Wrestling News & Rumours Thread ***NO CHAT***

Can't find numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if Cornette's full show has more weekly listeners than AEW's TV show has viewers.

Agent Coulson

Cena was as generic as a CAW down with Cornette it was only his own sheer charisma that got him over when he got a chance on the main roster.

Big Dave was very much the same until Evolution where they were able to hide the negatives and accentuate the positives in that group and he got a chance to grow.

Cornette had nothing to do with them becoming megastars.

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Cornette had nothing to do with them becoming megastars.

Absolutely cuckoo.

beakerjoe

Deleted User wrote: »

Absolutely cuckoo.

Its a fair take.

Sure Cornette was the booker in OVW, he certainly had an influence on Cena/Batista is some form. Did they learn anything from him? Id say they certainly gained knowledge from him and he aided them in their careers. But did he make them megastars?

I think not.

B.A._Baracus

You always get people trying to take credit for the success of those in wrestling.
Lost count how many times I heard a wrestler say they trained xyz blah blah. Like they were the reason for that persons success. Then you find out they only trained with them for like 6 months and that was years ago.

Goes with the business.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/WrestlingInc/status/1371544227331604487

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Cena was as generic as a CAW down with Cornette it was only his own sheer charisma that got him over when he got a chance on the main roster.

Big Dave was very much the same until Evolution where they were able to hide the negatives and accentuate the positives in that group and he got a chance to grow.

Totally ahistorical.

Cena was cutting great promos and having great matches in OVW. It was pretty much the Cena we eventually saw (minus the rap gimmick). He was called up to the main roster and there he became 'generic'.


As for Batista - he was being hammered over in OVW, built as an absolute animal. He gets brought up to the main roster and they hang a box around his neck.


It's mad that this place constantly whinges about WWE mishandling current talent, and yet the same people are turning themselves inside out to pretend WWE didn't **** up with Cena and Batista. Both Cena and Batista had all the talent in the world, WWE just didn't see it.

LineOfBeauty

Big Covid outbreak in NXT. Awful timing (even more so than normal). Why this keeps happening to that particular brand, everyone can make their own guesses.

Headshot

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Big Covid outbreak in NXT. Awful timing (even more so than normal). Why this keeps happening to that particular brand, everyone can make their own guesses.

Would explain the stories of Vince not being happy with WWE talent.

ThePott

Charlotte is going to be the lead in a TV movie remake of Walking Tall with potential for more installments to come. That's a pretty big deal.
https://deadline.com/2021/03/battlestar-galactica-david-eick-walking-tall-tv-remake-charlotte-flair-usa-zone-of-silence-peacock-1234713299/

Also rumours going around that WWE might not be putting Mania tickets on sale tomorrow anymore.

Agent Coulson

Taking over the role from The Rock

CastorTroy

If it goes to series, she'll be away for a good while

beakerjoe

Deleted User wrote: »

Totally ahistorical.

Cena was cutting great promos and having great matches in OVW. It was pretty much the Cena we eventually saw (minus the rap gimmick). He was called up to the main roster and there he became 'generic'.


As for Batista - he was being hammered over in OVW, built as an absolute animal. He gets brought up to the main roster and they hang a box around his neck.


It's mad that this place constantly whinges about WWE mishandling current talent, and yet the same people are turning themselves inside out to pretend WWE didn't **** up with Cena and Batista. Both Cena and Batista had all the talent in the world, WWE just didn't see it.

You make so good points. Cena was doing decent enough as a heel in OVW, Batista maybe not so much... he has a torrid time as injuries were a regular occurrence.

Im not saying Cornetto didnt influence them, it be daft to suggest otherwise. Im sure they picked a lot of knowledge from Jim and Id say he certainly helped them along.

And yes, WWE went backwards with Cena initially. Have a basics for a decent heel character in place and ignoring it to provide a white meat babyface Cena that no one cared about. A wrong move.

Batista was labeled injure prone so they probably didnt trust him enough to begin with when he arrived on Smackdown, but yeah the deacon gimmick did him no favours.

The White Wolf

ThePott wrote: »

Charlotte is going to be the lead in a TV movie remake of Walking Tall with potential for more installments to come. That's a pretty big deal.
https://deadline.com/2021/03/battlestar-galactica-david-eick-walking-tall-tv-remake-charlotte-flair-usa-zone-of-silence-peacock-1234713299/

Also rumours going around that WWE might not be putting Mania tickets on sale tomorrow anymore.

Charlotte's acting never struck me as being crossover worthy. Wow.

beakerjoe

The White Wolf wrote: »

Charlotte's acting never struck me as being crossover worthy. Wow.

Neither did Sasha Banks. Her acting on Smackdown is abysmal. Ive seen better evil laughs by Panto villain's. She cant act.

The White Wolf

beakerjoe wrote: »

Neither did Sasha Banks. Her acting on Smackdown is abysmal. Ive seen better evil laughs by Panto villain's. She cant act.

I mean yeah but Sasha's role in Mando didn't demand too much. Charlotte is leading a tv show on the other hand. :eek:

J. Marston

She was fine in Mandalorian.

Practically nobody can do natural acting in wrestling because it's panto acting. You've got a mic and need to shout and exagerrate for the people all the way back in the cheap seats.

JP Liz V1

ThePott wrote: »

Charlotte is going to be the lead in a TV movie remake of Walking Tall with potential for more installments to come. That's a pretty big deal.
https://deadline.com/2021/03/battlestar-galactica-david-eick-walking-tall-tv-remake-charlotte-flair-usa-zone-of-silence-peacock-1234713299/

Also rumours going around that WWE might not be putting Mania tickets on sale tomorrow anymore.

I think I read somewhere Ronda was doing this or was that Roadhouse

beakerjoe

J. Marston wrote: »

She was fine in Mandalorian.

Practically nobody can do natural acting in wrestling because it's panto acting. You've got a mic and need to shout and exagerrate for the people all the way back in the cheap seats.

But there she cant speak without coming off wooden. Now maybe thats a product of WWEs scripted promos, but she never seems like shes showing any real personality, she comes across fake or pretending to be a heel. I just cant but what shes selling.Compare her with Bianca, its Belair that looks so much more natural and comfortable when speaking. Shes much more convincing than Sasha....

Bayley, looks light years ahead of her when shes cutting a promo.

Even Nia, whos is not great promo artist, comes off better.

Now on Charlotte, do we even need a remake of Walking Tall, which itself was a remake.

ThePott

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think I read somewhere Ronda was doing this or was that Roadhouse

She was meant to be in Roadhouse at one stage but don't think it went anywhere.
I get the feeling Ric was talking about Charlotte doing a big project around Summerslam last year, wonder if this was it.

Agent Coulson

A remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake.

The 1973 original version starring Joe Don Baker followed by two sequels starring Bo Svenson.

A 1978 TV movie starring Brian Dennehy

The 1981 TV series

The 2004 version starring The Rock.

Then two straight to DVD films starring Kevin Sorbo

beakerjoe

Agent Coulson wrote: »

A remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake.

The 1973 original version starring Joe Don Baker followed by two sequels starring Bo Svenson.

A 1978 TV movie starring Brian Dennehy

The 1981 TV series

The 2004 version starring The Rock.

Then two straight to DVD films starring Kevin Sorbo

Why does this keep getting rehashrd... remade..... is there an actual demand for it?

Agent Coulson

beakerjoe wrote: »

Why does this keep getting rehashrd... remade..... is there an actual demand for it?

Based on a real life US sheriff who stood up to the bad guys even after they killed his wife to warn him off and won they eat it up in the Southern States.

JP Liz V1

So it is just another Marine flick what are we on 7 now

Agent Coulson

I'm surprised Bliss hasn't gotten any TV or film roles she has a very good and natural promo one of all the best within the female talent and has the the looks for Hollywood.

Furious-Red

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'm surprised Bliss hasn't gotten any TV or film roles she has a very good and natural promo one of all the best within the female talent and has the the looks for Hollywood.

Yea but what about Charlotte............:pac::pac::pac:

JP Liz V1

Furious-Red wrote: »

Yea but what about Charlotte............:pac::pac::pac:

No real flair for it :P

No female really over as much as Becky

Itssoeasy

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

No real flair for it :P

No female really over as much as Becky

Well done.

LineOfBeauty

Joe Lanza full of news today.

Andrade was gonna be released in the December cuts til Heyman saved his job. WWE have pitched ideas to Andrade that he's rejected. Likens it to the Pac and Brodie situations. Says it's a stand off.

He's tweeted in the past that if he doesn't want their money and doesn't want to be there and just wants to wrestle then they should let him leave, even if legally they don't have to.

But it does sound like Andrade really does just want out of that place.

beakerjoe

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Joe Lanza full of news today.

Andrade was gonna be released in the December cuts til Heyman saved his job. WWE have pitched ideas to Andrade that he's rejected. Likens it to the Pac and Brodie situations. Says it's a stand off.

He's tweeted in the past that if he doesn't want their money and doesn't want to be there and just wants to wrestle then they should let him leave, even if legally they don't have to.

But it does sound like Andrade really does just want out of that place.

What would WWE have to gain by letting him leave? Cant see them agreeing to it.