Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

I'm surprised. Someone like him taking his own life? I don't know.

SEPT 23 1989

Was one of the other men at the centre of the peace process named as well?

thecretinhop

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Was one of the other men at the centre of the peace process named as well?

yep and a slew of democrats

IAMAMORON

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Was one of the other men at the centre of the peace process named as well?

Yep he was a pal of George Mitchell.

touts

If this happened in a Russian prison to someone with dirt on Putin and various other high profile figures it would be assumed in the western media that he had been killed. Tomorrow's papers will be interesting.

BorneTobyWilde

§ 552.42 Suicide watch conditions.

(a)Housing. Each institution must have one or more rooms designated specifically for housing an inmate on suicide watch. The designated room must allow staff to maintain adequate control of the inmate without compromising the ability to observe and protect the inmate.

(b)Observation.

(1)Staff or trained inmate observers operating in scheduled shifts are responsible for keeping the inmate under constant observation.

(2) Only the Warden may authorize the use of inmate observers.

(3)Inmate observers are considered to be on an institution work assignment when they are on their scheduled shift.

(c)Suicide watch log. Observers are to document significant observed behavior in a log book.

(d)Termination. Based upon clinical findings, the Program Coordinator or designee will:

(1) Remove the inmate from suicide watch when the inmate is no longer at imminent risk for suicide, or

(2) Arrange for the inmate's transfer to a medical referral center or health care facility.

marklazarcovic

Perhaps he knew they would try get him,and the suicide 'attempt' last week was a means to get on 24 hour watch,to try stop them getting to him . First thing I thought of after hearing he's dead.

BorneTobyWilde

No one has EVER died on suicide watch before, and never will again.

It's a bit like a Sky Scrape falling due to fire, won't happen again. But managed to happen multiple times in the space of a few hours on Sep 11

_Whimsical_

123balltv wrote: »

Prince Andrew doesn't need to remarry Sarah now

Exactly what I thought too.
It was all over the news this morning that she was flying into the royal Scottish retreat to be with him.
The royals would hardly touch her with a barge pole, shes never invited to any of their things, now suddenly she's going on holidays with them!
They clearly just wanted to spin the story and try buy some headlines with tales of them being lovers.

super_furry

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1160188170698469376

This is interesting. Wouldn't be surprised if they don't turn up much though.

IAMAMORON

If I am a prison officer with a wife and kids and I am approached by chunts who say there is a few quid and there is a picture of your lovely wife and that's where your lovely kids go to school …..

It is really easy to do in fairness.

batgoat

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

No one has EVER died on suicide watch before, and never will again.

It's a bit like a Sky Scrape falling due to fire, won't happen again. But managed to happen multiple times in the space of a few hours on Sep 11

While I agree his death is suspect. I'd love you to prove the claim that nobody has ever died on suicide watch.. Also bringing 911 conspiracies into it doesn't make you credible.

Jimbob1977

The coroner for the autopsy has been announced.

A certain Dr. Nick Riviera.

Qualified from Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.

_Whimsical_

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Exactly what I thought too.
It was all over the news this morning that she was flying into the royal Scottish retreat to be with him.
The royals would hardly touch her with a barge pole, shes never invited to any of their things, now suddenly she's going on holidays with them!
They clearly just wanted to spin the story and try buy some headlines with tales of them being lovers.

Reports saying an elderly lady wearing a headscarf and a Barbour jacket was seen speeding from the prison complex in a Fiat Uno. Police appealing for witnesses.

123balltv

123balltv wrote: »

Prince Andrew doesn't need to remarry Sarah now

Why? Because that would have been a cover for him?

TheValeyard

Suicide.......

dudara

Moved from AH > CA and merged with pre-existing thread.

SEPT 23 1989

Obviously this didn’t work the last time

BorneTobyWilde

A person in a padded empty room who is under watch 24/7 managed to kill himself. That's some hidden talent he had. Should have went on America's Got Talent with a trick like that.

super_furry

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

A person in a padded empty room who is under watch 24/7 managed to kill himself. That's some hidden talent he had. Should have went on America's Got Talent with a trick like that.

In fairness it's not really a trick you can repeat. Probably best to build up to that and then save it for the Grand Final.

Hotblack Desiato

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

No one has EVER died on suicide watch before, and never will again.

Has happened loads of times, here's just one example
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7819286.stm

Colin Bell, 34, who was serving a life sentence at HMP Maghaberry for murder, hanged himself at the fourth attempt.

He was on suicide watch and was meant to be monitored every 15 minutes.

It's a bit like a Sky Scrape falling due to fire, won't happen again. But managed to happen multiple times in the space of a few hours on Sep 11

:rolleyes:

Cheerful Spring2

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

The coroner for the autopsy has been announced.

A certain Dr. Nick Riviera.

Qualified from Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.

Official media has already recieved the narrative- Epstein killed himself. There going to be know investigation here. CNN barely even talking about it.

Timberrrrrrrr

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

A person in a padded empty room who is under watch 24/7 managed to kill himself. That's some hidden talent he had. Should have went on America's Got Talent with a trick like that.

The cells are not padded ffs, he was in a normal cell and a guard would visit/look in every 15 mins or so.

Harvey Weinstein

Quite likely he was murdered, also possible he did the 'honorable' thing and killed himself to protect others.

If you want to get really conspiratorial about it, will there be a mass shooting tomorrow, some World famous celeb dies or some huge event to distract from this story and send it down the memory hole?

Snow Garden

martingriff

There is a crazy list of people who would want him dead. It could be suicide but not without some reason. He had stuff on a lot of people from every level of society. If as above the police can now do searches f his places I think a lot of people should still be afraid

BorneTobyWilde

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Has happened loads of times, here's just one example
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7819286.stm

Colin Bell, 34, who was serving a life sentence at HMP Maghaberry for murder, hanged himself at the fourth attempt.

He was on suicide watch and was meant to be monitored every 15 minutes.



:rolleyes:

In USA they're suppose to be watched all the time, and they don't have a rope to hang themselves, WTF kinda suicide watch were they doing in that case. That's hilarious, on suicide watch,, '' hanged himself''

Cheerful Spring2

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

In USA they're suppose to be watched all the time, and they don't have a rope to hang themselves, WTF kinda suicide watch were they doing in that case. That's hilarious, on suicide watch,, '' hanged himself''

There cameras in his cell. Meaning someone was not watching him or was involved in this thing. This jail also had Mexican drug lord EL Chapo and had cameras everywhere watching them.

Suicide will be the final verdict and it be forgotten in time.

Wibbs

Yep, if someone believes this was suicide I've got magic beans to sell.

MadYaker

It would be nice to see trump push for an investigation into all this, but I won’t hold my breath...

Mellor

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

In USA they're suppose to be watched all the time, and they don't have a rope to hang themselves, '

Prisoners hang themselves all the time without rope.
You'd swear it was difficult to do.

BorneTobyWilde

Mellor wrote: »

Prisoners hang themselves all the time without rope.
You'd swear it was difficult to do.

But the room is empty, nothing to even hang from. How do you tie something to a flat surface. And where do you get that something.

Venom

martingriff

Venom wrote: »

<SNIP>

So we can rule out the Clinton's then someone got there sooner!!! Nicely done was a hairs breath of clicking on it to see the Twitter account.

Cheerful Spring2

CNN reporter below. This wing all cells have cameras. Will we recieve a ridicious explantation soon the cameras were not working and Epstein was not in this cell?

https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1160207590946553856

Timberrrrrrrr

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

But the room is empty, nothing to even hang from. How do you tie something to a flat surface. And where do you get that something.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Smith_inquest

The Ashley Smith inquest was an Ontario coroner's inquest into the death of Ashley Smith, a teenager who died by self-inflicted strangulation on 19 October 2007 while under suicide watchin custody at the Grand Valley Institution for Women. Despite guards watching her on video monitors, Smith was able to strangle herself with a strip of cloth

SEPT 23 1989

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

CNN reporter below. This wing all cells have cameras. Will we recieve a ridicious explantation soon the cameras were not working and Epstein was not in this cell?

https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1160207590946553856

He got the special Clinton attention

q85dw7osi4lebg

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

But the room is empty, nothing to even hang from. How do you tie something to a flat surface. And where do you get that something.

Houdini

Vincent Vega

So, with 'suicide watch' is there no option for 24/7 CCTV in the cell or would that be a human rights violation of some kind?

Cheerful Spring2

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

He got the special Clinton attention

Epstein has plenty of enemies now and they wanted him gone. I not blaming anyone- just know Epstein was taken care of.

Sin City

Be intertwining to see if this goes any further i have my doubts

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

No one has EVER died on suicide watch before, and never will again.

It's a bit like a Sky Scrape falling due to fire, won't happen again. But managed to happen multiple times in the space of a few hours on Sep 11

Why bring 9/11 conspiracies into the thread? You are discrediting this story by doing so.

This was a convicted trafficker and abuser. With ties to Trump, Clinton, Democrats and Republicans.
He was basically the most known person in jail at this moment in time and managed to die while in custody.

This story stands on its own for how remarkable it is. Bringing 9/11 into it cheapens the whole thing.

BloodBath

Well well, what a surprise. Who didn't see this coming? Another great cover up in the good ole USA.

Epstein was only the tip of the iceberg but nobody else will be charged.

After a few years of repeated lies it will be forgotten about and people will eventually mock those suggesting a conspiracy as usual.

SEPT 23 1989

BloodBath wrote: »

Well well, what a surprise. Who didn't see this coming? Another great cover up in the good ole USA.

Epstein was only the tip of the iceberg but nobody else will be charged.

After a few years of repeated lies it will be forgotten about and people will eventually mock those suggesting a conspiracy as usual.

Election next year

None of this is going away

Sonny noggs

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Has happened loads of times, here's just one example
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7819286.stm

Colin Bell, 34, who was serving a life sentence at HMP Maghaberry for murder, hanged himself at the fourth attempt.

He was on suicide watch and was meant to be monitored every 15 minutes.



:rolleyes:

Some lads on here have lost the run of themselves.

Apollinaris

Just a quote from Blackadder:

‘died when he accidentally brutally stabbed himself in the stomach while shaving’

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Why bring 9/11 conspiracies into the thread? You are discrediting this story by doing so.

This was a convicted trafficker and abuser. With ties to Trump, Clinton, Democrats and Republicans.
He was basically the most known person in jail at this moment in time and managed to die while in custody.

This story stands on its own for how remarkable it is. Bringing 9/11 into it cheapens the whole thing.

Absolutely.

Conspiracies do happen although most conspiracy theories are junk.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Election next year

None of this is going away

It’s in the interests of both parties that it does. And the establishment. Within a month the suicide of Epstein will be relegated to conspiracy forums.

BloodBath

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

It’s in the interests of both parties that it does. And the establishment. Within a month the suicide of Epstein will be relegated to conspiracy forums.

Exactly and you will get the usual idiots in there deriding anyone for suggesting this was a conspiracy.

raze_them_all_

Saige Putrid Rainfall wrote: »

How do you commit suicide when on suicide watch? I mean I'm not a conspiracy theorist but if ever there was fuel for one, this is it.

It's checked every 15 minutes. You wait till you are checked then bam 15 minutes to kill yourself