Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

IRE60

Beasty wrote: »

If anyone gets unsolicited and unwanted PMs, particularly ones with any threats, please report them

Jesus, that's it? On here are some serious bul2hitters and, possibly lurkers, with a bit of form. I'd lean towards the former. Chalk called it - all fur, no togs!

But the 'repremand' quoted above is beyond ridiculous. If someone is threatened via a pm, that poster will be sitebanned! I'd say they are sh1tting themselves.

Where the moral compass in that - a site ban for threateneing someone. If this were proper media, proper run media, one person threateneing another would be treated differently very differentlt. You are precising over one person telling another they will do some physical harm to another.

The response here is the threat of withdrawal of tv and sent to their room. Bo11ox.

Beasty

IRE60 wrote: »

Jesus, that's it? On here are some serious bul2hitters and, possibly lurkers, with a bit of form. I'd lean towards the former. Chalk called it - all fur, no togs!

But the 'repremand' quoted above is beyond ridiculous. If someone is threatened via a pm, that poster will be sitebanned! I'd say they are sh1tting themselves.

Where the moral compass in that - a site ban for threateneing someone. If this were proper media, proper run media, one person threateneing another would be treated differently very differentlt. You are precising over one person telling another they will do some physical harm to another.

The response here is the threat of withdrawal of tv and sent to their room. Bo11ox.

Take it to PM if you have an issue

This is not a discussion for this thread

Prisoner 0922156

Fantashtic wrote: »

Speculation post. If u were ruthless, a proven virtuoso in ur trade, would you have any involvement, in possibly the most gruesome gangland act, on a teenager ? If yes why.

No, beneath my pay grade. I'd leave it to people who have form for multiple stabbings, leaving people in baths or the boot of a car.

Titan2020

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVWC3gJ7A2dw&ved=2ahUKEwjzlPa17rPnAhW3VhUIHaHwBVcQwqsBMAN6BAgFEA0&usg=AOvVaw3E5rMfTH9N6DKEHIkL1T01

Titan2020

Intresting watch.. probably a load of bollocks. Can't see him ever getting out!

Robbie Crosby

Jstokes911 wrote: »

All quiet on the western front

it is thankfully

nothing more satisfying than a quiet life

Banana Republic.

Titan2020 wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVWC3gJ7A2dw&ved=2ahUKEwjzlPa17rPnAhW3VhUIHaHwBVcQwqsBMAN6BAgFEA0&usg=AOvVaw3E5rMfTH9N6DKEHIkL1T01

This Bernard O'Mahoney is a very good story teller, this should be interesting.

Jeff2

Titan2020 wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVWC3gJ7A2dw&ved=2ahUKEwjzlPa17rPnAhW3VhUIHaHwBVcQwqsBMAN6BAgFEA0&usg=AOvVaw3E5rMfTH9N6DKEHIkL1T01

You could post some info of what's in the link.
That would be helpful and I mean no offence.

Titan2020

Jeff2 wrote: »

You could post some info of what's in the link.
That would be helpful and I mean no offence.

None takin ðŸ˜
Short documentary on the dundons, Wayne Dundon reckons the state(cops) bribed the Collins and one of the McCarthys to give evidence against him for having Roy Collins shot

Dante7

Titan2020 wrote: »

None takin ðŸ˜
Short documentary on the dundons, Wayne Dundon reckons the state(cops) bribed the Collins and one of the McCarthys to give evidence against him for having Roy Collins shot

Well, what these clown shoes gangsters never seem to learn is that if you threaten the fabric of civilised society and the structures of the State, it will end very badly for you. In a different jurisdiction, they would be just taken out. I have seen plenty of people have the full force of the law utilised against them for passing a bogey €20 note or pass a snide cheque, as these crimes are a threat against the financial stability of a sovereign nation.

Robbie Crosby

Dante7 wrote: »

Well, what these clown shoes gangsters never seem to learn is that if you threaten the fabric of civilised society and the structures of the State, it will end very badly for you. In a different jurisdiction, they would be just taken out. I have seen plenty of people have the full force of the law utilised against them for passing a bogey €20 note or pass a snide cheque, as these crimes are a threat against the financial stability of a sovereign nation.

never a truer word was said

Banana Republic.

Titan2020 wrote: »

None takin ðŸ˜
Short documentary on the dundons, Wayne Dundon reckons the state(cops) bribed the Collins and one of the McCarthys to give evidence against him for having Roy Collins shot

You would think if someone has told all these lies that they wouldn't be walking around a free person and would have a bounty on their head or any retaliation then none of them will ever be released then?. Can't imagine that if their reputation is so true that these informers will be looking over their shoulders all their lives.

It's fascinating how The Gardaí locked him up for life without much evidence plus he was in prison at the time and these other killers lately are still out on the run. Wonder will the lad arrested cause of his bail breaking ever see the light of day again If The Gardaí really want him away forever. Shows the state can do it when they want to.

Banana Republic.

https://youtu.be/1RT2I4KXTro
Inside Irelands Gangland The Next Generation
Insight into what's current in the gangland world and what next generation is coming through.
No Respect ✔
No Trust ✔
No Loyalty ✔
Disorganized Crime ✔
Mistrust ✔

All of these are said to be very much at play and with this recent murder you can see all these things are very evident.

Titan2020

Ya gotta give it to oul April, She sure can pick em!

DUBLINHITMAN

Not a fan of bernard o'mahoney tbh.
I loved the whole Essex boys stories from his perspective.
I just think he milked it for too long and now he's doing Irish gangland documentaries like is he scraping the barrel now all of a sudden.
The english gangsters back in the day were looked up too, nowadays and especially here nobody cares what good they ever did,
It's just like the media tells you what they are what there evolved in and that's that.

Side tracked here but even saddam hussein wasn't all bad,
Didn't he donate **** loads of money to a church in Detroit after it was burned down or something,
Then he was issues the key of the city,

Mad how you have to Google the nice **** bad men have done,

Omackeral

The Dundons are even mad when banged up. So different to your regular inmate. This was written a few months ago.

From independent.ie

Gangland boss Wayne Dundon is back on 23-hour lockdown after prison staff carried out a raid on his cell.

He is in a segregated cell in Mountjoy where he is now subjected to regular searches and a strict regime.

Dundon, who is serving a life sentence for the murder of innocent businessman Roy Collins, has been left furious over the move.

An "Aladdin's cave" of contraband was recovered by a specialist search team attached to the Operational Support Group after they raided his cell in the B Basement.

Body cameras, recording devices, hacksaws, steroids, epi-pens and an Amazon fire stick were among some of the valuable prohibited items recovered.

As a result Dundon, along with his younger brother Dessie (34), were moved back to the prison's Challenging Behaviour Unit (CBU) in the C Basement.

Banana Republic.

DUBLINHITMAN wrote: »

Not a fan of bernard o'mahoney tbh.
I loved the whole Essex boys stories from his perspective.
I just think he milked it for too long and now he's doing Irish gangland documentaries like is he scraping the barrel now all of a sudden.
The english gangsters back in the day were looked up too, nowadays and especially here nobody cares what good they ever did,
It's just like the media tells you what they are what there evolved in and that's that.

Side tracked here but even saddam hussein wasn't all bad,
Didn't he donate **** loads of money to a church in Detroit after it was burned down or something,
Then he was issues the key of the city,

Mad how you have to Google the nice **** bad men have done,

Yea "good gangsters" eh but these lads are so young now and with nobody to look up to or to fear as a head figure their lives aren't filled with charity or any good work of note. Disorganised crime is the best description of the gangs that are around now but it's more and more about individuals, nobody can trust anyone, all out for themselves and that's why it's so chaotic. Off topic too Bin Laden looked after his people and his family massively but seen as the big bad guy. Like you say nobody ever reports that either.

Banana Republic.

Omackeral wrote: »

The Dundons are even mad when banged up. So different to your regular inmate. This was written a few months ago.

It's like anything if you can get away with it then why not, they must of let him get it all stacked up then just decided to fill their pockets and make themselves look great. You would wonder what they would be like released into today's chaos of individuals for themselves with no respect.

yk1985

Hi Lads first time posting, have read through whole tread and been following since KW incident, fairly up to date on whats happening and who is who<snip>

Mod note - please read all the warnings in the Opening Post before posting again - any questions PM me

Thanks

Beasty

Titan2020

Banana Republic. wrote: »

https://youtu.be/1RT2I4KXTro
Inside Irelands Gangland The Next Generation
Insight into what's current in the gangland world and what next generation is coming through.
No Respect ✔
No Trust ✔
No Loyalty ✔
Disorganized Crime ✔
Mistrust ✔
All of these are said to be very much at play and with this recent murder you can see all these things are very evident.

Lookin from the outside of all these turf wars has me thinking that most of these lads are thick as bricks..they bring way to much attention on them selves, I'm not from Dublin but fairly familiar with it, there's a killing to be made for a lad to go about his business and fly under the radar..why get caught up in all the flash and shootings?

Dante7

Titan2020 wrote: »

Lookin from the outside of all these turf wars has me thinking that most of these lads are thick as bricks..they bring way to much attention on them selves, I'm not from Dublin but fairly familiar with it, there's a killing to be made for a lad to go about his business and fly under the radar..why get caught up in all the flash and shootings?

All you have to look at is the Quilligan brothers in Cork chopping and burning the lad who dug up the Donovan graves. They thought they were invincible. They will do 15 years.

Titan2020

Dante7 wrote: »

All you have to look at is the Quilligan brothers in Cork chopping and burning the lad who dug up the Donovan graves. They thought they were invincible. They will do 15 years.

The Quiligans are nut jobs big traveller family in south east, Waterford and Cork, Simon Quilligan has takin the blade to plenty lads, the horse fair a couple of years ago, a pub in Waterford, A well known family in the area got locked in a pub and sliced up fairly bad, these younger lads are just pickin up where the older boys left off

avalidusername

guccimain wrote: »

Entirely separate

The man who had gold and drugs recently was a bar manager / small time dealer.

The country that he is from believe gold is better than cash.


Edited before people complain, it's known that this type of criminal investment is popular in the country that he is from.

I don't know how to word it without risking offending someone. 2020 is great.

Cheers for the reply Gucci, I was just curious as it doesn't seem to be a common occurrence that we hear of gold bars being seized so that's why I was wondering.

yk1985

gmck??team a/b post correct??new to thread just need few looses ends tied up have read it all interested since kw incident!

avalidusername

I think the Team A/B has the jist of it right as far as the majority of posters seem to agree on, or have heard.

GMcK is apparently the house which was forensically examined as a murder/dismemberment point on Rathmullen Park. It's the road parallel to Ballsgrove on google maps/streetview north of the green space, but the google car didn't go down the front of the houses on that part of Rathmullen Park. So you only see the back walls which coincide with some of the media pics of the back alley/lane by the crime scene, plus there's only a few single story bungalows in the area.

yk1985

thanks, thought gmck was a person, were i was getting lost with story..whats story with kb he is about the only person cant get hold of when i go through social media very hard to find compared to the rest

Banana Republic.

https://extra.ie/2020/02/01/news/irish-news/son-of-former-senior-garda-arrested-over-e1-6m-drug-seizure?fbclid=IwAR1lVsd7rF-6XWlh-33jGVos8vviVdB2_inmuooSu-rFo4PI8ed3mfJN-4k

The headline takeaway in this is:

Mr Big is believed to have high-level involvement in the brutal Drogheda feud that recently led to the murder of Keane Mulready-Woods.

Secretinfo

As I am just back from a ban for using initials on my very first post, I will try to be as ambiguous as I can going forward. It was my first time posting but had been following the thread for just over a year.
Unfortunately I did not read the MOD notes on Page 1 of this thread (My Bad) before posting for the first time last week, however I noticed subsequently while reading the thread throughout last week that many many other posters have and continue to use initials and nicknames without any repercussions. Maybe there are different rules for long term posters? I am not criticising MOD decisions, I just cant see the equality in these decisions.

That being said, here is a theory that I have regarding Drogheda and the arrest and incarceration of a feud member from there:

This feud member recently had their bail revoked - This is the only way I will reference this individual.

Now for the theory:

In 1996 Veronica Guerin was murdered. In the aftermath of this slaying there was enormous pressure on Gardai to bring down the gang responsible. The way they went about it was by analysing the gang and picking who they believed was the weakest link in the gang. The person they decided was the weakest link in the gang was charged with a minor offence taken into custody and cut off from the rest of the gang and also from the drugs lifestyle this person was used to living (Huge cocaine habit).

While he was in prison, he was isolated, had no access to cocaine and slowly began to talk to Gardai about why she was shot dead and by whom. This person was then given the full protection of the State for agreeing to testify against his fellow gang members. It took a few months but the Gardai did get all the info they required from this person leading to the gang leader and his 2nd in command being charged with very serious offences (In one case murder, and in another case drugs importation on a massive scale).

So now we have another gangland murder that has gripped the nation and the Gardai are again under pressure to smash the gang and bring those responsible to justice. How do they do that?

By taking who they believe to be the weakest link in the gang who is responsible for this horrific murder. They had the opportunity to lock him up for a really simple offence of breaching his bail conditions and took that route. Maybe the Gardai believe that by isolating him from the rest of the gang, cutting off his drug supply, and placing him in a prison (albeit on remand) where he is no more than a minnow (Compared to being a big fish in Drogheda), the Gardai believe that over time this may break him and he will turn states evidence against his fellow gang members who may have been responsible. Another criminal due for the Witness Protection Program?

Almost 25 years later the Gardai seem (To me at least) to be using the same tactics they used to smash the gang that murdered Veronica Guerin.

begbysback

Welcome back, hope you enjoyed your holiday, not sure if anyone ever reads mod notes to be fair so you are forgiven.

The 2 cases are completely different, in one a crime reporter was killed, crime reporters and guards/politicians work together on a daily basis so that became personal. Plus the guy who informed had some involvement in the murder so was looking at rotting away in jail for life.

This case, although he’s a kid he was a drug dealer, and as such fair game to an extent. Who would the guy in jail give up? Himself?

This case by the sounds of it will be solved by dna, if it is actually the site of the murder/dismemberment they found.

bigjohndoe

Secretinfo wrote: »

As I am just back from a ban for using initials on my very first post, I will try to be as ambiguous as I can going forward. It was my first time posting but had been following the thread for just over a year.
Unfortunately I did not read the MOD notes on Page 1 of this thread (My Bad) before posting for the first time last week, however I noticed subsequently while reading the thread throughout last week that many many other posters have and continue to use initials and nicknames without any repercussions. Maybe there are different rules for long term posters? I am not criticising MOD decisions, I just cant see the equality in these decisions.

That being said, here is a theory that I have regarding Drogheda and the arrest and incarceration of a feud member from there:

This feud member recently had their bail revoked - This is the only way I will reference this individual.

Now for the theory:

In 1996 Veronica Guerin was murdered. In the aftermath of this slaying there was enormous pressure on Gardai to bring down the gang responsible. The way they went about it was by analysing the gang and picking who they believed was the weakest link in the gang. The person they decided was the weakest link in the gang was charged with a minor offence taken into custody and cut off from the rest of the gang and also from the drugs lifestyle this person was used to living (Huge cocaine habit).

While he was in prison, he was isolated, had no access to cocaine and slowly began to talk to Gardai about why she was shot dead and by whom. This person was then given the full protection of the State for agreeing to testify against his fellow gang members. It took a few months but the Gardai did get all the info they required from this person leading to the gang leader and his 2nd in command being charged with very serious offences (In one case murder, and in another case drugs importation on a massive scale).

So now we have another gangland murder that has gripped the nation and the Gardai are again under pressure to smash the gang and bring those responsible to justice. How do they do that?

By taking who they believe to be the weakest link in the gang who is responsible for this horrific murder. They had the opportunity to lock him up for a really simple offence of breaching his bail conditions and took that route. Maybe the Gardai believe that by isolating him from the rest of the gang, cutting off his drug supply, and placing him in a prison (albeit on remand) where he is no more than a minnow (Compared to being a big fish in Drogheda), the Gardai believe that over time this may break him and he will turn states evidence against his fellow gang members who may have been responsible. Another criminal due for the Witness Protection Program?

Almost 25 years later the Gardai seem (To me at least) to be using the same tactics they used to smash the gang that murdered Veronica Guerin.

Hopefully not it seems this individual would have been instrumental in the horrible ending of the 17 year old . I hope he gets the book thrown at him considering he has been lucky before the courts before.

TheW1zard

How has no one been arrested for the latest murder Ill never know!

realdanbreen

What's the story with the 24 year old that was arrested the other night wit 1.5million worth of stuff in his car. Someone said his old man was a retired senior guard?

Haladmirer

The guy arrested for breaching bail and Involved in Keane's murder is one of the guys who will be ratted on not the ratter,not that he wouldn't do that just he won't be given the opportunity
It will be a lesser involved person than that who gets to rat

Haladmirer

realdanbreen wrote: »

What's the story with the 24 year old that was arrested the other night wit 1.5million worth of stuff in his car. Someone said his old man was a retired senior guard?

Just he was a cops son caught with Mr bigs gear
What more is there to know really

Beasty

Secretinfo wrote: »

I noticed subsequently while reading the thread throughout last week that many many other posters have and continue to use initials and nicknames without any repercussions. Maybe there are different rules for long term posters? I am not criticising MOD decisions, I just cant see the equality in these decisions.

Not for further discussion here but I'll just comment on this

Firstly there have been well over 2,000 posts deleted from this thread. A lot of posts that have been sanctioned are not visible, and there may be posters who have been punished where it is not visible (as is the case of your own ban)

Secondly context is key. Saying a known criminal (who has, for example, been found guilty of a crime) is a criminal is fine. Saying an identifiable individual is responsible for a crime they have not been convicted of is not

Thirdly we rely heavily on reported posts. I know I have been very active in moderating this thread in recent times, but I have certainly not gone through the whole thread looking for posts to sanction. I know Niamh from the office did spend some time deleting a number of references throughout the thread. If something is reported we will have a look and act as we see fit.

Fourthly you posted with no record on the site. You could have been one of our regular re-regs trying to stir things up. Hence taking you "out of the action" temporarily avoided things possibly escalating

Finally, and quite a few posters around here are aware of this, I indicated 1 week bans would become the norm because of all the trouble this thread was causing. However after issuing bans (and indeed some yellow cards), if a poster approached me unprompted via PM apologising for their actions, and this was their "first offence" I would typically lift the card or ban.

Of course this post may "prompt" others to do so, and I am certainly not saying I will treat posters on a similar basis going forward. However issuing a ban makes someone think about what they posted, and indeed as has happened in your case makes them take more care going forward. That's the main purpose of these short bans. If someone comes to me saying sorry and giving assurance they will not do the same sort of thing again I may well consider lifting a ban based on "time served"

Just to re-iterate though - this post is not for further discussion here and if anyone has any more queries about moderation please take it to PM

Beasty

begbysback wrote: »

not sure if anyone ever reads mod notes to be fair

Mod:

banned

no I'm not being serious

juno10353

Haladmirer wrote: »

Just he was a cops son caught with Mr bigs gear
What more is there to know really

It was said that father was a High Ranking ex cop. Interesting to know who father is, or whether he could ever have been in a position to be compromised

gw123gw

yk1985 wrote: »

thanks, thought gmck was a person, were i was getting lost with story..whats story with kb he is about the only person cant get hold of when i go through social media very hard to find compared to the rest

he has an old account with “boss” between his first and last names. There is more recent photos of him on a relatives page

Banana Republic.

juno10353 wrote: »

It was said that father was a High Ranking ex cop. Interesting to know who father is, or whether he could ever have been in a position to be compromised

In the link that I provided on the previous page the "Son" has been estranged from his father for a number of years now. It happens the world over that father's and sons become estranged but this just happens to be with a high ranking Garda and then his son is caught with over a million worth of drugs and a huge haul of cash. Automatically he's linked to his father but in real everyday life they aren't in each other's worlds anymore it seems.
Being linked to Mr Big and the link to the recent murder is far more intriguing.

Banana Republic.

TheW1zard wrote: »

How has no one been arrested for the latest murder Ill never know!

The long game is being played here and they have one of the major suspects locked up on a separate offence, remember the Gardaí and the State took down Hooligans Gang, The Dundons & The Kinahans who were ultra strong as a collective, on the basic knowledge of these gangs involved in the murder they are all individuals who'll turn on each other when the wind blows the other way, they'll be much easier to break. The murder has shown this already that double crossing was rampant already, in essence they'll destroy themselves most likely.

Sureitlbegrand

yk1985 wrote: »

thanks, thought gmck was a person, were i was getting lost with story..whats story with kb he is about the only person cant get hold of when i go through social media very hard to find compared to the rest

Gmck is a person hes an uncle of the man shot and killed in Clogherhead. He also owns the house beside the house the guards had sealed off and searched

Tootsie_1

Apologies if this has been addressed already, KM cousin is now missing is there a link here or coincidence ?

Banana Republic.

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

Apologies if this has been addressed already, KM cousin is now missing is there a link here or coincidence ?

Do you have a link to that? I ask as there was talk of this a few days after his body parts turned up, the cousin was found alive and well.

Banana Republic.

https://t.co/DTsdfCYJON?amp=1
Ignore the headline & read through it.

Overall, Garda expenditure was €1,669.2 million, some €3.1 million less than the annual budget of €1,672.3 million, which included a supplementary estimate of €17.5 million.
The fact some money was surrendered back to the exchequer at year end is likely to anger some members of the force and the Garda staff representative bodies as overtime was scaled back significantly during the year, with discretionary overtime stopped in the latter part of 2019.
The Gardaí are struggling with numbers and clamping down on gangland crime but can hand back
€2million they are crazy figures to see.

Ash.J.Williams

juno10353 wrote: »

It was said that father was a High Ranking ex cop. Interesting to know who father is, or whether he could ever have been in a position to be compromised

father and son don't speak

Tootsie_1

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Do you have a link to that? I ask as there was talk of this a few days after his body parts turned up, the cousin was found alive and well.

https://twitter.com/ChronicOG_2nd/status/1223970478836068354/photo/1

White lighting

https://twitter.com/padraig_reilly/status/1224320472822820866

Syndic

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/i-opened-the-bag-and-saw-a-human-leg-arms-and-flip-flops-man-who-found-remains-of-keane-mulready-woods-38918499.html

This story doesn't match up with what has been said around the area in regards to finding the bag so I've zero clue if it's all true but interesting read all the same.

IvoryTower

Sound like he was hoping to have found something of value, unlucky

KM792

Syndic wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/i-opened-the-bag-and-saw-a-human-leg-arms-and-flip-flops-man-who-found-remains-of-keane-mulready-woods-38918499.html

This story doesn't match up with what has been said around the area in regards to finding the bag so I've zero clue if it's all true but interesting read all the same.

That's very strange... I thought it was a teenager found it close to the green.Maybe he's trying to take the heat off his son who may have found it....

In fairness,if you were living in that area and heard a garda car chase..you wouldn't be seen to bring an abandoned sports bag into your house to see what's inside.Big mistake.