Dublin Bus - Flagging down

punisher5112

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

On your phone

But how do you get the taxi to your position without looking for it?

He doesn't know unless you make it aware you are the one that wants it....

odyssey06

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Right. Anybody who has ever worked with the public (and EVERYONE should) will be able to tell you: The public are scum. PEOPLE may be fine but The Public are ignorant entitled a**holes.

Ditto for those PEOPLE who are also Bus Drivers.

As for the OP. He wants every single Dublin Bus to stop at every single bus stop they pass. Irregardless of whether the bus is supposed to stop there or not and even if NOBODY wants to get on or off the bus. He wants this for the benefit of people who so rarely use the service that they have never seen anyone flag down a bus before (And yes, people DO flag down busses in other countries. To say they don't is simply incorrect. Anyone who says they don't is 100% wrong).

I think actually the OP wanted the bus to be free, to drop him exactly to his destination while breaking every red light and speed limit possible.
In fact, probably the drivers should have paid the OP to take the bus, to have that privilege.

Of course, the OP gave no indication of wanting that, anymore than the OP gave an indication of the strawman you have fabricated. They merely asked a question, why some people thinks that gives them the right to land free hits I don't know.

The_Brood

Of all the problems with Dublin Bus, this is the last of them.

My question is why are busses so incredibly irregular. 25, 30+ mins wait times for almost every line you want to catch. And this in a jam packed city that needs to work and get to places. It is astonishing no one protests about this to demand functioning public transport.

weldoninhio

Midnight_EG wrote: »

5:38am if you can do the simple addition that they provide under the timetable :rolleyes:

I can guarantee you that if you are there at 5:38am every morning for the next 4 days, you'd be lucky for it to arrive at that time ever.

TheIrishGrover

odyssey06 wrote: »

Of course, the OP gave no indication of wanting that, anymore than the OP gave an indication of the strawman you have fabricated. They merely asked a question, why some people thinks that gives them the right to land free hits I don't know.

Genuine apology. You are correct (And apologies to the OP too). I mixed up the posts. I meant to refer to "Always Tired"s post.

GarIT

The_Brood wrote: »

Of all the problems with Dublin Bus, this is the last of them.

My question is why are busses so incredibly irregular. 25, 30+ mins wait times for almost every line you want to catch. And this in a jam packed city that needs to work and get to places. It is astonishing no one protests about this to demand functioning public transport.

Two reasons. There are no more physical busses. Bus manufacturers are working at maximum capacity everywhere, wants more busses.

Bus drivers have contracts that prevent them from having to work flexible hours, if you want extra bus drivers in the morning you have to pay them to do nothing during the quiet period in the afternoon. And thay can't work more than around 7 or 8 hours in a day so you need a completely different set of drivers to do the evening rush hour who you also have to pay for a day's work.

Bus drivers are paid well enough that they should be asked to work 4 hours in the morning and/or 4 hours in the evening with a 6-8 hour break in the middle. It might not be great for those that are already there but it should be seen as something expected of new people taking driving a bus as a career.

Although going against my own previous point DB are struggling to hire drivers.

TheIrishGrover

GarIT wrote: »

Bus drivers are paid well enough that they should be asked to work 4 hours in the morning and/or 4 hours in the evening with a 6-8 hour break in the middle. It might not be great for those that are already there but it should be seen as something expected of new people taking driving a bus as a career.

That's a 16 hour day. I'm not a union boyo. I have serious problems with unions (Not this conversation). But say they start at 5AM

4 hours on:
5AM-9AM:
8 hours off:
9:AM-5PM
4 hours on:
5PM-9PM

In order to get 40 hours a week they would need to do this 5 days a week.

Does that sound good to ANYONE? How long do you think a normal person would do that job? 5AM-9PM five days a week?

Tell me how

Larbre34 wrote: »

Last year a group of 5 of us left from my house to go to a match in town on a Saturday, timed it to reach the bus stop a few minutes before the next one was due in order to be sure to catch this twice hourly weekend service.

We live about 5 stops from the terminus, so the timing is always pretty reliable, but as we rounded the corner onto the main road and the bus stop came into sight maybe 100m away, what do I see only the bus approaching to fly past the empty stop about 2 mins before it was even due to depart the terminus.

As it had to pass us, I stepped to the edge of the kerb and pointed at my wristwatch shouting my displeasure, whereupon the brake lights came on the bus and it juddered to a halt just beyond us.

The front doors opened and we bailed on as Dessie Driver says to me 'hang on there, what do you mean by that gesture, who do you think you're being ignorant to?'

Says I, 'if you hadn't left 6 or 7 minutes early at top speed so you could finish to catch the (insert club) game and hope no one would notice, I wouldn't have to be gesturing to anyone, am I right? So lets leave the phonecall to the garage to one side and get on with it shall we? '

Mr Red Handed proceeded without another word.

So, my takeaway is this, for many bus drivers, customer service is an irrelevance and they hate the job. This kills the goodwill for their whole profession and so my expectation is that the bare minimum is about right and so i dont engage with them any more than i would with the postman or binman who come while im at work or the invisible person posting my bills or tallying my toll bridge journeys.

Just reading this makes me want to never be a bus driver and have to deal with some members of the public. You sound like an absolute dose.

GarIT

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

That's a 16 hour day. I'm not a union boyo. I have serious problems with unions (Not this conversation). But say they start at 5AM

4 hours on:
5AM-9AM:
8 hours off:
9:AM-5PM
4 hours on:
5PM-9PM

In order to get 40 hours a week they would need to do this 5 days a week.

Does that sound good to ANYONE? How long do you think a normal person would do that job? 5AM-9PM five days a week?

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if I didn't have to commute. I might even prefer it. With a long commute it's a big hassle.

You don't even have to go as far as I initially said to make a huge difference, 10 hour shifts, with a 2 hour break 4 days a week would result in over 50% more drivers being available during rush hour.