Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

Stevieluvsye

Captain Red Beard wrote: »

Anyone want to sum up whats happening for those of us out of the loop?

Go through the thread, it's all there

hankless

Captain Red Beard wrote: »

Anyone want to sum up whats happening for those of us out of the loop?

Someone was killed.

walshb

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to work either. If it did the USA would be the safest country on earth.

Sick to the back teeth of this comparison with the U.S. and its 320 million people.

And the U.S. don’t bang everyone up for life either...

Ireland: 4.5 million. Simple: start putting criminals away for long stretches...

Not saying it cures everything, but it sends out a damn strong message that if you behave like scum, we will not tolerate it in our society..

Right now that is not at all the message. The message is the complete opposite.

Shambolicly lenient sentences for serious crimes... next to no actual deterrent.

ChikiChiki

I would actually support Government Black Ops against some of these cretins to nip things a little or as the poster above mentioned proper sentencing. It is way out of control and the justice system plays a huge part in that.

IvoryTower

Captain Red Beard wrote: »

Anyone want to sum up whats happening for those of us out of the loop?

The main banter is

Drug runner/firebombing 17 year old chopped up. Hes linked to the Maguire traveller gang in Drogheda. Likely done by rival Drogheda gang. Murder score now 2-1 to travellers.

2thousand14

Anyone see the twitter handle @videossick posting strange stuff regarding this whole situation

Executioner511

A lot of these slayed Gangsters are issued with GIM by the Gardai ,where do the cops get that information from and how do they know it's credible? Most of those who were whacked in the last few years had gotten one ,point being anyone who is issued with one of these should be jailed immediately as they are most likely a serious criminal and shouldn't be on the streets and a very intense investigation should be carried out into their activities and who they are working for, the threat to innocent people's lives is more likely now than ever as we've seen just the other night in Drogheda with the Taxi driver getting shot.

Madouveh

Captain Red Beard wrote: »

Anyone want to sum up whats happening for those of us out of the loop?

Well known criminal operating out of East Darndale know as 'The Boffer' has been selling dodgy sniff to the notorious Westies gang from the Libertibertdeies in Dublin 8. The Westies had traditionally been aligned to the 'The Lobster' from Donabate. But he got feltched out of it by the Unreal IRA back in 2014 so now they need new allies to keep running the streets near their compound on St. Pearse Bruagha's avenue in Crumblin. So they began getting their yellow bentines and quack candles from the kinahans for the past few years.

The Kinahans were trying to take over the sniff racket in East Darndale, but The Boffer had other ideas. He decided to make an example of the corner boys in his ends who were trying to barter the Kinahan's sniff to the local junk balls who were getting whacked off their bonce on the stuff. So he started to schnock all the members of the Ali Baba gang who were operating in his theatre of depravity.

The Monk is aware of the situation is is keeping close tabs on developments from his porn dungeon in Transylvania.

But be sure of this - it's all about to kick off.

JohnnyFlash

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I would actually support Government Black Ops against some of these cretins to nip things a little or as the poster above mentioned proper sentencing. It is way out of control and the justice system plays a huge part in that.

You’d be in favour of State sanctioned killings?

walshb

There is no real fix apart form the physical removal of these people from society...

What other hope have we? And by removal, I mean next to permanent....

This sentencing for a month here and there, a year here and there, a few years here and there.....it's clear as day that it is not working...

I know you cannot jail everyone for a long time for crimes;

But surely we can list out crimes that are hugely dangerous to our peace and well-being and harmony? And apply really stiff sentencing as a mandatory for them...

Anyone who says that this won't make a difference is bonkers. It has to make a difference, and more importantly, it sends a strong message to those considering a life of crime.....take your chance, and if caught, we will hammer you...

P.Walnuts

People realise we live in one of the safest countries in the world right?

The hyperbole is gas every time ( about once every month) there's a gangland murder

walshb

P.Walnuts wrote: »

People realise we live in one of the safest countries in the world right?

The hyperbole is gas every time ( about once every month) there's a gangland murder

That still doesn't explain how serious career criminals are out on the streets committing serious crimes.....

How people and children are being murdered, mutilated, and displayed for communities to see....

Saying we are a safe country is a separate discussion... I am well aware of the statistics you are likely using to make this point. I just don't really care for them. I am not comparing us to any other country.

RollieFingers

2thousand14 wrote: »

Anyone see the twitter handle @videossick posting strange stuff regarding this whole situation

Get your Coolock feud t-shirt!

P.Walnuts

walshb wrote: »

That still doesn't explain how serious career criminals are out on the streets committing serious crimes.....

How people and children are being murdered, mutilated, and displayed for communities to see....

Saying we are a safe country is a separate discussion... I am well aware of the statistics you are likely using to make this point.

How on earth are they separate discussions?

Either people are committing crime or they are not.

If you want to ignore statistics, that kinda proves my point.

utyh2ikcq9z76b

walshb wrote: »

What sort of damn society have we become with what is happening to our children?

Chopped up....

The law and the law enforcement in this country needs a serious overhaul.

In a nutshell: These acts are happening because there is very little repercussions to them......it's that simple.

Before it gets to these barbaric killings, it starts with petty crime, dealing, stealing, drugs, intimidation

We need serious penalties for these crimes...

Bang these people up for life....if that means building more prisons, do it. Charge them, get the conviction and put them away for life....

Life should be a sentence now for more than just murder. Convicted of being a member of a criminal gang? Life!

We are not far off US on the crime index
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

Drogheda even made it to this list
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/crime-rate-by-country/

NaDeise92

P.Walnuts wrote: »

People realise we live in one of the safest countries in the world right?

The hyperbole is gas every time ( about once every month) there's a gangland murder

Compare it with countries in Europe with similar populations and I think you'll find our crime rate is quite high. Its only getting worse and criminals are becoming more bold. Take the last few weeks for examples, the number of violent house burglary's. They couldn't give two fcuks if there's someone in the house or not. Zero fear of repercussions .
Its time for longer and harsher sentences.

2ndcoming

walshb wrote: »

Sick to the back teeth of this comparison with the U.S. and its 320 million people.

And the U.S. don’t bang everyone up for life either...

Ireland: 4.5 million. Simple: start putting criminals away for long stretches...

Not saying it cures everything, but it sends out a damn strong message that if you behave like scum, we will not tolerate it in our society..

Right now that is not at all the message. The message is the complete opposite.

Shambolicly lenient sentences for serious crimes... next to no actual deterrent.

This idiotic solution does not work. If anything a long stretch in prison would be less of a deterrent than the current most likely outcome of this lifestyle: violent, early death.

Yet despite that there is still a conveyor belt of willing apprentices to take the places of the 200+ that have been killed in Ireland's drug trade in the past 10 years, riddle me that.

AAAAAAAAA

Easton Calm Permit wrote: »

We are not far off US on the crime index
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

Drogheda even made it to this list
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp

Numbeo is not a real source for anything, all it takes to completely wanker even a major city or country's statistics is an afternoon of ballot stuffing.

ohnonotgmail

NaDeise92 wrote: »

Compare it with countries in Europe with similar populations and I think you'll find our crime rate is quite high. Its only getting worse and criminals are becoming more bold. Take the last few weeks for examples, the number of violent house burglary's. They couldn't give two fcuks if there's someone in the house or not. Zero fear of repercussions .
Its time for longer and harsher sentences.

we're really not. Our homicide rate is nearly identical to other western european countries and much better than eastern european countries.

Executioner511

The Government backed down on building a super prison as too many leftie lunnys opposed it you get what you voted in to office , too many weak minded liberals running the country who think reintegration is a better option for these lowlife Scumbags you have people like Katherine Zappone and Francis Fitzgerald closing down Saint Pat's and ending jailing young offenders as their human rights were being infringed ,when you have that sort of mindset in power you know the country is FKD.

2ndcoming

Executioner511 wrote: »

The Government backed down on building a super prison as too many leftie lunnys opposed it you get what you voted in to office , too many weak minded liberals running the country who think reintegration is a better option for these lowlife Scumbags you have people like Katherine Zappone and Francis Fitzgerald closing down Saint Pat's and ending jailing young offenders as their human rights were being infringed ,when you have that sort of mindset in power you know the country is FKD.

Loony lefties in Fine Gael.

Right...

walshb

2ndcoming wrote: »

This idiotic solution does not work. If anything a long stretch in prison would be less of a deterrent than the current most likely outcome of this lifestyle: violent, early death.

Yet despite that there is still a conveyor belt of willing apprentices to take the places of the 200+ that have been killed in Ireland's drug trade in the past 10 years, riddle me that.

So what is your solution? Allow these dangerous people to roam? Allow them freedom?

Did you ever think that this conveyor belt exists because maybe, just maybe, these willing apprentices have no fear of the repercussions? They know that the sentencing is shamefully on their side..

Are you honesty telling me that if the sentencing was really tough, they'd still be queuing up to replace?

So, the thoughts of 30-40 years behind bars as opposed to a few years means nothing to those willing apprentices? They are incapable of distinguishing or comprehending the difference to their lives, this?

Tacitus Kilgore

walshb wrote: »

So what is your solution? Allow these dangerous people to roam? Allow them freedom?

Did you ever think that this conveyor belt exists because maybe, just maybe, these willing apprentices have no fear of the repercussions? They know that the sentencing is shamefully on their side..

Are you honesty telling me that if the sentencing was really tough, they'd still be queuing up to replace?

So, the thoughts of 30-40 years behind bars as opposed to a few years means nothing to those willing apprentices? They are incapable of distinguishing or comprehending the difference to their lives, this?

Bold bit - yes, you are not dealing with people who care about consequences.

Do you honestly, genuinely think that harder sentences will stop gangland/drugs crime? It won't make the blindest bit of difference in reality.

The only thing that can stop gang/drug crime is by completely cutting off the revenue from it. That (which is almost impossible in itself), and nothing else will stop it.

Odyssey 2005

hankless wrote: »

Someone was killed.

A "child" according to Paul Reynolds !

utyh2ikcq9z76b

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

The only thing that can stop gang/drug crime is by completely cutting off the revenue from it. That (which is almost impossible in itself), and nothing else will stop it.

This is the real reason for the extreme crime, the profit margin in the cocaine markets. Legalized drugs and taxing the income would probably cut most of it out. They are all not going to become bank robbers or online hackers, the entry to other illegal high profit enterprises is beyond them.

SeaFields

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

A "child" according to Paul Reynolds !

He's no loss listening to Reynolds list his history. A highly dangerous guy.

ohnonotgmail

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

we're really not. Our homicide rate is nearly identical to other western european countries and much better than eastern european countries.

and the majority of em are begging for it

Odyssey 2005

SeaFields wrote: »

He's no loss listening to Reynolds list his history. A highly dangerous guy.

Couldn't agree more, but to call him a child is just looking to heighten emotions from ordinary people. He was as far removed from a child as any of us are.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

and the majority of em are begging for it

huh??

italodisco

olestoepoke wrote: »

Yep, unfortunately a lot of good people stuck in the middle of it. Mostly for economic reasons I'd say. No sane person with kids wouldn't move if they had the shillings to do it.

I'd rather live in my car with the daughter , join a community center gym and use their facilities for shower etc and cook on a camping gas stove , rather than let her grow up in amongst that utter sh!t .

The problem in those areas is that adults, not all but most, don't give a damn about there kids, where they are, what they're doing etc. Just drive through Darn of the dales or Fingerless or cuckoo lock in general at 10pm and you'll see kids well under 10 years old still out running around , up as late as midnight. Don't tell me that is nonsense as I see it regularly.