the books so this is just a guess):

Thinking back to the first episode and Cassie telling Adam "we won't see eachother again", it's fairly obvious that this was a flash forward to a conversation which takes place after the Knocknarea storyline is wrapped up. I'm starting to think that Adam is not a main character going forward after book one - whatever happens at the end of Into The Woods severs the connection between himself and Cassie, maybe he even gets caught and arrested for the various illegal things he's done in this investigation - and therefore that he is not in book two, The Likeness, at all. In that scenario, it makes sense that they'd merge the two stories into one so they could have the dynamic and chemistry between the actor and actress who play Adam and Cassie respectively. Furthermore, it very much seems to me that The Likeness probably just isn't as good a story, so they merged them together so that people would stick around for the Knocknarea storyline even if they found the Likeness storyline to be too far fetched.

That's my theory anyway. I feel it's very likely that Adam's character doesn't appear at all after book one, but they wanted him in the show for longer because Killian Scott is a terrific actor and has great on-screen chemistry with Sarah Green.

We'll find out on Wednesday one way or another! But even if my theory is correct, I still feel it was a mistake to merge the two stories together, it would be far, far better if they focused on one or the other, or even did an eight episode show where one mystery ends midway through and the second one begins.

OU812

Absolute mistake to merge the two books.

I have read them and the likeness is easily the most accessible of them. Can’t remember if your speculation is correct though. In the woods is probably the least accessible as it has undertones of supernatural events.

If they’d filmed them out of order they probably would have got them all done, but as it stands, I can’t see them getting a second season.

Each book centres of a different detective (who all have something suspect in their own personal background. The other characters drift in and out as secondary characters. Timeframe isn’t fluid so some of the investigations are going on at the same time.

Seamai

I've heard note than one person commenting on the fact it was obvious that the BBC were involved in DM as it was so slick but I'd disagree, Sarah Phelps has made a complete dogs dinner in merging the two books and Cassie masquerading as the dead Lexie living back with her mates was like a bad episode of Friends.

strandroad

OU812 wrote: »

Absolute mistake to merge the two books.

I have read them and the likeness is easily the most accessible of them. Can’t remember if your speculation is correct though. In the woods is probably the least accessible as it has undertones of supernatural events.

I agree that it's a mistake to film them both, you're losing the clarity of the plot and location each of them brings, and they all have enough subplots to generate good storylines. But I can also why they did it with The Likeness, with its dominating themes of identity, ideals, interlocking pasts etc., as they would be hard to externalise for the visual audience; on the surface, it's just a bunch of people cooped up in a house.

OU812 wrote: »

Each book centres of a different detective (who all have something suspect in their own personal background. The other characters drift in and out as secondary characters. Timeframe isn’t fluid so some of the investigations are going on at the same time.

I would welcome further seasons, one per book. I appreciate the unique settings (ghost estate in county Meath, a particular lane in Dublin 8, girls school etc) and how different detectives pass the baton in narration. We'll see.

Samsgirl

Will be so cross if we don't get answers tonight..

The Princess Bride

I enjoyed tonight.
Killian Scott was brilliant, it's finally coming together.

I really dislike the head policeman, though, seems like either an over actor or a poorly written part for an eager actor.
Meh.

Professor Genius

This is a farce. It’s beyond rubbish now.