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Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Anyone hear about Ol' Jeffrey in Dublin with Bono , Bertie and Bill in 2002?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    KiKi III wrote: »
    Wonder if she’ll dish the dirt and claim she was a victim too for a deal. Hope she names names and points to damning evidence.

    She'll have committed suicide before we find out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Not a hope she will last the month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭PixieValentine


    God I hope they wrap her up in bubble wrap and have, like, 50 guards on her at all times. SOMEONE has to pay for what those poor girls were put through all those years, and she should be top of the list of the someones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    To see the headline that she makes a deal, make it happen!

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    From what I have seen in the news, on Panorama, on Netflix documentaries etc. it seems she was more than knee deep in Epstein's carry on, so it is hard to see how she doesn't end up serving some serious time over this. Obviously throwing Andy under the bus potentially gives her an out, so as others have mentioned if I was Andrew, I would be shítting myself!

    Hopefully justice is done, because both Andrew and Ghislain seem to have committed some heinous crimes, and regardless of their status, they should pay the penalty for what they have done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,573 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Only a matter of time before she ''throws herself '' out of the window of a basement and dies of her injuries, or drowns in a bowl of steam.

    Here we are again, Trump shaking in his boots, Clinton shaking in his boots, Andrew shaking in his boots, and many other powerful men shaking in their boots.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Jenna James


    She needs to do some time and bring many others with her.

    I feel sick looking at her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Inquitus wrote: »
    From what I have seen in the news, on Panorama, on Netflix documentaries etc. it seems she was more than knee deep in Epstein's carry on, so it is hard to see how she doesn't end up serving some serious time over this. Obviously throwing Andy under the bus potentially gives her an out, so as others have mentioned if I was Andrew, I would be shítting myself!

    Hopefully justice is done, because both Andrew and Ghislain seem to have committed some heinous crimes, and regardless of their status, they should pay the penalty for what they have done!

    giving up andrew wont save her. the fbi know that they cant go after him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,290 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    giving up andrew wont save her. the fbi know that they cant go after him.

    If Prince Andrew could sweat, he would be sweating right now....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    everlast75 wrote: »
    If Prince Andrew could sweat, he would be sweating right now....
    his life as a public person is finished and his mummy is very disappointed in him but that is the extent of the damage to him. the british will never extradite a royal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    She will give up some lower tier people I'm sure and cut a deal. The likes of the trumps and Clinton's will be safe. And Andrew is untouchable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,968 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Do the Windsors have diplomatic immunity?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Do the Windsors have diplomatic immunity?

    andrew travelled on a diplomatic passport. whether he still does is a bit moot as he wont be going anywhere for a while


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Hopefully she does a better job not suiciding herself while perhaps the highest profile prisoner in the country like Epstein did, though this also might explain why Trump/William Barr (who were subsequently unsuccessful in attempts to force their own replacement in) fired the head of the SDNY out of the blue about two weeks back when everyone was talking about the Oklahoma rally of his.

    If she doesn't fall on a half dozen bullets or whatever lazy excuse is given this time, it's going to be very interesting to see what they get out of her. A lot of high profile people from Trump, to Bill Clinton, to Prince Andrew might nit be sleeping easily tonight.

    https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2020/07/02/ghislaine-maxwell-arrested-in-connection-with-jeffrey-epstein-sex-trafficking-ring/?slreturn=20200602132758
    Ghislaine Maxwell, the longtime friend and close confidante of Jeffrey Epstein, was arrested Thursday in New Hampshire and charged in Manhattan federal court with helping the deceased financier run an underage sex trafficking ring that stretched from New York to London.

    In an unsealed indictment signed by acting U.S. Attorney Audrey Strauss, prosecutors in the Southern District of New York accused Maxwell, formerly a prominent British socialite, of befriending girls as young as 14 to engage in illegal sex acts with Epstein and then lying under oath about her involvement.

    According to the indictment, Maxwell “enticed and groomed” the girls for the illicit sexual encounters by taking them shopping or to the movies. Maxwell, prosecutors said, also discussed sexual topics with the girls and sometimes undressed in front of them in order to “normalize” the abuse.

    She also participated in some of the encounters, which included the girls performing topless massages on Epstein and touching him while he masturbated, prosecutors alleged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    She needs to do some time and bring many others with her.

    I feel sick looking at her.

    Her ould fella Robert Maxwell was likely mossad, every reason to believe she is with that agency or another western agency. Line up underage girls then video the lads, use it as blackmail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭PixieValentine


    everlast75 wrote: »
    If Prince Andrew could sweat, he would be sweating right now....

    I suspect he'll have suddenly realised today he can indeed :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Arrested by the SDNY... odd timing as Trump and William Barr forcibly removed the head of the SDNY only two weeks ago on the weekend of the Oklahoma rally but were unsuccessful at getting 'their guy' in there in his place.

    She likely won't last much longer than Epstein did as the highest profile prisoner in Barr's prison system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Andrew will be looked after.

    Remember this very private secret meeting... Coming all the way to the UK with Chelsea in tow as a cover...To see a new baby.
    www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7687095/amp/Hilary-Clinton-visited-Meghan-Markle-Frogmore-Cottage-Tuesday.html

    And a day or two later Andy 'decides' to bare his soul on TV.

    Never a whisper about bill n Jeff in Hillary interviews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Treppen wrote: »
    Andrew will be looked after.

    Remember this very private secret meeting... Coming all the way to the UK with Chelsea in tow as a cover...To see a new baby.
    www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7687095/amp/Hilary-Clinton-visited-Meghan-Markle-Frogmore-Cottage-Tuesday.html

    And a day or two later Andy 'decides' to bare his soul on TV.

    Never a whisper about bill n Jeff in Hillary interviews.
    Bill, Andrew and Donald sure won't be sleeping easily over the next few days. But I'm pretty sure another slip up in prison like last time followed by William Barr's department of Justice doing good as absolutely nothing to investigate it will do the trick.

    Bill visited Epsteins pedo Island a bunch of times, Andrew liked to stay over at his house, and Trump and Epstein were codefendants in a child rape case in the past before, after all.

    Sometimes it helps to have friends in high places. This isn't one of those times.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,290 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Ghislaine-Maxwell-didnt-kill-herself.jpg

    Yep!

    Hillary Clinton managed to organise the killing of Epstein while he was under the control and custody of Trump and Bill Barr!?

    If Epstein had the goods on Bill Clinton, do you think the complete cluster**** that was Epstein's supervision or lack thereof would have happened? You think Barr would bury (literally) the goods on a Trump opponent? Not a hope in hell.

    Without donning the tinfoil hat, *if* he was done in, who exactly had the resources, motive and people in control to make it happen?

    It isn't Hillary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Without donning the tinfoil hat, *if* he was done in, who exactly had the resources, motive and people in control to make it happen?

    It isn't Hillary.
    I'll take a wild guess it might be the person who was named as a codefendant for child rape with Epstein back in 1994, on a case that was investigated by the same SDNY that arrested Maxwell today, and the same SDNY that the US president was responsible for firing the head of only two weeks ago, before trying to lie about it and also stuff a crony in their place, which thankfully failed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    this is going to be fascinating in how it pans out, i wonder does she have a memory key with all the kinky videos that she can bargain with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    fryup wrote: »
    this is going to be fascinating in how it pans out, i wonder does she have a memory key with all the kinky videos that she can bargain with?

    Epistein had loads of material including pictures and videos removed from his house by the FBI along with the painting of Bill posing in a blue dress that was hanging on the wall. He had 21 different contact details for Bill Clinton, Maxwell was at Chelse Clinton's wedding. I don't believe Bill isn't wrapped up in this somewhere.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Ghislaine-Maxwell-didnt-kill-herself.jpg

    Low brow post. No such thing as a suicide hotline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,290 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Epistein had loads of material including pictures and videos removed from his house by the FBI along with the painting of Bill posing in a blue dress that was hanging on the wall. He had 21 different contact details for Bill Clinton, Maxwell was at Chelse Clinton's wedding. I don't believe Bill isn't wrapped up in this somewhere.



    Perhaps.

    All i hope is that *anyone*, regardless of political affiliation, gets their comeuppance and that she provides the smoking gun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Perhaps.

    All i hope is that *anyone*, regardless of political affiliation, gets their comeuppance and that she provides the smoking gun

    She'll exercise her right to silence. No benefit in implicating anyone but Epstein, she's needs as many powerful friends as possible on the outside.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    I have a feeling that she's going to contract covid 19 in the none too distant future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    This is going to be big, they have everything on tape...

    https://twitter.com/JesseBWatters/status/1278818482776227841?s=20


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    She'll exercise her right to silence. No benefit in implicating anyone but Epstein, she's needs as many powerful friends as possible on the outside.

    A reduced sentence is one very obvious benefit...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    She'll "commit suicide" while in custody with no witnesses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,937 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Low brow post. No such thing as a suicide hotline.

    116 123


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    I’d like to express my condolences to the family of Ghislaine Maxwell, former mistress of Jeffrey Epstein, who was found dead in mysterious circumstances next week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    This is going to be big, they have everything on tape...

    https://twitter.com/JesseBWatters/status/1278818482776227841?s=20

    Whilst the thoughts of her naming names is great, I hate the thought of her getting a reduced sentence at the same time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,290 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "If you're Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, a socialite, millionaire, celebrity, and you were involved in any way with something illegal in that sick little matrix between Maxwell and Epstein-I'd be worried because if you're Maxwell you're going to sing to reduce your sentence."

    Well, I suppose Trump is two out of the three criteria there, but in any event, why did Barr try to get rid of Berman a week ago? I guess we may find out next week when he appears before a Committee in Congress next week to explain...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I don't believe your going to see Trump wrapped up in this, these charges relate to 94-97, the public corruption legal team are the prosecution which is rare so it would lead me to assume the president at that time could be in a lot of trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I don't believe your going to see Trump wrapped up in this, these charges relate to 94-97, the public corruption legal team are the prosecution which is rare so it would lead me to assume the president at that time could be in a lot of trouble.

    Trump was a co-defendant in a child rape case that dates from that period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Trump was a co-defendant in a child rape case that dates from that period.

    He wasn't in public office, this isn't about him. I believe Trump knows exactly what went on, I don't think he has anything to be worried about as the Democrats wouldn't have let it sit this long if there was something to it, if you despise Trump I can see how you'd have some hope this will bring him down, I think it's the opposite Trump is dropping a nuke in the swamp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    He wasn't in public office, this isn't about him. I believe Trump knows exactly what went on, I don't think he has anything to be worried about as the Democrats wouldn't have let it sit this long if there was something to it, if you despise Trump I can see how you'd have some hope this will bring him down, I think it's the opposite Trump is dropping a nuke in the swamp.

    but he is in public office now. and he fired the head of the SDNY not 2 weeks ago. why would he do that if the SDNY were going after Clinton? why have epstein killed if he had information on Clinton?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Both Democrats and Republicans should be afraid.

    It's more likely that Democrats will have an unwelcome light shone upon them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    but he is in public office now. and he fired the head of the SDNY not 2 weeks ago. why would he do that if the SDNY were going after Clinton? why have epstein killed if he had information on Clinton?

    Your stretching there, the charges don't relate to today it's the period 1994-1997. Berman wasn't loyal to Trump, he was fired, Trump fires people constantly I wouldn't over read into it if he didn't like him.
    Trump has called out Clinton a few times, Trump didn't have Epstein killed I don't think anyone thinks that.
    It's going to take a lot of people some adjusting to see who the real bad guy is as it's not who they think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,290 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    He wasn't in public office, this isn't about him. I believe Trump knows exactly what went on, I don't think he has anything to be worried about as the Democrats wouldn't have let it sit this long if there was something to it, if you despise Trump I can see how you'd have some hope this will bring him down, I think it's the opposite Trump is dropping a nuke in the swamp.

    Right so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Right so...

    We'll see, there's a lot of people in Trouble who held public roles during that charge period, Trump isn't one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Your stretching there, the charges don't relate to today it's the period 1994-1997.
    Berman wasn't loyal to Trump, he was fired, Trump fires people constantly I wouldn't over read into it if he didn't like him.
    Trump has called out Clinton a few times, Trump didn't have Epstein killed I don't think anyone thinks that.
    It's going to take a lot of people some adjusting to see who the real bad guy is as it's not who they think.


    they dont? he was suicided in a prison system run by his lackey Barr. A lot of people think Clinton did it despite her having absolutely no authority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    joeguevara wrote: »
    I’d like to express my condolences to the family of Ghislaine Maxwell, former mistress of Jeffrey Epstein, who was found dead in mysterious circumstances next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    No they don't I suppose a few suffering from Trump derangement syndrome might believe Trump had Epstein killed, that just makes them look more crazy than they already are.
    Bill Clinton is probably the biggest name in the case but there's plenty more names on the flight registers and I'd assume home movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    No they don't I suppose a few suffering from Trump derangement syndrome might believe Trump had Epstein killed, that just makes them look more crazy than they already are.
    Bill Clinton is probably the biggest name in the case but there's plenty more names on the flight registers and I'd assume home movies.

    anybody that uses that stupid term trump derangement syndrome is not saying anything worth reading


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,452 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    anybody that uses that stupid term trump derangement syndrome is not saying anything worth reading

    What would you rather we call people with an obsession that Trump is the root of all evils. There praying this takes down Trump, they'll lose it when the penny drops it's going to make him stronger.
    It's hard to get your head around how evil the Clintons might actually be. Trump has called it from the start and consistently through his presidency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭mouldybiscuits


    anybody that uses that stupid term trump derangement syndrome is not saying anything worth reading

    This comment looks like a confirmed diagnosis. Trump derangement syndrome is definitely a thing. Some people will believe anything negative about him and disregard anything positive to fuel their hatred. Those type of people just brainlessly eat up whatever the media spews.


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