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MPs just put a gun to DUP's head

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  • 09-07-2019 5:32pm
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    MPs vote to legalise same-sex marriage and decriminalise abortion in Northern Ireland

    The House of Commons action will put the pressure on Northern Ireland parties to agree a new power-sharing deal by the autumn.

    MPs have voted to legalise same-sex marriage and decriminalise abortion in Northern Ireland, if a new devolved government isn't formed at Stormont by 21 October.

    The House of Commons supported both measures via amendments to legislation designed to keep Northern Ireland running in the absence of a devolved executive.

    The amendments were passed overwhelmingly after MPs were given free votes on Tuesday afternoon, with same-sex marriage and abortion traditionally treated as matters of conscience in the Commons.

    Legislation to allow same-sex marriage in England, Wales and Scotland was passed in 2014 but has never been introduced in Northern Ireland.

    Read More: https://news.sky.com/story/mps-vote-to-legalise-same-sex-marriage-in-northern-ireland-if-no-new-stormont-executive-11759880


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    L O fcuking L


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    And they still have to vote on abortion yet. DUP about to explode.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,155 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Gay Marriage; the one thing the DUP won't do for a Queen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    About time, post stone age boggers, not that anything will happen in the short term. I suppose this could get them back to work, on the other hand it could provoke an attempt to do the opposite and force the change through.

    Democracy or progress? :) Hmmm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Could sinn fein stall the whole thing till after oct to let it go through?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Abortion passed too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Marriage equality and abortion too. Good way to drag the bigots, kicking and screaming, either into the 21st Century or into Stormont.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Moved from AH > CA


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Good healthy contempt for the DUP from parliament.

    What incentive is there for Sinn Fein to get Stormont up and running by that date. They are for SSM and abortion.

    Done deal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Good healthy contempt for the DUP from parliament.

    .

    Much less than their own contempt for a portion of their citizens and their rights.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    So we don't want a coalition in that case.

    Great, but whoever proposed that is a troll, and I know trolls.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 23,641 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Sinn Fein have campaigned for same sex marriage in NI for a long time and when the health ministry came under Sinn Fein control they reversed the lifetime ban on MSM blood donors.

    Guess we will have to see how this plays out, if Stormont does start up before October 21st the DUP will have this blocked immediately with a petition of concern


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Not often I find myself in this position...
    But!
    Very well done to all in Westminster who voted to put this gun to the D.U.P's head!
    The right to a safe abortion, and the right to Same Sex Marriage enshrined in N.I law should Stormont not resume by October 21st!
    Of all the weeks to have the UK government give a real response to bigotry!
    They couldn't have chosen a better one!
    Now for Sinn Fein to keep Stormont down until then!


  • Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭SexBobomb


    Guess we will have to see how this plays put, if Stormont dors start up before October 31st the DUP will have this blocked immediately with a petition of concern

    Is it too simplistic to say SF will just refuse until after the deadline? (whatever those are worth anymore).
    Or would that just cause more trouble for powersharing down the line ?


  • Site Banned Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Balanadan


    dudara wrote: »
    Moved from AH > CA

    Not this bull**** again :mad:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 23,641 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    Is it too simplistic to say SF will just refuse until after the deadline? (whatever those are worth anymore).
    Or would that just cause more trouble for powersharing down the line ?

    There are a lot of points of disagreement between SF and DUP right now anyway, the Irish language act for one thing. I doubt there's much danger of the DUP suddenly making concessions to SF so they can block gay marriage.

    Arlene Foster is no fool, she knew same sex marriage would pass like if or not but now she can say the decision was taken out of her hands by Westminster


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    In other words the DUP have to decide whether they hate gay people or people who speak Irish more! Absolutely delighted for the bigots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Between this, Trumps tantrums on twitter today, Boris Johnsons shenanigans and the whole Brexit mess politics is very entertaining recently. It should not be but thats where we are at. So much drama its ridiculous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    This is great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Whats really funny about this is that all the middle class pissers and moaners up in de nort who were demanding that stormont gets going again will suddenly reverse their position :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,125 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Same-sex marriage and abortion to be legalised in North if no power-sharing by 21 October https://jrnl.ie/4717703

    This is very exciting!
    The DUP are going to blow a gasket...amazing!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,302 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Great news altogether


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,577 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Abortion passed too!

    Amazing how this issue has been such a massive deal for 50 years and suddenly gets resolved as an amendment tacked on to another bill in the House of Commons


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Duplicate threads merged

    dudara


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 23,641 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    That's how contentious legislation gets passed, tack it onto a popular bill as an ammendment. Oldest trick in the book


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    So Sinn Fein just sit on their hands for 4 months and viola, bill gets passed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,990 ✭✭✭circadian


    Well played Conor McGinn and Stella Creasy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    So Sinn Fein just sit on their hands for 4 months and viola, bill gets passed?

    Essentially yes

    Kinda pay back for DUP for fcuking up.their whole brexit dream....(also ridcolus for SF to be letting westminister legislate for.ireland tbh)



    But these changes were coming down the line irrgardless anyway in the north with demographics (ffs the DUP have an openly gay councillor elected,they are far from whats painted on the tin)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 23,641 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    I don't know, I haven't seen the exact wording of the bill. Does it legalise it from October 21st onwards or just give Britain the right to legislate for it from that date? If it's the latter then further legislation will be required and could be subject to delays etc

    Does anyone know the specifics of the bill?


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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I'd say Sammy Wilson's blood pressure is through the roof. Delighted for the bigoted fools in the DUP.


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