Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

James Brown

The latest Trumpesque scary thing is the POTUS re-tweeting conspiracy theories on this. I really feel sorry for the yanks. The man is unhinged.

BloodBath

Matt Barrett wrote: »

The latest Trumpesque scary thing is the POTUS re-tweeting conspiracy theories on this. I really feel sorry for the yanks. The man is unhinged.

Of course in your mind that's a bigger story that the obvious silencing of the head of a paedophile ring for the elite.

If this investigation dries up and amounts to nothing you know every single department in the US is corrupt to the core. It ain't just Trump.

The media is already adapting a "nothing to see here" stance. It's scary. They banged on about the Muller report for years which turned up nothing and was the tinfoil hattiest conspiracy theory out there.

James Brown

BloodBath wrote: »

Of course in your mind that's a bigger story that the obvious silencing of the head of a paedophile ring for the elite.

If this investigation dries up and amounts to nothing you know every single department in the US is corrupt to the core. It ain't just Trump.

No, my point is that the POTUS is of the kind of personality that posts re-tweets of conspiracy theories to score political points against the Clintons. He's a dangerous unhinged individual.

I would suspect suicide, but hope there is a thorough investigation and all involved are brought before the courts. I'd say Prince Andrew is still sweating.

lufties

BloodBath wrote: »

Of course in your mind that's a bigger story that the obvious silencing of the head of a paedophile ring for the elite.

If this investigation dries up and amounts to nothing you know every single department in the US is corrupt to the core. It ain't just Trump.

Trump is not corrupt. Please provide a link proving such.

James Brown

lufties wrote: »

Trump is not corrupt. Please provide a link proving such.

Here's one:

Judge finalizes $25 million Trump University settlement for students of 'sham university'
A federal judge finalized the $25 million settlement between President Trump and students of his now shuttered Trump University on Monday, with New York's attorney general claiming “victims of Donald Trump’s fraudulent university will finally receive the relief they deserve.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/10/trump-university-settlement-judge-finalized/502387002/

Now he's yet to be charged with obstruction of justice but a sitting President can't be. If he loses the next election, likely he will be.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

fryup wrote: »

Seemingly some sources claim that the American Secret Service were well aware of Epstein's shenanigans ...but instead of arresting him used him for getting high profile bigwigs into compromising positions ??

This isn’t a theory. Acosta said that’s why the plea bargain was so easy on him in the previous case.

lufties

lufties wrote: »

Trump is not corrupt. Please provide a link proving such.

I am sure Trump IS corrupt. On this case though, the ties to Epstein are tenuous at best for him, unlike named people like George Mitchell or Bill Clinton, who visited "Love Island" many times.

Watch Fahrenheit 11/9 and watch Obama drink the water in front of the people of Flint whose kids were literally dying of lead poisoning from the same water. Or how Hillary shafted Sanders for the Democrat nomination.

That's an eye opener as to how US politics really work. Defending any of these w**kers isn't something I subscribe to. Everyone knows Trump plays fast and loose, he doesn't pretend otherwise.

This is underage girls being made into sex slaves ... it shouldn't be political, but it IS.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

It was the only way they could kill him I suppose. Dead men don't talk. Rich men who are not incarcerated can afford plenty of security. Yet another dead man to add to the body count that had dirt on the Clintons.

There’s a conspiracy here but it’s bog all to do with Clinton. Do you think he still controls some kind of mafia?

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Guys. Epstein, whose source of wealth is not known, was clearly an asset of a security agency. Acosta said as much.


The deep State is always looking for leverage with politicians. The FBI had evidence of Martin Luther King’s adultry. If you were gay, into drag, kink, slept around they had this information. They held it over you head.

These days none of this matters to most so the one sexual proclivity that still shocks or can end a career is Pedophilia, in the case with Epstein he was an ephebophile himself.

I think a lot of this was entrapment, the celebs and politicians were given massages by young girls where the age was uncertain. This was filmed and .. leverage.

lufties

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

There’s a conspiracy here but it’s bog all to do with Clinton. Do you think he still controls some kind of mafia?

We came. We saw. He died.

Pa ElGrande

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Guys. Epstein, whose source of wealth is not known, was clearly an asset of a security agency. Acosta said as much.

I think the money story is more interesting, lots of sketchy stuff there involving Epstein.


Jeffrey Epstein Chaired a $6.7 Billion Company that Documents Suggest May Have Received a Secret Federal Reserve Bailout


Trust keeps Powerball winner a mystery Only Lottery Commission knows who is now $29.3 millon richer.


Billionaire in sex crime case has NM ties


Jeffrey Epstein, Clinton’s State Department, NY’s art elite, and Ponzi schemes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuU3dy3OeJ8

Gatling

lufties wrote: »

We came. We saw. He died.

You forgot chemtrails and area 51½ too

Dohnjoe

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

The deep State

The what?

Dohnjoe

Gatling wrote: »

You forgot chemtrails and area 51½ too

Thought I'd take a gander at this thread to get some updates on the Epstein thing.. jesus christ, it's like Infowars in here

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Thought I'd take a gander at this thread to get some updates on the Epstein thing.. jesus christ, it's like Infowars in here

It’s nothing like infowars though is it? That’s a fairly typical response from someone whose worldview is that there is never ever a conspiracy. This is the worldview of a simpleton.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The what?

The deep state.

BloodBath

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Thought I'd take a gander at this thread to get some updates on the Epstein thing.. jesus christ, it's like Infowars in here

Stick to shilling in the conspiracy theory forum please.

Dohnjoe

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

It’s nothing like infowars though is it? That’s a fairly typical response from someone whose worldview is that there is never ever a conspiracy. This is the worldview of a simpleton.

It's to do with facts. Not the Alex Jones style drivel I am reading in here, with people jumping to baseless conclusions that conveniently fit whatever political alignment or fringe world view they hold

There are at least two separate investigations taking place, a possible third (by an external country). Info is emerging from the union that the facility was severely understaffed, officers were working 80 hour weeks, gaps meant that augmentation took place (other professionals such as nurses filling in for prison staff), one officer was allegedly on his 5th day of overtime. Reportedly there were lapses in protocol, that his cellmate was transferred, that he wasn't checked every 30 mins. For a man who had demonstrated that he was willing to try suicide, that is terrible supervision. So maybe it's some big conspiracy to off him or maybe he was a (willing) victim of a ****ty US jail system. I'll wait for the facts/info.

Oh sorry, momentary lapse there, it was definitely Killary and the deep state and Mossad!

lufties

Gatling wrote: »

You forgot chemtrails and area 51½ too

Oh really? So your denying the witch said that?

BloodBath

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's to do with facts. Not the Alex Jones style drivel I am reading in here, with people jumping to baseless conclusions that conveniently fit whatever political alignment or fringe world view they hold

There are at least two separate investigations taking place, a possible third (by an external country). Info is emerging from the union that the facility was severely understaffed, officers were working 80 hour weeks, gaps meant that augmentation took place (other professionals such as nurses filling in for prison staff), one officer was allegedly on his 5th day of overtime. Reportedly there were lapses in protocol, that his cellmate was transferred, that he wasn't checked every 30 mins. For a man who had demonstrated that he was willing to try suicide, that is terrible supervision. So maybe it's some big conspiracy to off him or maybe he was a (willing) victim of a ****ty US jail system. I'll wait for the facts/info.

Oh sorry, momentary lapse there, it was definitely Killary and the deep state and Mossad!

Where are you getting your "facts"? Snopes?

You are the opposite of a conspiracy theorist who believes everything is a conspiracy. You believe nothing is unless MSM and government agencies tell you otherwise. Equally obsessed about your stance and equally naive.

Why do you jump into any thread mentioning conspiracies to down play them and mock those suggesting more than we're being told? That's pretty obsessive.

Of course people are going to speculate about the highly suspicious circumstances surrounding this when little to nothing is coming from official channels.

These kind of cover ups happen all the time. If he was procuring young girls for the elite do you not find the circumstances of this case suspicious? We know he was being charged with running an underage sex trafficking ring and that he had many connections with powerful people, many of which were implicated in some of the documents that were unsealed.

He already got away with his previous charges through some greasy deal that also needs to be investigated.

Now the case is closed and may never result in any prosecutions because Epstein was key to everything and all the evidence collected to convict him will never see the light of day. Go ahead and wait for your "facts" though so you can parrot what the MSM tells you to think.

Dohnjoe

BloodBath wrote: »

Where are you getting your "facts"? Snopes?

AP, Reuters, international press reports

You are the opposite of a conspiracy theorist who believes everything is a conspiracy. You believe nothing is unless MSM and government agencies tell you otherwise. Equally obsessed about your stance and equally naive.

Why do you jump into any thread mentioning conspiracies to down play them and mock those suggesting more than we're being told? That's pretty obsessive.

Of course people are going to speculate about the highly suspicious circumstances surrounding this when little to nothing is coming from official channels.

These kind of cover ups happen all the time. If he was procuring young girls for the elite do you not find the circumstances of this case suspicious? We know he was being charged with running an underage sex trafficking ring and that he had many connections with powerful people, many of which were implicated in some of the documents that were unsealed.

He already got away with his previous charges through some greasy deal that also needs to be investigated.

Now the case is closed and may never result in any prosecutions because Epstein was key to everything and all the evidence collected to convict him will never see the light of day. Go ahead and wait for your "facts" though so you can parrot what the MSM tells you to think.

Thanks, am not interested in personal world views, just the facts.

BloodBath

We all wanted the facts. We're conveniently not going to get them now. This is what stirs speculation.

evolving_doors

Dohnjoe wrote: »

AP, Reuters, international press reports



Thanks, am not interested in personal world views, just the facts.

What facts are you looking for?

Pa ElGrande

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

The deep state.

The Internal War in the Deep State Claims Its High Profile Casualty: Jeffrey Epstein

The conflict has now reached the hot-war stage where bodies are turning up, explained away by the usual laughable covers: "suicide," "accident" and "heart attack." That Jeffrey Epstein's death in a secure cell is being labeled "suicide" tells us quite a lot about the desperation of the faction trying to protect the self-serving predators that have wormed their way into control of many Deep State nodes of power.


Here's the basic structure of the Deep State conflict as I see it. For context: The Deep State exploded in size and power during World War II. At the war's end, the proper role of the U.S. in the postwar era was up for grabs, and over the course of a few years, the CIA and other intelligence agencies were established and the doctrine of containment of the Soviet Union became the dominant narrative, a narrative that held with remarkable consistency for four decades until the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

This collapse was another critical juncture, and debates over America's role in this "unipolar era" were finally settled in favor of the militarily-geopolitically activist ideology of neoconservatism (Neocons).

This globalist ideology spawned a variety of monstrous policy disasters and as a result the Neocons have been challenged by factions within the Deep State.

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Pa ElGrande

Connecting Epstein with offshore money, Michail Prochorow, Felix Sater and Russian mafia

A source who spoke with journalist Vicky Ward said one of Epstein’s clients was the late Saudi arms dealer Khashoggi, a middleman in the Iran-Contra scandal who helped smuggle cash for the Marcos family out of the Philippines. In 1988, Khashoggi was arrested in Switzerland for concealing assets and later faced fraud and racketeering charges in the U.S. (He was later acquitted.) That year, he sold his 282-foot yacht to the Sultan of Brunei, who soon flipped it to Donald Trump.
<snip>
Later, before dissolving, Bayrock was sued by a former finance director, Jody Kriss. As reported by Unger in Vanity Fair:

His complaint alleged that Bayrock was “covertly mob-owned and operated,” “backed by oligarchs and money they stole from the Russian people,” and “engaged in the businesses of financial-institution fraud, tax fraud, partnership fraud, human trafficking, child prostitution, statutory rape, and, on occasion, real estate.” The suit claimed that Bayrock had defrauded Kriss and Ejekam and “never intended to honor” promised payments. Instead, the real purpose of the company, it said, in addition to marketing expensive condos bearing the Trump brand, was “to launder many millions of dollars and evade taxes.”


There is also real evidence Sater has deep ties to intelligence agencies, including U.S. intelligence. In 2014, Sater was named the man of the year of the Port Washington, NY, Chabad. It’s possible the over-the-top speech his rabbi gave, about intelligence professionals lauding Sater for saving untold lives, is generally true. At her 2015 confirmation hearing, Loretta Lynch said Sater provided “information crucial to national security and the conviction of over 20 individuals, including those responsible for committing massive financial fraud and members of La Cosa Nostra.”’


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Stephen Colbert did the public relations for the Russian Oligarch Mikhail Prokhorov.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5YJ7mh8zWc

chicorytip

He was a rich, corrupt paedophile who killed himself. So what! End of story. Nothing more here.

ChikiChiki

This is just very odd. Especially the leaked picture to the papers.

o1s1n

chicorytip wrote: »

He was a rich, corrupt paedophile who killed himself. So what! End of story. Nothing more here.

And the others who are implicated..?

Pa ElGrande

chicorytip wrote: »

He was a rich, corrupt paedophile who killed himself. So what! End of story. Nothing more here.

There are still his enablers.

With Epstein Gone, Will Focus Turn to Ghislaine Maxwell?


And the people who allegedly engaged in activity with the underage girls.


Sex-Slave Titles Unveiled in Tranche of Jeffrey Epstein Files



Ad the people who will be glad of the distraction and those with more work to do as a result.


He Did What… ! ? !

Meanwhile, any number of disgraced federal officials, whose misdeeds are richly documented in the public record, remain on the loose. Andrew McCabe, Bruce, Ohr, Peter Strzok, James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, and many more — once the cream of the upper echelons of federal authority! The Epstein debacle puts more pressure on William Barr, John Durham, and Michael Horowitz to get on with their jobs. All these unresolved mysteries give Americans a reason to want to arm themselves against a recklessly rogue and sinister government

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NoteAgent

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

It was the only way they could kill him I suppose. Dead men don't talk. Rich men who are not incarcerated can afford plenty of security. Yet another dead man to add to the body count that had dirt on the Clintons.

Have you proof he was murdered?

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.ft.com/content/1dbd3d2e-bce9-11e9-b350-db00d509634e




William Barr said at a conference in New Orleans on Monday that he was “angry” that the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York had failed to keep Epstein alive.

“We will get to the bottom of what happened, and there will be accountability,” said Mr Barr.





Prison guards were supposed to check on Epstein every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed for at least several hours on the night of his death, according to the person.

Epstein’s cellmate was removed on Friday and not replaced, the person added.

BorneTobyWilde

Cellmate removed, as to strengthen the suicide story no doubt, then left alone for 7 hours. Enough time for those people in power to get access to strangle him.

martingriff

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

It was the only way they could kill him I suppose. Dead men don't talk. Rich men who are not incarcerated can afford plenty of security. Yet another dead man to add to the body count that had dirt on the Clintons.

He was killed by the Clintons. You should go to the police, FOX, and set up a youtube channel to show it. Oh wait you don't. Lots of people would love him dead Clintons been 1 and a certain man called Donald Trump been another

martingriff

Is it true with him dead it be easier to search his properties. Not saying there may be anything there unless he left evidence for insurance if he dies.

Cheerful Spring2

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Cellmate removed, as to strengthen the suicide story no doubt, then left alone for 7 hours. Enough time for those people in power to get access to strangle him.

Suicide details are changing every day. Now unnamed sources claim one of two guards watching Epstein was not properly trained and was not even a corrections officer. Who is he? Seven hours he was left alone another source. The papers are running these stories and not questioning it. Rules for this prison not followed. The only reason you not follow the rules you got paid off and some of the prison guards and staff may have got brown envelopes with money. There so much wrong with this story don't even know where to begin. The cells had cameras it lie they don't and this now brushed under the rug. Tomorrow we might have new narrative.

Cheerful Spring2

chicorytip wrote: »

He was a rich, corrupt paedophile who killed himself. So what! End of story. Nothing more here.

Lot of people who knew Epstein made a claim he be dead before the court trial, he knew too much.

Excuse can be made, the MCC prison was negligent the first time. Nobody sane though buys it they failed a second time to protect him. The Prison staff should be all sacked and replaced if they not able to protect a high profile prisoner like Epstein. Something sinister happened at the prison, will the details come out i have my doubts, but i can hope.

Cheerful Spring2

BloodBath wrote: »

Where are you getting your "facts"? Snopes?

You are the opposite of a conspiracy theorist who believes everything is a conspiracy. You believe nothing is unless MSM and government agencies tell you otherwise. Equally obsessed about your stance and equally naive.

Why do you jump into any thread mentioning conspiracies to down play them and mock those suggesting more than we're being told? That's pretty obsessive.

Of course people are going to speculate about the highly suspicious circumstances surrounding this when little to nothing is coming from official channels.

These kind of cover ups happen all the time. If he was procuring young girls for the elite do you not find the circumstances of this case suspicious? We know he was being charged with running an underage sex trafficking ring and that he had many connections with powerful people, many of which were implicated in some of the documents that were unsealed.

He already got away with his previous charges through some greasy deal that also needs to be investigated.

Now the case is closed and may never result in any prosecutions because Epstein was key to everything and all the evidence collected to convict him will never see the light of day. Go ahead and wait for your "facts" though so you can parrot what the MSM tells you to think.

Officials are now claiming they can't locate Ghislaine Maxwell, whereabouts. She buried somewhere now in the dirt or she hiding out somewhere. There should be a global warrant send out for her to be arrested. She should be in jail long time ago for what she did to those girls.

hetuzozaho

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Rules for this prison not followed. The only reason you not follow the rules you got paid off .

People don't follow rules all the time

archer22

Has anybody explained how this guy could hang himself in a room that has been specifically designed so that nobody can hang themselves in there!.

Or has his cause of death story changed yet again?....I find it hard to keep up with this ever changing story :rolleyes:

volchitsa

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Suicide details are changing every day. Now unnamed sources claim one of two guards watching Epstein was not properly trained and was not even a corrections officer. Who is he? Seven hours he was left alone another source. The papers are running these stories and not questioning it. Rules for this prison not followed. The only reason you not follow the rules you got paid off and some of the prison guards and staff may have got brown envelopes with money. There so much wrong with this story don't even know where to begin. The cells had cameras it lie they don't and this now brushed under the rug. Tomorrow we might have new narrative.

This post basically 2+2 equal 4 million. Or more.

(It isn't even in self-respecting "Russian" English, it seems to be made-up gobbledygook.)

Pa ElGrande

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhD00l-IUIg

Epstein His Connection to “The Club” of Manipulators

The fascinating connection her is Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell who I believe was a member of “The Club” deeply involved with Salomon Brothers and had dealings also with Goldman Sachs. You got it. The official report issued by Britain’s Department of Trade and Industry said investment bank Goldman Sachs Group, Inc had “substantial responsibility” for allowing Mr. Maxwell to manipulate the stock market prior to the collapse of his businesses reported the Wall Street Journal back in April 2001.


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The mystery of Maxwell's death

An inquest into his death failed to answer any of the key questions. The medical evidence was equivocal. Three pathologists who performed post-mortem examinations failed to agree about the circumstances of his death. One concluded he died of a heart attack, another said he suffered a heart attack and drowned while a third dismissed the heart condition as a cause of death saying Maxwell had fallen into the sea and drowned.
Such contradiction and inconsistency only served to trigger a flood of theories attempting to explain his possible state of mind and the circumstances of his demise.

EltonJohn69

Apparently a private jet hired by Clinton associates was seen hovering above the jail shortly before Epstein’s body was discovered..... coincidence ?

Eric Cartman

martingriff wrote: »

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

It was the only way they could kill him I suppose. Dead men don't talk. Rich men who are not incarcerated can afford plenty of security. Yet another dead man to add to the body count that had dirt on the Clintons.

He was killed by the Clintons. You should go to the police, FOX, and set up a youtube channel to show it. Oh wait you don't. Lots of people would love him dead Clintons been 1 and a certain man called Donald Trump been another

Donald trump barred him from mar a lago for behaviour with a young girl and his appointed AG under his watch was prosecuting the lad and are now actively speaking out against how he was allowed to ‘kill himself’ , if donny has things to hide here then he’s sure as hell doing a terrible job at suppressing the case.

JustJoe7240

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Apparently a private jet hired by Clinton associates was seen hovering above the jail shortly before Epstein’s body was discovered..... coincidence ?

Jets don't hover

mrsdewinter

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Apparently a private jet hired by Clinton associates was seen hovering above the jail shortly before Epstein’s body was discovered..... coincidence ?

Firstly, jets - by their nature - don't hover. If they stop mid-air, they fall out of the sky.

Secondly, how would 'a private jet hired by' ANYBODY be immediately identifiable by sight? It would look like a regular jet, it would not have the livery 'on hire to Clinton associates'.

EltonJohn69

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

Jets don't hover

Are you suggesting the Clintons have access to advanced technology ? Perhaps inter dimensional based technology ? I wouldn’t discount it.... it’s definitely a strong point that needs to be addressed.....

ohnonotgmail

martingriff wrote: »

Is it true with him dead it be easier to search his properties. Not saying there may be anything there unless he left evidence for insurance if he dies.

well there is actually one benefit to the prosecutors with him being dead. the evidence that was gathered from his properties can not be challenged if it is used to prosecute anybody else involved. the only person who could challenge the validity of the search warrants (and hence whether the evidence could be used in court, fruit of the poisoned tree and all that) was epstein himself.

Eric Cartman

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Apparently a private jet hired by Clinton associates was seen hovering above the jail shortly before Epstein’s body was discovered..... coincidence ?

Jets don't hover

Well except tye harrier, but the clintons don’t have a harrier.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Dohnjoe wrote: »

There are at least two separate investigations taking place, a possible third (by an external country). Info is emerging from the union that the facility was severely understaffed, officers were working 80 hour weeks, gaps meant that augmentation took place (other professionals such as nurses filling in for prison staff), one officer was allegedly on his 5th day of overtime. Reportedly there were lapses in protocol, that his cellmate was transferred, that he wasn't checked every 30 mins. For a man who had demonstrated that he was willing to try suicide, that is terrible supervision. So maybe it's some big conspiracy to off him or maybe he was a (willing) victim of a ****ty US jail system. I'll wait for the facts/info.

Oh ffs. Of course any cover up is going to say that. But how did he even get the equipment to hang himself and where did he hang himself from?

That facility never had a suicide before as it happens.

Oh sorry, momentary lapse there, it was definitely Killary and the deep state and Mossad!

The Clinton stuff is bogus alright.