BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

Toyotafanboi

Id love to tidy up that Type S, i'd say it'd come up a treat. Some car for the money.

pah

Mad_Mike wrote: »

One of the worst adverts I've seen on Donedeal when it comes to description!
Leaving that to one side, this has NCT until January next year and I'm guessing there aren't even a handful of 156 Ti's left running in the country at this stage
If this was running any way right, it's got to be worth the asking price all day long
Listed at €650

Nearly bought one of these many years ago in this colour and trim but the seller changed his mind. I imagine most examples these days are pretty rough. The ad inspires no confidence

kalkat2002

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Id love to tidy up that Type S, i'd say it'd come up a treat. Some car for the money.

Pity is a bit far from dublin...
New fron tyres and arch,maybe discs and pads and for 1k you have a top car

colm_mcm

However bad the black paint looks in the pics, it’ll be way worse in the flesh. It’s a hoor of a flat black.

kalkat2002

colm_mcm wrote: »

However bad the black paint looks in the pics, it’ll be way worse in the flesh. It’s a hoor of a flat black.

Yeah also the interior wear & tear should be major...

colm_mcm

Thankfully the interiors wear very well.

Babyladyzoda

colm_mcm wrote: »

Chape tax Hyundai i30 diesel.

Once it's not making noises going into reverse, this is probably the least risky cheap diesel you can get, No DMF, no DPF, and well built.
This one is reasonably well specced too

1 owner in Ireland (it's a UK import), and sold by a dealer, so some semblance of a warranty probably applies.

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is a DPF or an DMF?

Why should they be avoided?

Midnight_EG

Babyladyzoda wrote: »

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is a DPF or an DMF?

Why should they be avoided?

Diesel particulate filter (prone to clogging)
Dual mass flywheel (prone to failing)

Both circa €1000 to fix usually

Babyladyzoda

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Diesel particulate filter (prone to clogging)
Dual mass flywheel (prone to failing)

Both circa €1000 to fix usually

Big oof. Fair enough. So the older i30s don't have it. Ok cool

kalkat2002

2006 honda accord 2l petrol

1250 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/20803185

For Forks Sake

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Id love to tidy up that Type S, i'd say it'd come up a treat. Some car for the money.

Is that tape all over the front passenger-side wheel arch? Wonder what that's hiding...
The plastic trims on Hondas always fade really badly, something like this would sort it back to looking new. Then onto the interior....

punisher5112

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Is that tape all over the front passenger-side wheel arch?

It is indeed, it's holding the grey plastic strip on.

Mad_Mike

Babyladyzoda wrote: »

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is a DPF or an DMF?

Why should they be avoided?

No such thing as sounding stupid
Asking questions is how we learn

A DMF in a car is a dual mass flywheel. This is basically linked with the clutch and a lot of modern diesels use them to eliminate/suppress vibration, but the downside is they can be quite costly to repair if they give problems.

A DPF is a diesel particulate filter. Again, after a certain year, MOST diesel cars are fitted with them to reduce emissions even further than previous engines. The main issue with them is if the car is not getting long drives, they can become choked up as the DPF is not reaching temperatures high enough and long enough to burn off the carbon deposits it traps inside

[EDIT]Doh!! Maybe next time I should look and see that there is another page of replies already answering the question before I reply!!!!! :eek:[?EDIT]

colm_mcm

punisher5112 wrote: »

It is indeed, it's holding the grey plastic strip on.

The clips on the arch trims break and then the arch trim hangs off. Even catching a mudflap on something is enough to tear the trim off.

This particular part is quite expensive from Honda and not readily available used because it’s different to the non Type S trim.

It’s quite easy to keep the plastic looking good. The likes of Polytrol is great for it.

Babyladyzoda

Mad_Mike wrote: »

No such thing as sounding stupid
Asking questions is how we learn

A DMF in a car is a dual mass flywheel. This is basically linked with the clutch and a lot of modern diesels use them to eliminate/suppress vibration, but the downside is they can be quite costly to repair if they give problems.

A DPF is a diesel particulate filter. Again, after a certain year, MOST diesel cars are fitted with them to reduce emissions even further than previous engines. The main issue with them is if the car is not getting long drives, they can become choked up as the DPF is not reaching temperatures high enough and long enough to burn off the carbon deposits it traps inside

[EDIT]Doh!! Maybe next time I should look and see that there is another page of replies already answering the question before I reply!!!!! :eek:[?EDIT]

I appreciated the explanation. Are there any other older diesel that avoid this issue or is it all diesels older than 2009/2008

Mad_Mike

It varies from one manufacturer to another, the Euro emissions standards determined when DPF's were introduced etc, although some manufacturers had introduced them before they were actually a requirement. Dual mass flywheel on the other hand is not so much a requirement, but a "refinement" that different brands introduced in various models.

Realistically, you're looking at around 2005 and earlier as diesel cars that are "relatively straightforward", but the best thing to do is post here if you have any cars that you are unsure of and there is plenty of people here willing to help and advise.

dobman88

Another NCT pass just now for my 03 bangernomics Corolla. Hup.

kalkat2002

2004 scenic diesel very low mileage

650 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/20809830

con747

kalkat2002 wrote: »

2004 scenic diesel very low mileage

650 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/20809830

Says one owner, last time it was bought was 3/7/08

newboard

This isn't a bangernomics but spotted it while looking for a bangernomics. I was thinking of spending around 2k (ie bangernomics) but for an extra 1k to get a much younger car, much nicer looking than average, and good tax, does it make sense?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/11-ford-mondeo-nctd-and-tax/25199614

Rows Grower

con747 wrote: »

Says one owner, last time it was bought was 3/7/08

He probably means he bought it with his own money and didn't need the wife to chip in.

almostover

newboard wrote: »

This isn't a bangernomics but spotted it while looking for a bangernomics. I was thinking of spending around 2k (ie bangernomics) but for an extra 1k to get a much younger car, much nicer looking than average, and good tax, does it make sense?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/11-ford-mondeo-nctd-and-tax/25199614

Woefully underpowered engine for a car that size. Those are a PSA derived unit and not the most reliable. If you want a diesel Mondeo, do yourself a favour and get a 2 litre.

newboard

almostover wrote: »

Woefully underpowered engine for a car that size. Those are a PSA derived unit and not the most reliable. If you want a diesel Mondeo, do yourself a favour and get a 2 litre.

Thank you. I'm not looking for any make/model in particular, just want something that looks smart and will be reliable and somewhat economical to run.

colm_mcm

con747 wrote: »

Says one owner, last time it was bought was 3/7/08

Could be an import?

alias no.9

almostover wrote: »

Woefully underpowered engine for a car that size. Those are a PSA derived unit and not the most reliable. If you want a diesel Mondeo, do yourself a favour and get a 2 litre.

Pretty sure the 2.0 and 2.2 are PSA derived too. The 2.0 is definitely a step up in reliability but the 2.2 is a bit problematic too.

alias no.9

almostover wrote: »

Woefully underpowered engine for a car that size. Those are a PSA derived unit and not the most reliable. If you want a diesel Mondeo, do yourself a favour and get a 2 litre.

Pretty sure the 2.0 and 2.2 are PSA derived too. The 2.0 is definitely a step up in reliability but the 2.2 is a bit problematic too.

almostover

newboard wrote: »

Thank you. I'm not looking for any make/model in particular, just want something that looks smart and will be reliable and somewhat economical to run.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-honda-accord-2-2cdtisportnct-11-20clean/25173080

This might suit you so......

TigerTim

almostover wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-honda-accord-2-2cdtisportnct-11-20clean/25173080

This might suit you so......

That does look nice.

T.

Mad_Mike

As much as I detest the photos on this advert, it would be worth a look if anyone is looking for an estate
2006 Volvo V50 2 litre diesel
Taxed until the end of the year and NCT until February 2021
Folder of receipts including timing belt and a decent set of tyres also
Price is a bit strong though. Would be a nice buy at maybe 1250
Asking €1500

newboard

almostover wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-honda-accord-2-2cdtisportnct-11-20clean/25173080

This might suit you so......

Thank you. 2.2L, would that not be pricey to run?

Spotted this one, any thoughts?



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-insignia-2-0cdi-130ps-eco-great-condition/25151900