Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

hetuzozaho

mcmoustache wrote: »

This has been doing the rounds with the QAnon dumb@sses and other easily fooled types. Where did you find it anyway?

The image link used comes up as first image in google image search for "epstein flight log" and is from this reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/EpsteinAndFriends/comments/emvk4c/list_of_names_for_the_epstein_flight_logs/

drunkmonkey

It's a pretty staggering list and a lot of connections in it domestic and internationally when you dig into it, even getting half way through the A's is a few books worth of material.

Srumbled across a Twitter account I won't link to it by John F Kennedy Junior, some of Trumps base can't wait for this if i'm understanding them correctly, it's all part of his plan to blow the lid off an international child trafficking network. Seemingly at marker 9 it's going to trigger a great awakening in the population.
May grab some popcorn.

Treppen

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's a pretty staggering list and a lot of connections in it domestic and internationally when you dig into it, even getting half way through the A's is a few books worth of material.

Srumbled across a Twitter account I won't link to it by John F Kennedy Junior, some of Trumps base can't wait for this if i'm understanding them correctly, it's all part of his plan to blow the lid off an international child trafficking network. Seemingly at marker 9 it's going to trigger a great awakening in the population.
May grab some popcorn.

What's marker 9

Tea drinker

Treppen wrote: »

What's marker 9

some BS at a guess

tdf7187

chicorytip wrote: »

How did Epstein amass a five hundred million dollar fortune and where is that money now? He had a fake degree and got sacked from his first job. It is unclear what precisely he did for a living. Betted on the stock market??

Spot on, this is the key question. I used to follow the financial markets quite closely and had never heard of the guy until the media exposes re his alleged sexual crimes.

2u2me

joeguevara wrote: »

Obviously not wanting this to descend into a conspiracy theory but the way people believed that he had died without question is strange. For someone who kept meticulous records he would have had to have a dead mans switch that if he was killed would automatically expose all of his friends.

You could argue there was appropriate time for such a 'dead man's switch' to be found and neutralized.

That Maxwell was found alive is what strikes me as odd. If the conspiracy theories are to be believed and some powerful people got to Epstein, surely they could have found Maxwell aswell before she got apprehended.

Carfacemandog

Tea drinker wrote: »

some BS at a guess

Looks like it, given that a) JFK Jr of course died in 1999 and b) google sent me to a QAnon conspiracy account when I looked up the twitter account.

So we're now up to a random list of names including multiple entries and misspellings of Epsteins own name posted by someone on reddit who claims they they 'just got it off google and some **** quite was here' without anything further as to where exactly... and now a QAnon account.

We all know some high profile people were involved, and I would assume Andrew, Trump and Clinton are all deeply so given what we do know about the three of them and Epstein. But nonsense like the two examples above is so useless that it actually pulls off the amazing feat of making what it claims look seem less credible, if anything.

Carfacemandog

tdf7187 wrote: »

Spot on, this is the key question. I used to follow the financial markets quite closely and had never heard of the guy until the media exposes re his alleged sexual crimes.

I'm pretty sure Tea Drinker hit the nail on the head when they said a lot of blackmail. It's only a vague memory so I might be wrong, but I do recall a good few people in that industry saying the same as you when he was arrested/suicided - that he was never known much as a player in the financial world, that he really didn't investmuch of anything through his life, and that his returns were mediocre at best.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.barrons.com/amp/articles/jeffrey-epstein-was-no-market-wizard-his-returns-lagged-behind-the-market-51563381839

drunkmonkey

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Looks like it, given that a) JFK Jr of course died in 1999 and b) google sent me to a QAnon conspiracy account when I looked up the twitter account.

So we're now up to a random list of names including multiple entries and misspellings of Epsteins own name posted by someone on reddit who claims they they 'just got it off google and some **** quite was here' without anything further as to where exactly... and now a QAnon account.

We all know some high profile people were involved, and I would assume Andrew, Trump and Clinton are all deeply so given what we do know about the three of them and Epstein. But nonsense like the two examples above is so useless that it actually pulls off the amazing feat of making what it claims look seem less credible, if anything.

You talk about conspiracy theories them throw in Trump with Andrew and Clinton. That's you being a conspiracy theorist.

Qanon supposedly has millions of followers, they are often seen at Trump rallys. Fake news seems to take note they've started publishing stories on them in the last 24hrs warning about their right wing ideology and why there a threat to you.
When you see CNN at it you know there's something up, has Anderson Cooper anything to explain I wonder.

Qanon is the rights answer to antifa, should be an interesting fight as Q goes mainstream and into public office.

https://twitter.com/cjtruth/status/1279154688173228032?s=20

Gods Gift

chicorytip wrote: »

How did Epstein amass a five hundred million dollar fortune and where is that money now? He had a fake degree and got sacked from his first job. It is unclear what precisely he did for a living. Betted on the stock market??

Didn’t he become very good friends with the man behind Victoria secrets and for some unknown reason end up with a sh1t load of his money, mansion and the famous plane. Wexnar think his name was. Called Epstein the most loyal friend anyone could have.

Epstein and Victoria’s secrets. Talking about putting a Fox in charge of the chickens.

Treppen

tdf7187 wrote: »

Spot on, this is the key question. I used to follow the financial markets quite closely and had never heard of the guy until the media exposes re his alleged sexual crimes.

Hoffenburg Ponzi scheme. Hoffenburg 20 years, Epstein did zilch.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hoffenberg

But rewind back again at how he went from fake physics teacher to financial whizz.

He moved into 'diplomacy' when around the time he paired up with Maxwell. Hence his keen ties with Andrew, you can read about the money scandals involving fergie too. Once your in that game it's arms deals and political puppetry for undeveloped Nations.... Loadsa money...

joeguevara

Trump was listed on manifest which was unsealed for a trial. Palm Beach International to New ark. Now interestingly what airport is last airport to virgin islands... Mmmmm.... Also why does trump need to be hitching lifts, doesn't he have his own jet.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs-unsealed-2019-8%3famp

political analyst

KiKi III wrote: »

She was named to the FBI years ago by the first two sisters they interview in the documentary on Netflix. They reported what happened to the local police, but were told that because Epstein flew them out of state they had no jurisdiction and they’d have to go to the FBI, which they did.

And she didn't think there was a likelihood that the FBI would be looking for her?

political analyst

Ghislaine doesn't come across as a woman who finds other women or girls sexually attractive. To be honest, I think this case sounds very Amanda Knox.

ohnonotgmail

political analyst wrote: »

And she didn't think there was a likelihood that the FBI would be looking for her?

thats why she didnt buy the house she was found in in her own name. it was bought in the name of an LLC.

joeguevara

political analyst wrote: »

Ghislaine doesn't come across as a woman who finds other women or girls sexually attractive. To be honest, I think this case sounds very Amanda Knox.

I don't think Amanda knox was a fixer and key role in one of the worlds biggest paedophile rings.

silverharp

There is something that she may be included in his original sweetheart deal, which included "co conspirators"

ohnonotgmail

silverharp wrote: »

There is something that she may be included in his original sweetheart deal, which included "co conspirators"

I was reading about that today. the original deal covered offences in a specific period of time. the offences she is charged with took place outside that period.

joeguevara

I never had relations with that woman

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/05/27/book-claims-bill-clinton-had-an-affair-with-ghislaine-maxwell/amp/

hetuzozaho

joeguevara wrote: »

I never had relations with that woman

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/05/27/book-claims-bill-clinton-had-an-affair-with-ghislaine-maxwell/amp/

Well if that's all he was doing then he'll be alright I guess!?

joeguevara

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Well if that's all he was doing then he'll be alright I guess!?

Hillary would be more worried about her links to the podestas

Muahahaha

joeguevara wrote: »

Trump was listed on manifest which was unsealed for a trial. Palm Beach International to New ark. Now interestingly what airport is last airport to virgin islands... Mmmmm.... Also why does trump need to be hitching lifts, doesn't he have his own jet.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs-unsealed-2019-8%3famp

I dont think Trumps Boeing 757 would be able to land on the airstrip of a small private island. Even if it could I doubt he would have wanted it photographed parked up on a place known as Paedophile Island by the locals.

Reports in todays papers of a confidante of Maxwells saying that she told her she would never give Andrew up. Thats only going to wind up the prosecutors, its pratically signalling that she has something to give up but is refusing to do it. The same conidante is also quoted as saying Maxwell told her that she wanted to get out of grooming young girls but she kept having to do one more and then one more all in the hope of Jeffery marrying her.

joeguevara

Muahahaha wrote: »

I dont think Trumps Boeing 757 would be able to land on the airstrip of a small private island. Even if it could I doubt he would have wanted it photographed parked up on a place known as Paedophile Island by the locals.

Reports in todays papers of a confidante of Maxwells saying that she told her she would never give Andrew up. Thats only going to wind up the prosecutors, its pratically signalling that she has something to give up but is refusing to do it. The same conidante is also quoted as saying Maxwell told her that she wanted to get out of grooming young girls but she kept having to do one more and then one more all in the hope of Jeffery marrying her.

That manifest is from epstein plane from palm beach international to New ark. Why would someone with a jet such as trump need to be put a lift on a plane owned by epstein.

joeguevara

Ghislaine Maxwell has stated that she will never 'sell out' Prince Andrew.

Apologies, that should be Dame Ghislaine Maxwell.

ohnonotgmail

joeguevara wrote: »

Ghislaine Maxwell has stated that she will never 'sell out' Prince Andrew.

Apologies, that should be Dame Ghislaine Maxwell (deceased).

FYP

Muahahaha

joeguevara wrote: »

That manifest is from epstein plane from palm beach international to New ark. Why would someone with a jet such as trump need to be put a lift on a plane owned by epstein.

I thought the manifest was to the private island, no? Its pretty irrelevant anyway, they were mates so there could be any number of reasons as to why Trump was on Epsteins private jet instead of his own. One of those reasons might have been that Epstein used his jet much the same way he used his NY mansion and private island- there were girls on board the jet and anything and everything happened. One witness on the Netflix doc said when his jet was on the way to the Caribbean Epstein was having sex openly in front of everyone on board. Orgies on the jet were part of what he organised.

political analyst

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

thats why she didnt buy the house she was found in in her own name. it was bought in the name of an LLC.

That brings me back to my original question: why did she stay in the US when she knew she was under suspicion? Would the Feds have enough evidence to arrest her if she had decided to leave the US when Epstein was remanded in custody?

political analyst

joeguevara wrote: »

Ghislaine Maxwell has stated that she will never 'sell out' Prince Andrew.

Apologies, that should be Dame Ghislaine Maxwell.

She can't sell him out if she doesn't have anything that would incriminate him.

joeguevara

Muahahaha wrote: »

I thought the manifest was to the private island, no? Its pretty irrelevant anyway, they were mates so there could be any number of reasons as to why Trump was on Epsteins private jet instead of his own. One of those reasons might have been that Epstein used his jet much the same way he used his NY mansion and private island- there were girls on board the jet and anything and everything happened. One witness on the Netflix doc said when his jet was on the way to the Caribbean Epstein was having sex openly in front of everyone on board. Orgies on the jet were part of what he organised.

No the manifest I quoted was palm Beach International to New ark. It was unsealed in a previous defamation case.

joeguevara

political analyst wrote: »

She can't sell him out if she doesn't have anything that would incriminate him.

I suppose we can both believe what we believe. Neither will be persuaded by what each other say. Interesting times ahead though.

4068ac1elhodqr

political analyst wrote: »

She can't sell him out if she doesn't have anything that would incriminate him.

Lols!

Treppen

joeguevara wrote: »

I never had relations with that woman

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/05/27/book-claims-bill-clinton-had-an-affair-with-ghislaine-maxwell/amp/

The 'affair with Maxwell' sounds like a cover story. She was a go-between, same as her father.

chicorytip

political analyst wrote: »

Ghislaine doesn't come across as a woman who finds other women or girls sexually attractive. To be honest, I think this case sounds very Amanda Knox.

At least one of the "Netflix" accusers claimed to have been molested by Maxwell. Her relationship with Epstein was mutually beneficial but may not have had a sexual element to it. She got him girls and enjoyed the lifestyle his money provided her. I don't think she had any (money) of her own.

joeguevara

political analyst wrote: »

That brings me back to my original question: why did she stay in the US when she knew she was under suspicion? Would the Feds have enough evidence to arrest her if she had decided to leave the US when Epstein was remanded in custody?

US is probably safest place for her. She is not worried about any trial. Its getting to a trial would be her biggest concern.

Quantum Erasure

joeguevara wrote: »

No the manifest I quoted was palm Beach International to New ark. It was unsealed in a previous defamation case.

is that EWR airport, Newark, New Jersey (serves New York)

blocstock

political analyst wrote: »

She can't sell him out if she doesn't have anything that would incriminate him.

their already picture of him with one of the victims that got leaked .I assume she has even juicers pictures and vids hidden away somewhere

joeguevara

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

is that EWR airport, Newark, New Jersey (serves New York)

Yes NJ.

lalababa

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

With truly nothing to hide he'd have been over to US first time of asking, the guy is a child abuser full stop.

I think one should distinguish between paedophilia and teleiophilia.
Also apparently Prince Andrew's accuser was 17 , which was legal consent age in both countries where sex was said to occur.
Not that I'm condoning anything🙄

drunkmonkey

She seems to be on a roll the last 24hrs..

https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1279398639148961792?s=20


https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1279627147481661441?s=20

Treppen

Great story here tying things together.

https://medium.com/@TheHimmmm/nasty-business-a-himmmm-blind-item-story-6fc0c8147f5a

No photos of gislane so far!
Is it her?

Muahahaha

Treppen wrote: »

Great story here tying things together.

https://medium.com/@TheHimmmm/nasty-business-a-himmmm-blind-item-story-6fc0c8147f5a

No photos of gislane so far!
Is it her?

Thats a long read but interesting.

Who is the Russian oligarch? Who is the person labelled as "Princess"? And what Latin American country are they talking about with the dictator, is it Nicuragua?

Im presuming the A lister who was filming on the private island was Kevin Spacey

drunkmonkey

This is well in the conspiracy dimension but watch Avichi's last video before his death until the end. This isn't something I found on the internet it just struck me watching YouTube this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-knHXSKYY

Who's got a gold ring and smokes large cigars?? There was a rumour Avichi died as a result of work he was doing on a documentary about child smuggling. It was debunked at the time, looking back today though, you'd wonder who he was referring to with the gold ring and a cigar, maybe it's a just a coincidence and Avichi did commit suicide.

hetuzozaho

A cigar and a gold ring. Pretty clear cut I'd say

kingtiger

drunkmonkey wrote: »

you'd wonder who he was referring to with the gold ring and a cigar

that could be anybody

drunkmonkey

kingtiger wrote: »

that could be anybody

Could be the ring fits, (Christ that sounds bad) but it looks like the guy in the video is a grey haired politican.

ohnonotgmail

drunkmonkey wrote: »

This is well in the conspiracy dimension but watch Avichi's last video before his death until the end. This isn't something I found on the internet it just struck me watching YouTube this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-knHXSKYY

Who's got a gold ring and smokes large cigars?? There was a rumour Avichi died as a result of work he was doing on a documentary about child smuggling. It was debunked at the time, looking back today though, you'd wonder who he was referring to with the gold ring and a cigar, maybe it's a just a coincidence and Avichi did commit suicide.

who wears a gold ring? pretty much every married man.

political analyst

blocstock wrote: »

their already picture of him with one of the victims that got leaked .I assume she has even juicers pictures and vids hidden away somewhere

Him apparently having his arm around Virginia's waste doesn't prove criminality on his part - and that's if the photo is even real, given that his arm appears exceedingly long!

joeguevara

The recent Anonymous disclosure on this is the most interesting description of this. The one thing that I had not heard previously was Princess Diana was going to blow the whistle on Andrew and Epstein and was the reason for her murder.

4068ac1elhodqr

political analyst wrote: »

...and that's if the photo is even real, given that his arm appears exceedingly long!

'Long arm theory' seems legit (lol, actually it looks perfectly normal, well except for it being wrapped around a teenager).



Maybe those charities will all reinstate him asap!
It's a wonder no one ever came up with this before to save all the fuss.

Treppen

Muahahaha wrote: »

Thats a long read but interesting.

Who is the Russian oligarch? Who is the person labelled as "Princess"? And what Latin American country are they talking about with the dictator, is it Nicuragua?

Im presuming the A lister who was filming on the private island was Kevin Spacey

The suggested names are here

https://chaosinformation.wordpress.com/2020/07/05/total-disclosuredeep-dives-fear-loathing-in-venezuela-venezualas-nasty-buseness/