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    #782
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Do we know UK pricing for the 6800 and 6800XT yet? The 5600X caught me a bit by suprise based on the US MSRP.

    What do you mean?

    I just looked as scan.co.uk - ROG Stix B550 + 5600x is for £450, while the MB asks for £200. That leaves the 5600x for £250. That's actually better what I would expect for MSRP $299 part.


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    #783
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Overheal wrote: »
    I don't think about them? I update them and they work. I play games I shoot things and they blow up. Can't complain.

    That isn't how Farming Simulator works. Those poor sheep, what did they ever do to you.


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    #784
    Rob2D
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    I haven't been on team red since my 7970. Not sure which side to choose now...........


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    #785
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Rob2D wrote: »
    I haven't been on team red since my 7970. Not sure which side to choose now...........

    If they seem equal, choose the underdog. AMD needs your money much more than nVidia right now.


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    #786
    Wonda-Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Rob2D wrote: »
    I haven't been on team red since my 7970. Not sure which side to choose now...........

    Last time I was on team red was the monster 6990 that served me very well, I think it was the nvidia 295 before that if memory serves me correctly. Any GPU I ever had was cutting edge since launch apart from the 10 series where life and bills got in the way of PC gaming and building.

    :(


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    #787
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    grogi wrote: »
    What do you mean?

    I just looked as scan.co.uk - ROG Stix B550 + 5600x is for £450, while the MB asks for £200. That leaves the 5600x for £250. That's actually better what I would expect for MSRP $299 part.

    279 - 289 sterling seems to be the RRP which is a bit higher than expected against 299 dollars


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    #788
    JoyPad
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    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    279 - 289 sterling seems to be the RRP which is a bit higher than expected against 299 dollars

    299 dollars does not include taxes.

    299 USD = approx 228 GBP.
    With 20% UK VAT => 273 GBP


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    #789
    Wonda-Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    I very much doubt anywhere will be taking pre orders for the 6800XT will they? And the AIB cards will not be available on the same day as launch :(


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    #790
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    279 - 289 sterling seems to be the RRP which is a bit higher than expected against 299 dollars

    From experience gathered over years buying computer stuff, $299 ~ €309 ~ £279.

    Simirarly $649 6800XT would translate to approximately €659-€679 (depending on the local VAT rate, Germany being the cheapest) and £619...


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    #791
    EoinHef
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    Wonda-Boy wrote: »
    I very much doubt anywhere will be taking pre orders for the 6800XT will they? And the AIB cards will not be available on the same day as launch :(

    I feel the initial stock of reference cards will go quick

    https://wccftech.com/asus-warns-low-amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-stock-aib-custom-cards-to-launch-1-2-weeks-later/


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    #792
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Not sure about the reference cooler. Some reports of it being noisy although not to AMDs usual jet engine simulator I'm sure. Thinking the 6800 with a lower power might not be a problem but I want to OC. Think I'm gonna have to wait.


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    #793
    Wonda-Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Not sure about the reference cooler. Some reports of it being noisy although not to AMDs usual jet engine simulator I'm sure. Thinking the 6800 with a lower power might not be a problem but I want to OC. Think I'm gonna have to wait.

    I was away down the country for the 3080 launch and I still waiting so gonna go for the 6800XT on launch day and if successful keep it till the 6900XT launches. Im sure I will move it on only a month later if I get the 6900XT.

    So the 6800XT AIB cards do not concern me too much a vanilla will do as I dont intend to keep it....but I will keep it until I get the 6900XT card I want.


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    #794
    K.O.Kiki
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    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Not sure about the reference cooler. Some reports of it being noisy although not to AMDs usual jet engine simulator I'm sure. Thinking the 6800 with a lower power might not be a problem but I want to OC. Think I'm gonna have to wait.

    Where did you see that?
    I haven't heard any leaks on RX 6800 coolers.


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    #795
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Where did you see that?
    I haven't heard any leaks on RX 6800 coolers.

    Sorry it was about the 6800XT cooler. I assumed it was the same.


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    #796
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Wonder if we're going to get junction temperature again...


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    #797
    Headshot
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    Guys i've been looking at various UK websites such as Overclockers, Scan to see can I find a pre-order for the Radeon RX 6800 XT and nothing?


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    #798
    EoinHef
    Registered Users Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭EoinHef


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Wonder if we're going to get junction temperature again...

    Was lookin at an article somewhere that mentioned amd having different bios modes for the 6800XT,one was called turbo and had a temp limit of 95C......


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    #799
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    EoinHef wrote: »
    Was lookin at an article somewhere that mentioned amd having different bios modes for the 6800XT,one was called turbo and had a temp limit of 95C......

    Good old Igor


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    #800
    GHOST MGG
    Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭GHOST MGG


    Headshot wrote: »
    Guys i've been looking at various UK websites such as Overclockers, Scan to see can I find a pre-order for the Radeon RX 6800 XT and nothing?

    not a chance you will be able to pre order anywhere...you can expect a similar but worse scenario like the 5000 series last week


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    #801
    MidlanderMan
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭MidlanderMan


    Headshot wrote: »
    Guys i've been looking at various UK websites such as Overclockers, Scan to see can I find a pre-order for the Radeon RX 6800 XT and nothing?

    They're not in sale for like 2 weeks. Give them a chance.


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    #802
    Wonda-Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    Yeah, highly doubt there will be pre orders up and if they are If you have to pay up front for an open ended delivery then FOOK THAT!

    Its gonna be an F5 marathon on launch day.


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    #803
    SeanW
    Registered Users Posts: 8,817 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Good luck getting a card on Launch day ... or any time thereafter. Chinese website QQ has reported that the lowest-end Big Navi, the 6800, will beat the nVidia 3090 in cryptocurrency mining. The effects of that according to both Not An Apple Fan and other youtubers like GamerMeld, is that it will be likely that there will be serious availability problems with the Big Navi cards even if they have (as they most likely do) much more to sell than nVidia had with Ampere. Additionally, some board partners have warned "expect stock to sell out in the first few minutes"

    At this rate, I'd have to suggest anyone looking to build a new PC that may be used with games, should wait at least the beginning of next year. Between the ongoing mess with nvidia Ampere, the insane demand for Ryzen 5000 and likely a compound of problems for Big Navi, there's going to be no real point in trying to build a new rig this year.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da-_fL1look

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUcFMPmziJo


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    #804
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Are people still using GPUs for Cryptomining? I thought dedicated miner yokes was were it was at?


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    #805
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    https://twitter.com/Bullsh1t_buster/status/1325829616573935616


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    #806
    BloodBath
    Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    SeanW wrote: »
    Good luck getting a card on Launch day ... or any time thereafter. Chinese website QQ has reported that the lowest-end Big Navi, the 6800, will beat the nVidia 3090 in cryptocurrency mining. The effects of that according to both Not An Apple Fan and other youtubers like GamerMeld, is that it will be likely that there will be serious availability problems with the Big Navi cards even if they have (as they most likely do) much more to sell than nVidia had with Ampere. Additionally, some board partners have warned "expect stock to sell out in the first few minutes"

    At this rate, I'd have to suggest anyone looking to build a new PC that may be used with games, should wait at least the beginning of next year. Between the ongoing mess with nvidia Ampere, the insane demand for Ryzen 5000 and likely a compound of problems for Big Navi, there's going to be no real point in trying to build a new rig this year.

    In fairness I don't think not an apple fan has much of a clue what he's talking about half the time.

    Mining is all about power efficiency. High end cards aren't very power efficient or cost effective. Most miners tend to use lower to mid range cards in large numbers.

    No idea of the exact numbers though so he might be right.


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    #807
    SeanW
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    Time will tell whether the cryptomining claim is BS or not. But most likely it's not a question of whether or not all the new cards sell out in minutes, but rather from launch how long you'll be waiting before they are reasonably available, if the Ampere and Ryzen 5000 launches are anything to go by.


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    #808
    grogi
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    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Are people still using GPUs for Cryptomining? I thought dedicated miner yokes was were it was at?

    Etherum - yes, absolutely.


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    #809
    EoinHef
    Registered Users Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭EoinHef


    I think the reference models are going to sell out near instantly,just have to hope the AiBs have a lot of stock two weeks later.


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    #810
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    EoinHef wrote: »
    I think the reference models are going to sell out near instantly,just have to hope the AiBs have a lot of stock two weeks later.

    Wasn't Asus saying they reckon their initial AIB stock will be gone in minutes?


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    #811
    EoinHef
    Registered Users Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭EoinHef


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Wasn't Asus saying they reckon their initial AIB stock will be gone in minutes?

    I thought that was their reference models?

    AMD allows brands to sell the reference model ie you can buy a reference model from Asus


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