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Incident at Lost Lane on Saturday

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    #272
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,988 ✭✭✭circadian


    Heres Johnny wrote: »
    Nothing as precious as white people being offended by black racism. Or non travelers being offended when people insult travelers.

    Just don't insult gingers or you'll have to answer to me because my 3rd best friend from the age of 5 to 8 was tinged a bit ginger.

    Ah right, so people shouldn't defend the rights of others because it doesn't directly affect them?

    Here's a reality check, the vast majority of the population don't like racism, don't like sexism, don't like discrimination in any form regardless of whether or not they are a member of the group being discriminated against.


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    #273
    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    I don't believe you for one second. It's 2019 and unless you're very old and have been living down a hole for the last 50 years, there's no excuse for not knowing that 'coloured' is a racist term. You knew exactly what you were posting.

    I'm sure hes broken up knowing you don't believe him.


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    #274
    Il Fascista
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭Il Fascista


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    It was directed at anyone who isn't white, as it was used to describe exactly that.


    It was called out as offensive on this thread by someone who is mixed race, so I don't think we have the right to say otherwise.


    The term "person of color" (plural: people of color, persons of color; sometimes abbreviated POC)[1] today is used primarily in the United States to describe any person who is not European American or white. The term encompasses all non-white people, emphasizing common experiences of systemic racism.[2][3] The term may also be used with other collective categories of people such as "communities of color", "men of color" (MOC), and "women of color" (WOC).[4] The term "colored" was originally equivalent in use to the term person of color, but usage of the appellation "colored" in the Southern United States gradually came to be restricted to "negroes".[5]

    The feigned outrage is amusing


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    #275
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    I'm sure hes broken up knowing you don't believe him.

    He'll survive. I'm sure you and the other racists on here believe him.


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    #276
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    I don't believe you for one second. It's 2019 and unless you're very old and have been living down a hole for the last 50 years, there's no excuse for not knowing that 'coloured' is a racist term. You knew exactly what you were posting.

    Black people were always referred to as coloured when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. I actually thought it was more polite to refer to them as coloured than black but obviously I was wrong. It's probably more ignorance on my part than anything. Theres no racism intended.

    Do you think people would have been called racist in 1980s Ireland for using the term coloured?


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    #277
    OwlsZat
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    If you believe this attacked was carried out by a predominately black gang does that make you a racist?


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    #278
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    OwlsZat wrote: »
    If you believe this attacked was carried out by a predominately black gang does that make you a racist?

    They werent black they just had a suntan according to one poster earlier.


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    #279
    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    OwlsZat wrote: »
    If you believe this attacked was carried out by a predominately black gang does that make you a racist?

    Yes apparently so.


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    #280
    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    They werent black they just had a suntan according to one poster earlier.

    It's actually comical. How libtard do you have to be spout that ****e.


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    #281
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,988 ✭✭✭circadian


    OwlsZat wrote: »
    If you believe this attacked was carried out by a predominately black gang does that make you a racist?

    It depends on what that belief is based on. Purely because you expect this behaviour from black people? Then yes, that's outright racism. Believing the speculation without any actual concrete evidence as of yet? Maybe, it depends if it's a case of confirmation bias or not.

    Honestly, the people that carried out this attack are thugs, there's no two ways about it.

    Race shouldn't even be part of the discussion to be fair, it's only those that wish to derail the thread as they have on many others with the ****e about "send them home" etc etc. It's not even thinly veiled at this point, the same posters go into threads complaining about immigrants and blaming minority groups with swathing statements based on little or no facts whatsoever.


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    #282
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Black people were always referred to as coloured when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. I actually thought it was more polite to refer to them as coloured than black but obviously I was wrong. It's probably more ignorance on my part than anything. Theres no racism intended.

    Do you think people would have been called racist in 1980s Ireland for using the term coloured?

    So you've only been down a hole for thirty years then. Right, so.


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    #283
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Do you think people would have been called racist in 1980s Ireland for using the term coloured?

    Most likely not, but that was 40 years ago and 40 years back again would have most of the country without electricity, so we're slowly getting out of the stone age.


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    #284
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    So you've only been down a hole for thirty years then. Right, so.

    And has clearly never in his life spoken to a black person.


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    #285
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    So you've only been down a hole for thirty years then. Right, so.

    No I haven't I just never became aware that it was now infact racist to use the term. It wasnt then and nobody has ever corrected me on it until now.


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    #286
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    killbillvol2 wrote: »
    And has clearly never in his life spoken to a black person.

    Why do you say that?


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    #287
    martingriff
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    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Black people were always referred to as coloured when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. I actually thought it was more polite to refer to them as coloured than black but obviously I was wrong. It's probably more ignorance on my part than anything. Theres no racism intended.

    Do you think people would have been called racist in 1980s Ireland for using the term coloured?

    News flash we are not in the 80's or 90's. A lot of terms used in those decades are not used anymore


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    #288
    tuxy
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    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    No I haven't I just never became aware that it was now infact racist to use the term. It wasnt then and nobody has ever corrected me on it until now.

    I'm not even sure I consider it racist. It's just very odd to hear someone using a term that has not been used in Ireland for almost 40 years. That said I don't know what age you are and I am sure there are sill some people in their 70s and 80s still using it.


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    #289
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    tuxy wrote: »
    I'm not even sure I consider it racist. It's just very odd to hear someone using a term that has not been used in Ireland for almost 40 years. That said I don't know what age you are and I am sure there are sill some people in their 70s and 80s still using it.

    Dont be exaggerating mate, its still used.


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    #290
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    martingriff wrote: »
    News flash we are not in the 80's or 90's. A lot of terms used in those decades are not used anymore

    What do you believe led to that word no longer being used?


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    #291
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Dont be exaggerating mate, its still used.

    That's exactly what I said, it may still be using by OAPs.


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    #292
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    What do you believe led to that word no longer being used?

    Probably the vast majority of people of African descent insisting that they would rather be called black.


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    #293
    MarkY91
    Registered Users Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    I'm born in 1991 and I never thought coloured was racist. How? Why? To me it makes no sense.

    Surely calling someone black is worse than calling them coloured? What are we supposed to call them? African americans? Ffs


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    #294
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    tuxy wrote: »
    Probably the vast majority of people of African descent insisting that they would rather be called black.

    I genuinely thought it was acceptable to use it, maybe i didnt get the memo.

    I wont use it again it people are thinking it's a racist term, I'm not saying you think it is.


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    #295
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    I'm born in 1991 and I never thought coloured was racist. How? Why? To me it makes no sense.

    Surely calling someone black is worse than calling them coloured? What are we supposed to call them? African americans? Ffs

    I really think people in the 80s and 90s thought it was more of an acceptable/polite term to use to describe black people.


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    #296
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 11,019 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


      Boxing.Fan wrote: »
      What do you believe led to that word no longer being used?

      Same reason I suppose words like handicapped or things like black facing are not now used it is offensive


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      #297
      Riesen_Meal
      Registered Users Posts: 10,577 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


      Beechwoodspark wrote: »
      Grow up fieldog. U asked for links and you got them and you are still deflecting like mad

      The Sun newspaper? :D

      Yeah, they have never been known to lie about anything, ever....

      The Sun is a disgusting rag, and using them as "evidence" to back up your racist tirades, let's just say I'm a wee bit sceptical of their supposed "facts"... :)


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      #298
      Tasfasdf
      Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


      Fieldog wrote: »
      The Sun newspaper? :D

      Yeah, they have never been known to lie about anything, ever....

      The Sun is a disgusting rag, and using them as "evidence" to back up your racist tirades, let's just say I'm a wee bit sceptical of their supposed "facts"... :)

      What news do consider be to 100% fact? because there are none. Run along now before you get offended by something.


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      #299
      Boxing.Fan
      Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


      Fieldog wrote: »
      The Sun newspaper? :D

      Yeah, they have never been known to lie about anything, ever....

      The Sun is a disgusting rag, and using them as "evidence" to back up your racist tirades, let's just say I'm a wee bit sceptical of their supposed "facts"... :)

      Are you saying it didnt happen ? You complete moron.


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      #300
      Riesen_Meal
      Registered Users Posts: 10,577 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


      Tasfasdf wrote: »
      What news do consider be to 100% fact? because there are none. Run along now before you get offended by something.

      Generally, BBC, Irish Independent is a bit biased but factual, same can be said for RTE, have they reported it?

      I'm not offended, far from it...

      I'd just like a decent link, preferably not from a tabloid rag, is that too much to ask without being quick to say someone is getting offended if they don't share your views?


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      #301
      Tasfasdf
      Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


      Fieldog wrote: »
      Generally, BBC, Irish Independent is a bit biased but factual, same can be said for RTE, have they reported it?

      I'm not offended, far from it...

      I'd just like a decent link, preferably not from a tabloid rag, is that too much to ask without being quick to say someone is getting offended if they don't share your views?

      BBC LMAO


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