BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

Rows Grower

con747 wrote: »

Says one owner, last time it was bought was 3/7/08

He probably means he bought it with his own money and didn't need the wife to chip in.

almostover

newboard wrote: »

This isn't a bangernomics but spotted it while looking for a bangernomics. I was thinking of spending around 2k (ie bangernomics) but for an extra 1k to get a much younger car, much nicer looking than average, and good tax, does it make sense?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/11-ford-mondeo-nctd-and-tax/25199614

Woefully underpowered engine for a car that size. Those are a PSA derived unit and not the most reliable. If you want a diesel Mondeo, do yourself a favour and get a 2 litre.

newboard

almostover wrote: »

Woefully underpowered engine for a car that size. Those are a PSA derived unit and not the most reliable. If you want a diesel Mondeo, do yourself a favour and get a 2 litre.

Thank you. I'm not looking for any make/model in particular, just want something that looks smart and will be reliable and somewhat economical to run.

colm_mcm

con747 wrote: »

Says one owner, last time it was bought was 3/7/08

Could be an import?

alias no.9

almostover wrote: »

Woefully underpowered engine for a car that size. Those are a PSA derived unit and not the most reliable. If you want a diesel Mondeo, do yourself a favour and get a 2 litre.

Pretty sure the 2.0 and 2.2 are PSA derived too. The 2.0 is definitely a step up in reliability but the 2.2 is a bit problematic too.

alias no.9

almostover wrote: »

Woefully underpowered engine for a car that size. Those are a PSA derived unit and not the most reliable. If you want a diesel Mondeo, do yourself a favour and get a 2 litre.

Pretty sure the 2.0 and 2.2 are PSA derived too. The 2.0 is definitely a step up in reliability but the 2.2 is a bit problematic too.

almostover

newboard wrote: »

Thank you. I'm not looking for any make/model in particular, just want something that looks smart and will be reliable and somewhat economical to run.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-honda-accord-2-2cdtisportnct-11-20clean/25173080

This might suit you so......

TigerTim

almostover wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-honda-accord-2-2cdtisportnct-11-20clean/25173080

This might suit you so......

That does look nice.

T.

Mad_Mike

As much as I detest the photos on this advert, it would be worth a look if anyone is looking for an estate
2006 Volvo V50 2 litre diesel
Taxed until the end of the year and NCT until February 2021
Folder of receipts including timing belt and a decent set of tyres also
Price is a bit strong though. Would be a nice buy at maybe 1250
Asking €1500

newboard

almostover wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-honda-accord-2-2cdtisportnct-11-20clean/25173080

This might suit you so......

Thank you. 2.2L, would that not be pricey to run?

Spotted this one, any thoughts?



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-insignia-2-0cdi-130ps-eco-great-condition/25151900

RandomUsername

newboard wrote:

Spotted this one, any thoughts?

Yea, run ðŸ˜

Babyladyzoda

Mad_Mike wrote: »

Realistically, you're looking at around 2005 and earlier as diesel cars that are "relatively straightforward", but the best thing to do is post here if you have any cars that you are unsure of and there is plenty of people here willing to help and advise.

Would this model be likely to have DPF or flywheel issues?

Rows Grower

RandomUsername wrote: »

Yea, run ðŸ˜

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYWTJ8iZr7ro&psig=AOvVaw1IQN88htAzxYhCueX5Byac&ust=1593424021658000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCOiRzpidpOoCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAN

punisher5112

newboard wrote: »

Thank you. 2.2L, would that not be pricey to run?

Spotted this one, any thoughts?



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-insignia-2-0cdi-130ps-eco-great-condition/25151900

Absolute dirt

Rows Grower

Babyladyzoda wrote: »

Would this model be likely to have DPF or flywheel issues?

It's impossible to say it won't develop problems in the future but Kia are a reliable make in general and it looks like a well looked after car at a reasonable price.

Nekarsulm

newboard wrote: »

Thank you. 2.2L, would that not be pricey to run?

Spotted this one, any thoughts?



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-insignia-2-0cdi-130ps-eco-great-condition/25151900

It's been well minded, but 212,000 miles on one of those.....
€2000 overpriced.

Sam Russell

newboard wrote: »

Thank you. 2.2L, would that not be pricey to run?

Spotted this one, any thoughts?



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-insignia-2-0cdi-130ps-eco-great-condition/25151900

Is there a €2,000 limit on the thread or has it been extended?

newboard

Sam Russell wrote: »

Is there a €2,000 limit on the thread or has it been extended?

I've created a new thread instead, thanks

Mad_Mike

Babyladyzoda wrote: »

Would this model be likely to have DPF or flywheel issues?

As far as I'm aware, this model has no DPF or DMF, but maybe @colm_mcm or somebody can confirm

almostover

newboard wrote: »

Thank you. 2.2L, would that not be pricey to run?

Spotted this one, any thoughts?



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-insignia-2-0cdi-130ps-eco-great-condition/25151900

Those accords will do 45mpg handy enough and most importantly be reliable. Insignia have a terrible reputation for reliability. That accord I posted, if genuine, would be a lovely car. Insignia are cheap for a reason. Spending €10 a week extra on fuel is nothing for reliability.

bazz26

Insignias of that vintage are just dirt.

colm_mcm

Mad_Mike wrote: »

As far as I'm aware, this model has no DPF or DMF, but maybe @colm_mcm or somebody can confirm

You’re correct.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/09-skoda-octavia-estate-1-9-l-diesel/25211135



09 Octavia diesel estate, NCT til February 2021, 1 previous owner, €1250

This looks very nice for the money, tidy looking example

newboard

almostover wrote: »

Those accords will do 45mpg handy enough and most importantly be reliable. Insignia have a terrible reputation for reliability. That accord I posted, if genuine, would be a lovely car. Insignia are cheap for a reason. Spending €10 a week extra on fuel is nothing for reliability.

Thanks. First car was a civic and I've always liked Hondas, it might be a little too sporty looking for me though at this stage, but 45pmg on diesel does sound good.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-fabia-1-9-tdi-vrs/25195578



Fabia VRS with 12 months NCT and tax til August, same owner for the last 11 years, €1700

Unfortunate mark on the door but that wouldn't take away from it too much for me. What are these like?

kalkat2002

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-fabia-1-9-tdi-vrs/25195578



Fabia VRS with 12 months NCT and tax til August, same owner for the last 11 years, €1700

Unfortunate mark on the door but that wouldn't take away from it too much for me. What are these like?

Great find


Pity the colour...red or blue are nicer

That engine with few mods and remapped is easily waked up if desired

Original 130 hp and huge torque plus amazing mpg helping the sixt gear on motorway

In spain one friend of mine had one and he upgraded brake system with an audi tt donor

Service is a must and also using specific pump engine oil

Dual mass here? Could be expensive

The white on the seats are a good indicator of what life they had

Mad_Mike

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/09-skoda-octavia-estate-1-9-l-diesel/25211135


09 Octavia diesel estate, NCT til February 2021, 1 previous owner, €1250

This looks very nice for the money, tidy looking example

Nice find. That's a lot of car for €1250

Duke O Smiley

Mad_Mike wrote: »

Nice find. That's a lot of car for €1250

Just checked, and it has had the same owner since 2012 too. Makes it more appealing IMO!

Babyladyzoda

colm_mcm wrote: »

You’re correct.

Sound. Going to see it tomorrow.

Mervyn Skidmore

Are insignias really as bad as people say? 2 of my siblings have been driving them for years with no issue. Loads of them on the roads too.

Sam Russell

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Are insignias really as bad as people say? 2 of my siblings have been driving them for years with no issue. Loads of them on the roads too.

My next door neighbour had one that had to be rescued frequently. It was not that old either.

I would not touch an Opel, and even less a Vauxhall.

selectamatic

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/09-skoda-octavia-estate-1-9-l-diesel/25211135


09 Octavia diesel estate, NCT til February 2021, 1 previous owner, €1250

This looks very nice for the money, tidy looking example

That same owner has being trying to sell that on and off for the last year he's owned it since 2012. He had it up around 3 grand for ages.

Finally it's priced right and it does look to be a clean well minded example. Being a combi makes it stand out a bit too.

Great find.

Edit: just seen ye checked the last ownership change.

CoBo55

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Are insignias really as bad as people say? 2 of my siblings have been driving them for years with no issue. Loads of them on the roads in the scrapyards too.

Fixed it:pac:

rn

In hindsight I'm not so sure the accord diesel at bangernomics money is "bullet proof" . Anecdotally at least I know a lot of the pre 2008 models, none with massive mileage, suffered failure of dual mass flywheel and they were scrapped due to perceived uneconomical repair costs. And I notice there are not many left on the road. Old petrol accords do seem to go forever alright.

pah

rn wrote: »

In hindsight I'm not so sure the accord diesel at bangernomics money is "bullet proof" . Anecdotally at least I know a lot of the pre 2008 models, none with massive mileage, suffered failure of dual mass flywheel and they were scrapped due to perceived uneconomical repair costs. And I notice there are not many left on the road. Old petrol accords do seem to go forever alright.

Indeed, mother in law has a 04 from almost new, ex demo. A really great car.

hoodie6029

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Are insignias really as bad as people say? 2 of my siblings have been driving them for years with no issue. Loads of them on the roads too.

No personal experience of them. Car Mechanics magazine had one as a project car in 2018 and it broke their heart. Everything broke on it, twice.

The issues are still up on the RB Digital app if you want to download them

noelf

2003 Renault Clio nct 12/20 €1250 38000 miles..


C.A.G cars

CoBo55

hoodie6029 wrote: »

No personal experience of them. Car Mechanics magazine had one as a project car in 2018 and it broke their heart. Everything broke on it, twice.

The issues are still up on the RB Digital app if you want to download them

Unreal wasn't it? The costs were shocking when the project finally finished.

CoBo55

rn wrote: »

In hindsight I'm not so sure the accord diesel at bangernomics money is "bullet proof" . Anecdotally at least I know a lot of the pre 2008 models, none with massive mileage, suffered failure of dual mass flywheel and they were scrapped due to perceived uneconomical repair costs. And I notice there are not many left on the road. Old petrol accords do seem to go forever alright.

Cracked exhaust manifolds filling the cabin with fumes was another favourite..

dzsfah2xoynme9

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1-8-honda-civic/25170989



Rough and ready 1.8 Type S Civic, tax til August, test til November, 1 previous owner, €895

Doesn't look too bad for the money really!

So it was washed and bumped up to 1295...

Notch000

Jana Delicious Sorbet wrote: »

So it was washed and bumped up to 1295...

the duck tap is a bit of a buzz killer, a bit of ceramic coating on the greyed trim and would look 10 times better

hoodie6029

CoBo55 wrote: »

Unreal wasn't it? The costs were shocking when the project finally finished.

Absolutely. The editor even said people were joking him about it at a car show. Ended up being something like £13k for a 10 year old Insignia. You wouldn't pay that for a 2 year old one!

bear1

The tyre looks balder than Mr. evil

26000 Elephants

Notch000 wrote: »

the duck tap is a bit of a buzz killer, a bit of ceramic coating on the greyed trim and would look 10 times better

Holy jeebus, the ignorance of that repair is astounding. Have they not heard of epoxy or polyester resin to fix the clips in place?

There are proprietary grey paints for those plastic bits - I'd doubt a clear coating would do anything more than make it shiny as well as faded.

at9qu5vp0wcix7

Disgraceful to have that in a showroom, just fix the fecking thing. Do people have no pride anymore?

newboard

rn wrote: »

In hindsight I'm not so sure the accord diesel at bangernomics money is "bullet proof" . Anecdotally at least I know a lot of the pre 2008 models, none with massive mileage, suffered failure of dual mass flywheel and they were scrapped due to perceived uneconomical repair costs. And I notice there are not many left on the road.

Would this apply to 2008+ diesel models as well?

Uncle Pierre

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Are insignias really as bad as people say? 2 of my siblings have been driving them for years with no issue. Loads of them on the roads too.

My wife had an 09 Insignia for about four years. She bought it when it was about three years old, because she "liked the look of it" more than the look of other cars that I thought would be a better buy.

It probably gave more trouble during those four years than every other car I've ever had myself, plus every car she's had during the time I've known her, all put together. And that's 25 years of me owning a car and nearly 15 years of knowing her, so almost 40 years worth of car ownership altogether.

Can't remember what the last straw was, because there were so many breakdowns, but she eventually traded it for a Hyundai ix35. No issues with that yet, and she's had it almost four years now too. Big change from the Insignia!

So, long story short - AVOID INSIGNIAS!

FGR

noelf wrote: »

2003 Renault Clio nct 12/20 €1250 38000 miles..


C.A.G cars

In good condition - but I can't figure out what Renault were at when they didn't bother switching the wipers to RHD!

Green farmer

FGR wrote: »

In good condition - but I can't figure out what Renault were at when they didn't bother switching the wipers to RHD!

I've a bmw that has the wipers the same. Left the factory that way

CrankyHaus

newboard wrote: »

Would this apply to 2008+ diesel models as well?

It shouldn't. But IME they hold their value so well you can usually get something else in much better nick for the same money. Any time I looked at one it was either too expensive or a shed.