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Wrestling News & Rumours Thread ***NO CHAT***

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    #2222
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Loughc wrote: »
    Vince’s Rock n’Rolla cruise

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    Dana & UFC have FIGHT ISLAND.

    WWE present: SUMMERSLAM: FIGHT BOAT


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    #2223
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,643 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Gimmick infringement of Chris Jericho's Rock 'N' Wrestling Rager at Sea :pac:


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    #2224
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,186 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Rollins v Mysterio Jr Jr in a parting the seas death match.


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    #2225
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    The White Wolf wrote: »
    Rollins v Mysterio Jr Jr in a parting the seas death match.

    EYE wouldn’t watch it.


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    #2226
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,643 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Loughc wrote: »
    EYE wouldn’t watch it.

    AEye AEye Captian.


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    #2227
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Loughc wrote: »
    WWE Fight Boat

    Man I wish WCW was alive to spend tens of millions of dollars doing something mental like this!


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    #2228
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    You’d think WWE would do it on a plane, more their sort of thing no


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    #2229
    beakerjoe
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    Unless Lugar slams Yoko, its a no for me.

    Who am I kidding, I'll pay if Jean Pierre Lafeatte turns up to steal Natties jacket.


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    #2230
    sky88
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    Get kari and Paul burchill to hijack the boat


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    #2231
    Itssoeasy
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    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Man I wish WCW was alive to spend tens of millions of dollars doing something mental like this!

    Well they spent money like drunk sailors for years so I'm surprised they didn't when they were in existence.


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    #2232
    Ohmeha
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    It's now official anyway, Vince will hold Summerslam on the Diamond Princess


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    #2233
    beakerjoe
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    Ohmeha wrote: »
    It's now official anyway, Vince will hold Summerslam on the Diamond Princess

    Now, if only he had a better product we'd be right.


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    #2234
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Interesting article in Variety about WWE's ratings
    https://variety.com/vip/amidst-wwe-ratings-tumble-mcmahon-must-stop-blaming-storylines-1234712446/

    Seems there's a Q2 Earnings Call tomorrow night so expect a lot of tidbits and scapegoats thrown around.


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    #2235
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    ThePott wrote: »
    Interesting article in Variety about WWE's ratings
    https://variety.com/vip/amidst-wwe-ratings-tumble-mcmahon-must-stop-blaming-storylines-1234712446/

    Seems there's a Q2 Earnings Call tomorrow night so expect a lot of tidbits and scapegoats thrown around.

    What excuses will Vince have this time around?


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    #2236
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    What excuses will Vince have this time around?

    Covid 19 etc etc..... though he will do his usual 'we are pleased with the ratings ' bull.


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    #2237
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Covid 19 etc etc..... though he will do his usual 'we are pleased with the ratings ' bull.

    Something about Paul Heyman & "creative differences" or some other BS to explain the change to Prichard.

    It's like United and their chopping and changing managers since Fergie retired.


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    #2238
    Agent Coulson
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    Anyone catch the highlights of the conference call?


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    #2239
    Itssoeasy
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    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Anyone catch the highlights of the conference call?

    I saw one highlight in that the Q2 profit this year compared to last years was massive.


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    #2240
    Lithium93_
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    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Anyone catch the highlights of the conference call?
    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I saw one highlight in that the Q2 profit this year compared to last years was massive.

    400% increase in profit from what I saw, can't remember the exact figures. But they still decided to release/furlough people.

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    #2241
    ricero
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    Got to hand it to Vinnie Mac and the WWE from a business perspective they are a global force and the gold standard.

    Amazing profits in a global pandemic. I presume Wrestlemania must of been a massive success based on this.


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    #2242
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    ricero wrote: »
    Got to hand it to Vinnie Mac and the WWE from a business perspective they are a global force and the gold standard.

    Amazing profits in a global pandemic.

    Yet they still could've made profits had they not had their Black Wednesday in April.

    Also it's not really amazing profits in a global pandemic, Amazon did better in their own Q2.


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    #2243
    beakerjoe
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    To he fair, while its a ****ty move to do now, during the height of a global pandemic, WWE should be releasing wrestlers. The should release more. The stockpiled a **** load of talent and under used almost all of them. Just to keep them from going elsewhere.

    Timing is ****ty, but I think WWE should release so many.


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    #2244
    Agent Coulson
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    All we hear in here from certain posters is oh look AEW, Impact, MLW being looked down of taking WWE cast offs.

    When the WWE have in fact being buying and stock piling those wrestlers then just jobbing 99% of them out for the last decade to stop them actually going to other Feds in the first place.


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    #2245
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Bryan Alvarez tongue in cheek quote tweeted Dave Meltzer about the jump in WWE profits.

    https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1288940712667549697


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    #2246
    Lithium93_
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    beakerjoe wrote: »
    To he fair, while its a ****ty move to do now, during the height of a global pandemic, WWE should be releasing wrestlers. The should release more. The stockpiled a **** load of talent and under used almost all of them. Just to keep them from going elsewhere.

    Timing is ****ty, but I think WWE should release so many.

    They ****ed people over by doing what they did. But also it's hopefully a lesson to them, in future don't ****ing stockpile so much talent. Especially just to keep them from other companies.


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    #2247
    Agent Coulson
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    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    They ****ed people over by doing what they did. But also it's hopefully a lesson to them, in future don't ****ing stockpile so much talent. Especially just to keep them from other companies.

    Of course they will do it again if it will hurt any of the other companies and stop there growth.


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    #2248
    CastorTroy
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    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    All we hear in here from certain posters is oh look AEW, Impact, MLW being looked down of taking WWE cast offs.

    When the WWE have in fact being buying and stock piling those wrestlers then just jobbing 99% of them out for the last decade to stop them actually going to other Feds in the first place.

    And the funny thing is that a lot of them wouldn't be worth thinking about if WWE hadn't taken them on in the first place. Like do we think someone like Deonna Purrazzo would be the Impact women's champion if she hadn't been with WWE. Would Brodie Lee have the role he has? Would people care about the likes of Heath and Ryder?
    OK, Brodie might be in a high place as he had good rep before WWE.
    So they take ones on just to stop them going elsewhere, increasing their value in the process


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    #2249
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Of course they will do it again if it will hurt any of the other companies and stop there growth.

    They're a kid unhappy with their old toys, wanting the newest shiny thing. Especially when you consider the talent they already have on their books.


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    #2250
    Agent Coulson
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    And the funny thing is that a lot of them wouldn't be worth thinking about if WWE hadn't taken them on in the first place. Like do we think someone like Deonna Purrazzo would be the Impact women's champion if she hadn't been with WWE. Would Brodie Lee have the role he has? Would people care about the likes of Heath and Ryder?
    OK, Brodie might be in a high place as he had good rep before WWE.
    So they take ones on just to stop them going elsewhere, increasing their value in the process

    Purrazzo yes she probably would have considering her runs in TNA,ROH and Shimmer before even going to NXT and being pretty much wasted the girl has real in ring talent.

    Brodie had a very good rep before he entered the WWE as well it was the reason the WWE signed him.

    Heath and Ryder are pretty much WWE homegrown talent so that is unfair to say no one would care about then since nether really worked outside the WWE to give anyone a chance to see what they can do outside the WWE bubble.


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    #2251
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    I'll just copy some of the Q&A from Fightful Wrestling.
    A caller asks about "soft" ratings, and cites COVID, but asks if Vince McMahon is worried and his plans to change it. Vince says the audience is integral to the ratings, but thinks they need new characters, better characters and more compelling story lines.

    As is tradition, a lot of dancing around questions.

    Vince McMahon says a decision hasn't been made yet on a Saudi Arabia event, but considering where they are in their economy he doubts it.

    WWE says a Sony deal caused a lot of geoblocking that affected their social media numbers and caused them to fall

    Caller asks why AEW & NXT have bounced back in ratings better during COVID than Raw & Smackdown. Vince says that AEW and NXT are newer, and that's why. The caller also asks about Heyman being fired, and abandoning the development of wrestlers. Vince McMahon says he thought Heyman did a good job creatively, and answered nothing else associated with that question besides saying you always have to develop new characters.

    A lot of concern for ratings and viewership among the callers in the Q&A.


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