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BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,198 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Yeah, we're hitting a new low mileage

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭jfh


    rizzodun wrote: »
    Test drove one a few weeks ago.
    Same sensation.
    I found sense and bought another estate.

    I'm in a similar position, heart wants a rav 4 but head says an estate. I hear good things about the rav but haven't driven one


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭rizzodun


    jfh wrote: »
    I'm in a similar position, heart wants a rav 4 but head says an estate. I hear good things about the rav but haven't driven one


    While I have no idea what you need it for, I'll guess and say buy an estate, more comfortable ride, better driving position, more choice, way more luggage space.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    bazz26 wrote: »
    So how many genuine 15 year old cars out there would have less than 100k miles on them?

    You also seem to be assuming that mileage is a direct measure of usage and maintenance. It's not that simple. A car driven up and down the motorway every day may still be on some of it's original suspension bits or clutch over a granny grinding gears driving two miles down a pothole ridden road to the shops once a week. The granny may also have only got the oil changed once or twice in that life time too.

    People put too much emphases on mileage and I can see why clocking is big business.

    Obviously.

    But 'very low' mileage is not 162,400 km, irrespective of the cars age. Perhaps 'below average' but not 'very low'.

    Age is what it says in the log book. Mileage is what it says on the odometer. Condition is what you judge by looking and driving.

    Granny gear grinding is easy to tell, but 'very low' mileage, 'very rare', 'highly sought after' and 'future classic', are all meaningless salesmen puffs that have no value and bring nothing for the possible purchaser.

    Those terms are all lies that try to fool the foolish.

    Anyway, this is off topic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/fiat-panda-2010-1-1-petrol-new-nct-4-21-tax-200e/24452965

    MzQxMTAwM2Y5ZDQzODRlMWUyNzgzYWM4OTgxNjY5MWUPVHkd2BJ40L3k8hhDbgJ3aHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDQwMDMzNTJ8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    Decent looking 2010 Panda with a years test and claimed low miles, €1950

    Another decent upper budget bangernomics choice IMO is the Panda. A 2010/11 example can be had within budget handily enough, they make decent first cars or cheap runabouts.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-audi-a4-1-8-turbo-pet-s-line-new-nct-05-21/24423537

    NDI2ZjhkZWRmNmE4Yjk4ODU1MmZhMWEwNWZlMDU3NjfZ5RGC7TDHDKCNIRis1l7NaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDM3MjAwMTR8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    1.8t A4 S-Line with NCT til May 2021, €1250

    It was a 1 owner car until last week. Something about those plates, as awful as they are, gives me a good feeling about this one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-3-2007-aero-estate-2-0-turbo-nct-01-21/24460858

    MDU2NjkwMDUxMWEyNjQxOTQ2MTFmNzlhYTZhYTI4NTHnVobfcouFL8vSQECIURMdaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDQwNjI2NTl8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    2.0t 9-3 Aera estate, NCT til January 2021, €1950

    These aren't usually my thing, but this looks class. Again, was 1 owner until last week


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭jmreire


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-audi-a4-1-8-turbo-pet-s-line-new-nct-05-21/24423537

    NDI2ZjhkZWRmNmE4Yjk4ODU1MmZhMWEwNWZlMDU3NjfZ5RGC7TDHDKCNIRis1l7NaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDM3MjAwMTR8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    1.8t A4 S-Line with NCT til May 2021, €1250

    It was a 1 owner car until last week. Something about those plates, as awful as they are, gives me a good feeling about this one.

    That's one fine example, for sure. Well worth the money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-3-2007-aero-estate-2-0-turbo-nct-01-21/24460858

    MDU2NjkwMDUxMWEyNjQxOTQ2MTFmNzlhYTZhYTI4NTHnVobfcouFL8vSQECIURMdaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDQwNjI2NTl8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    2.0t 9-3 Aera estate, NCT til January 2021, €1950

    These aren't usually my thing, but this looks class. Again, was 1 owner until last week

    I would absolutely love that, but my only SAAB purchase will be the black Aero X that pops up every now and again in Galway :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    If this virus gets its way I can see the car industry getting a hammering like most other and car prices falling.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭job seeker


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/fiat-panda-2010-1-1-petrol-new-nct-4-21-tax-200e/24452965

    MzQxMTAwM2Y5ZDQzODRlMWUyNzgzYWM4OTgxNjY5MWUPVHkd2BJ40L3k8hhDbgJ3aHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDQwMDMzNTJ8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    Decent looking 2010 Panda with a years test and claimed low miles, €1950

    Another decent upper budget bangernomics choice IMO is the Panda. A 2010/11 example can be had within budget handily enough, they make decent first cars or cheap runabouts.

    I'd say they are handy to run! Would they take much abuse though?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭jmreire


    If this virus gets its way I can see the car industry getting a hammering like most other and car prices falling.

    Wont be the only industry getting a hammering....economically, I can see the ass falling out of the Country..worse than the Big Bust 10 years ago..because this time, it will be totally global.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-406-2-0-hdi-s-model-90-bhp-estate/24394234

    ZGI4YzAzMDRjMTY2NDcxNjNhOWI0NzgzNTQyM2Q4OWHoLoEha0b9SuSBQaQPTljaaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDM0ODk3MDV8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    Decent looking 406 diesel estate with NCT til the very end of September for €550

    Looks nice and clean for the money IMO


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet/24471842

    OWY0MGY5NGEyZjFkMGEzZDhhMzdhOTYzZDk3OWVmYWVxVnjw0MGJ-iATU8uCNwwZaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDQxNzQ2MjB8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    99 Starlet from a nice gravel driveway in south Dublin, NCT til January 2021, €600

    Same owner since 2005. Needs to be 400, but still - I would! I'd bet not many other small cars from this era would look so fresh inside after 170k miles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭1874


    Why does someone say 'very low mileage' when it has 162,400 km. How is that very low mileage? It is an average of over 10 thousand km per year. To me a low mileage car has less than 50,000 km after ten years.
    I think most cars tend to 50% or more of the miles they ever do in the first 5 years of their life. Now I could be wrong.


    Looks alright, mileage seems low for the year, whatever of that, I wouldnt describe it as a long NCT/late 2020 though. I know someone who had one and said he couldnt get anyone to make an offer, Im not much of a fan of BMWs, but Im not sure why he couldnt get an offer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭I Was VB


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet/24471842

    OWY0MGY5NGEyZjFkMGEzZDhhMzdhOTYzZDk3OWVmYWVxVnjw0MGJ-iATU8uCNwwZaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDQxNzQ2MjB8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    99 Starlet from a nice gravel driveway in south Dublin, NCT til January 2021, €600

    Same owner since 2005. Needs to be 400, but still - I would! I'd bet not many other small cars from this era would look so fresh inside after 170k miles.


    I always look at the surroundings of a car for sale too to get some idea of the seller and how the car might of been looked after.


  • Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    http://www.adverts.ie/20021679
    Any thoughts on this?
    It seems very cheap n


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,447 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    http://www.adverts.ie/20021679
    Any thoughts on this?
    It seems very cheap n

    €750 tax isn’t far off the cc rate of €710 on an older one. Eyes wide open.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    Not a one owner car as claimed either

    (Although with a username like “we buy all types of vehicles” is it much of a surprise?)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    http://www.adverts.ie/20021679
    Any thoughts on this?
    It seems very cheap n

    Seller is "webuyanycar" type - literally!

    i.e. it's not a private sale, just a trader shifting on something cheap with no idea of its history. That's why its priced that way.

    It could be fine, it depends on what you are looki g for. They are a fine car generally, and for the money it's worth a look if its local to you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Seller is "webuyanycar" type - literally!

    i.e. it's not a private sale, just a trader shifting on something cheap with no idea of its history. That's why its priced that way.

    It could be fine, it depends on what you are looki g for. They are a fine car generally, and for the money it's worth a look if its local to you.

    It's advertised as with a full service history, looks like a bargain.

    I'd say there's going to be a lot of the bigger cars with a bit of tax left going for peanuts soon.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    It's advertised as with a full service history, looks like a bargain.

    I'd say there's going to be a lot of the bigger cars with a bit of tax left going for peanuts soon.

    I will believe that full service history when I see it ;)

    As previous poster said eyes wide open.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    wonski wrote: »
    I will believe that full service history when I see it ;)

    As previous poster said eyes wide open.

    Sound.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭KB22


    http://www.adverts.ie/20021679
    Any thoughts on this?
    It seems very cheap n

    I have a 9-5 with the same engine, great for motorway driving. Urban use you'd need an Arab in the boot ! They are a great car to drive ,engine parts are GM/Opel so much cheaper than BMW or MERC.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭1874


    http://www.adverts.ie/20021679
    Any thoughts on this?
    It seems very cheap n


    Very near to NCT, bit too near for my liking, someone in the family had one, nice car, it needed some work they didnt want to pay out for, some problem/part on the steering rack hydraulics leaking, couldnt get an offer on it, was a low mileage diesel, nippy imo compared to my octavia, dont know what the petrol is like, nice inside, but felt cramped, again in comparison to the octavia.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    1874 wrote: »
    Very near to NCT, bit too near for my liking, someone in the family had one, nice car, it needed some work they didnt want to pay out for, some problem/part on the steering rack hydraulics leaking, couldnt get an offer on it, was a low mileage diesel, nippy imo compared to my octavia, dont know what the petrol is like, nice inside, but felt cramped, again in comparison to the octavia.

    It has 8 months NCT. how long do you expect in a bangernomics car?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭1874


    It has 8 months NCT. how long do you expect in a bangernomics car?


    My mistake, I must scanned the end of tax in the advert, I read May on NCT, yep 8 months is grand, a year or more is always good :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Forde3654Eire


    Any opinions on a 2005 Toyota Avensis with the 1.8L petrol engine? I'm looking at one with just over 300,000km on it for 550e... assuming the car's been taken care of, would it make a good and sensible purchase for cheap and reliable motoring?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Any opinions on a 2005 Toyota Avensis with the 1.8L petrol engine? I'm looking at one with just over 300,000km on it for 550e... assuming the car's been taken care of, would it make a good and sensible purchase for cheap and reliable motoring?

    Cheap and reliable on a 15 year old car....

    It won't be cheap but Toyota were obviously reliable enough.

    If you want cheap you would want to looking at the Yaris or similar.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,447 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    You might have oil burning issues but to be honest, for €550 who cares? Just bin it and go again if it won’t pass NCT

    Well equipped, comfy enough, very good standard safety for an 05.


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