People that take up a seat on the bus for their bag

Spanish Eyes

You pay for YOUR seat, not a seat for your bags aswell. Why do people not get this fact?

Boxing.Fan

I wonder how many people were sitting on a bus with their bag taking up a seat while reading this thread

Airyfairy12

I do this, I dont mean to be rude and have no problem moving my bag if someone wants to sit down.

con___manx1

marieholmfan wrote: »

I always take a seat for my bag. True I have only paid for one ticket but my taxes subsidise the coffin dodgers , junkies and ankle biters who infest our public transport.
That is perfectly fair.

Thats a minority of the bus/train. If you dont want to sit with them get a car or else continue your self entitled ways.
Better to use a granny or pregnant woman as a junkie shield rather than your bag. A junkie could take that.

freshpopcorn

If the bus is almost empty and there aren't many getting on I don't see the issue.
If it is full or nearly full then then that's a different story.

Hedgelayer

Most of these people look as if a bag over their head would be a good option.

bucketybuck

victor8600 wrote: »

Yes, but you can just ask them to remove their bag if you want to use the seat.

I usually just move it for them. Privilege of being 6ft, shaved head and looking like a thug.

I'm very serious. No, I'm not asking your permission to sit down, I don't need it.

Stephen15

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

You pay for YOUR seat, not a seat for your bags aswell. Why do people not get this fact?

You don't pay for a seat you pay to travel on the bus/train/tram. If you were paying for seat then you wouldn't have to pay if all the seats are taken and you had to stand.

Akrasia

Ronaldinho wrote: »

This is why we should copy China and bring in a Social Credit Score.

There's a black mirror episode that begs to differ

Spanish Eyes

Stephen15 wrote: »

You don't pay for a seat you pay to travel on the bus/train/tram. If you were paying for seat then you wouldn't have to pay if all the seats are taken and you had to stand.

I take your point. But when did the bag have to pay to be placed in an empty seat in the real world?

Spanish Eyes

freshpopcorn wrote: »

If the bus is almost empty and there aren't many getting on I don't see the issue.
If it is full or nearly full then then that's a different story.

I think we all realise this, and would not create a fuss about that at all.

We seem to be talking about idiots on a full bus/tram/DART who have occupied a seat for their bags, preventing others from sitting down. Not the same thing at all. IMO.

Spanish Eyes

bucketybuck wrote: »

I usually just move it for them. Privilege of being 6ft, shaved head and looking like a thug.

I'm very serious. No, I'm not asking your permission to sit down, I don't need it.

Quite right too. Bullies try to intimidate.

Where do you put their bags as a matter of interest. Some of them might accuse you of robbery. Yes, that is what we are up against now I fear.

We need good legal tactics.

Garibaldi?

I would be wary of touching a bag. But I would ask the person to move it. Some people are just a bit dozy. Not deliberately ignoring the situation.

WoollyRedHat

Ew buses how passe.

Atlantic Dawn

My favourite people are those who deliberately attempt to sit on the bags and 'pretend' they didn't see them, works best when there's other free seats on the bus.

YFlyer

Stephen15 wrote: »

You don't pay for a seat you pay to travel on the bus/train/tram. If you were paying for seat then you wouldn't have to pay if all the seats are taken and you had to stand.

I can see Shane Ross bringing in sitting down only policy.

Spleerbun

Some seem to have an issue with sitting in an aisle seat, what's wrong with that?!? I always sit in an aisle seat on the train if I know it will be a busy one, would rather stand than be squashed on the inside. Doesn't mean I don't expect to let people in and out though, I've no problem doing that

Stephen15

YFlyer wrote: »

I can see Shane Ross bringing in sitting down only policy.

I'm sure loads would rather standing waiting hours for a seat on a train, Luas or Bus than stand for half an hour on a bus/train/luas

AllForIt

The problem is not bags on seats, it's ppl sitting beside you when there are plenty empty groups of 2. Freaks.

PistolsAtDawn

Hedgelayer wrote: »

Brown Thomas lol
She probably has her aldi shopping in it.
You'll see some people going around rural towns like Ennis and Kilkenny with a Brown Thomas bag, the madness within me would love to say, wow you shop in Brown Thomas...

Roll out the fanfare and golden carpet...

Look everyone they shop in Brown Thomas, and the Metro Goldwyn Mayer Lion on standby....

Rural idiots, how dare they reuse bags from previous shopping trips likely with the intention of saving personal costs and the environment.

Why not throw away and buy new every time like us savvy city slickers

Hotblack Desiato

PistolsAtDawn wrote: »

Rural idiots, how dare they reuse bags from previous shopping trips likely with the intention of saving personal costs and the environment.

Why not throw away and buy new every time like us savvy city slickers

Good idea. So when they go to BT to buy the cheapest item in the shop, they can re-use the Aldi or Tesco bag they already have. Sorted. No needless accusations of showing off, then.

Gimme A Pound

Thought it was obvious that the OP doesn't mean when there are plenty of other seats.

Stephen15

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

Thought it was obvious that the OP doesn't mean when there are plenty of other seats.

I've actually heard people saying they hate people putting their bags on seats even if the bus is nearly empty

ToddyDoody

I'm pretty sure its against most bus charters.

Print it out and have it on hand as required.

Outlaw Pete

Arghus

99% of people will remove their bag from the seat without any complaint if you need to sit there.

Strumms

Arghus wrote: »

99% of people will remove their bag from the seat without any complaint if you need to sit there.

That’s ok as long as the person removes the bag as the bus is filling up and seats begin to be at a premium. It’s not ok when it becomes a case of having to notify and negotiate with someone to use a seat they are not occupying with their person.

From the bylaws...

‘No person shall interfere with the comfort or convenience of any passenger or person in or about the vehicle.’

You are interfering with their comfort and convenience if you are forcing them to stand in order for you to accommodate your bag on an adjacent seat.

You are interfering with their comfort and convenience if you a forcing them to take time out of their day to speak with your stupid b*stard self entitled selves so they may sit down and rest, as they are entitled to, on a ‘public’ service vehicle.

antix80

I'm on the bus right now, sitting on the outside with my bag on the inside.
I'd move it if asked. The way I see it, there's plenty of free seats including 2 together further down the bus.

If the bus fills up I'll use the bag tactically to avoid sitting beside someone fat or who looks like they might have B.O problems or talk loudly on their phone. By avoiding eye contact people tend to keep walking, while if someone looks more amicable I'll kindly offer the free seat.

Happy4all

Agree with OP, but the almost reverse of that is just as annoying. That is, this morning I'm on a practically empty carriage on a train and someone has sat beside me making me feel squashed.

Ush1

Why does your bag need to be next to you on the seat even if the bus is empty?? Are you having a chat with it or something?

Foweva Awone

Ush1 wrote: »

Why does your bag need to be next to you on the seat even if the bus is empty?? Are you having a chat with it or something?

The seats are likely to be cleaner than the floor. It's a hygiene thing. And it's more convenient to reach it. Also it's easier to keep an eye on it, very easy for a pickpocket in the seat behind to get at a bag on the floor.

Boxing.Fan

Foweva Awone wrote: »

The seats are likely to be cleaner than the floor. It's a hygiene thing. And it's more convenient to reach it. Also it's easier to keep an eye on it, very easy for a pickpocket in the seat behind to get at a bag on the floor.

Put it on your lap.

Boxing.Fan

Ush1 wrote: »

Why does your bag need to be next to you on the seat even if the bus is empty?? Are you having a chat with it or something?

Companianship maybe.

Boxing.Fan

Happy4all wrote: »

Agree with OP, but the almost reverse of that is just as annoying. That is, this morning I'm on a practically empty carriage on a train and someone has sat beside me making me feel squashed.

Equally as annoying I'd imagine, that's never happened me but if it did I'd defo get up and move. Anyone that does something like that is a danger.

Deebles McBeebles

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

Are c***s.




That is all.

Veloce

I was on my morning commute yesterday morning on a Dublin city centre bound 39a.

There was a woman 2 rows up sitting on the outside (aisle) seat with a free seat on the inside by the window. When the bus was in motion she would was on her phone and looking about but as soon as the bus pulled up to a bus stop she would magically nod off to sleep. Passengers would make an attempt to say excuse me - but she wouldn't hear them. About 3 people tried but to no avail. Eventually it became the last seat - until some lad kept on her until she finally caved and let him in... jaysus.

Boxing.Fan

Veloce wrote: »

I was on my morning commute yesterday morning on a Dublin city centre bound 39a.

There was a woman 2 rows up sitting on the outside (aisle) seat with a free seat on the inside by the window. When the bus was in motion she would was on her phone and looking about but as soon as the bus pulled up to a bus stop she would magically nod off to sleep. Passengers would make an attempt to say excuse me - but she wouldn't hear them. About 3 people tried but to no avail. Eventually it became the last seat - until some lad kept on her until she finally caved and let him in... jaysus.

I'd barge through her to get to the seat. That's a weirdo.

EICVD

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

Are c***s.




That is all.

Yes they are!

jester77

I saw an incident here in Hamburg where someone was taking up a second seat with their bags. A controller boarded and asked to see her second ticket :pac:

Keyzer

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

Are c***s.




That is all.

Why can't you just ask them to move the f*cking thing versus posting it on web - christ on a f*cking bike.

Boxing.Fan

Keyzer wrote: »

Why can't you just ask them to move the f*cking thing versus posting it on web - christ on a f*cking bike.

I did. But thought I'd share my experience with the good people of AH. That ok with you chief?

bobbyss

Boxing.Fan wrote:

I did. But thought I'd share my experience with the good people of AH. That ok with you chief?

Indeed so. This is exactly what boards is for. Or do we all need some kind of permission from Keyser to offer an opinion.

Turquoise Hexagon Sun

I was thinking of making this topic for weeks. Glad you did.

Here's my reasoning. I had this debate with a friend. They said they don't like people sitting beside people so they leave a bag there. And to respond to Keyzer's comment above "Why can't you just ask them to move the f*cking thing versus posting it on web" I said, I hate being forced in to the social interaction to ask or gesture for someone to move the bag. Why put the onus on me? That amounts to: I'm going to keep farting until you tell me to stop.

The seat and the right to sit down I think will trump anyone's will to not want anyone to sit down beside them. You just look like an inconsiderate ****.

And people do this **** at morning rush hour.

****.

weldoninhio

Lefty Bicek wrote: »

It's not to your credit that you don't have an issue with ignorant, selfish pig behaviour. Which is what it is.

Selfish people still have eyes to see for themselves. If seating is scarce enough they should remove their bags, but they don't do it.

It doesn't have to be a pregnant woman or an old person, either. No-one who haspaid for their seat should have to get involved in asking the question.

Not everyone is assertive enough to ask anyway, and I think the selfish c**** play on that.

*Newsflash* Unless you prebook on a train, no one in Ireland pays for a seat. It’s the same fare whether there are seats or not.

weldoninhio

nacho libre wrote: »

The decent thing for an abled bodied person to do is to give up the seat for someone who needs it more. The elderly person , assuming they have a sense of civic responsibilty, should be affored some courtesy ,and it is right they have free travel after a life time of working. You might one day appreciate someone younger being kind to you in your old age.

I’m not ageist or sexist. So I treat the elderly and the pregnant exactly as I would expect to be treated. You either get a seat or you don’t. No one would be getting up to let me sit down.

weldoninhio

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Agree. It is courtesy and good manners.

But the thread is about idiots who think that they HAVE PURCHASED A SEAT FOR THEIR BAG! Which I find hilarious and very annoying. But I don't tolerate it anymore now when the mode of transport is full whilst I have to stand and the bag gets a seat. :pac:

I know this is a slight reach, but if you asked someone to move their bag and they pulled out 2 tickets and said they had purchased a seat for their bag too, would you expect them to move it or no?? Or if they bought two tickets to keep the seat free for their significant other who is getting on in a few stops?

the beer revolu

weldoninhio wrote: »

I know this is a slight reach, but if you asked someone to move their bag and they pulled out 2 tickets and said they had purchased a seat for their bag too, would you expect them to move it or no?? Or if they bought two tickets to keep the seat free for their significant other who is getting on in a few stops?

Did you not just kindly explain that you do not purchase a ticket for a seat?

Gimme A Pound

weldoninhio wrote: »

I’m not ageist or sexist. So I treat the elderly and the pregnant exactly as I would expect to be treated. You either get a seat or you don’t. No one would be getting up to let me sit down.

Because - wild guess - you're not old or pregnant, both of which can cause discomfort when standing.

Nice attempt at justifying selfish rude behaviour though.

weldoninhio

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

You pay for YOUR seat, not a seat for your bags aswell. Why do people not get this fact?

You pay for YOUR journey from A to B. Why do people not get this fact?? Dublin Bus is not obliged to seat you. The fare is no cheaper if all of the seats are gone.

jester77

jester77 wrote: »

I saw an incident here in Hamburg where someone was taking up a second seat with their bags. A controller boarded and asked to see her second ticket :pac:

I assume they still do this - but Ryanair had a bus between Frankfurt Hahn airport and Frankfurt Central. Kids under a certain age travel free.

When the bus is full there is a subset of people who know this policy - and so will go up to parents with such children demanding to see the ticket the child in the seat has.

Which of course you can not produce so they start demanding the small child - a large toddler in my case - stand or sit on your lap. The lap that is already full of luggage since the bus provides feck all luggage space.

Happened to me which I was able to handle - but saw it also happen to a single mother with three kids and three bags in tow who was already suffering and flustered without an angry fat german man shouting at her demanding tickets and seat emptying. She was barely coping as it was.