Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

OmarLittle187

Fedcba321 wrote: »

Pretty sure them two people aren’t related but I do think that the man arrested recently was holding the stuff for that side of the feud

Correct. Even though his sister is or was up until very recently in a long term relationship with a member of the maguire faction

Felix Guzman

Another gaff in Drogheda raided tonight €18000 of weed seized .

Prisoner 0922156

Thesiger wrote: »

I feel like we seem to know a lot less about the big players out in west Dublin - Clondalkin, Tallaght, etc. - than on the northside. Doesn’t seem to be as many social media-happy youngfellas involved posting their lives all over the internet.

Anyway, a Longford man with a skin condition was charged with the first, unsuccessful hit on Whelan back in September - https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-charged-with-attempted-murder-of-man-who-was-shot-in-west-dublin-gun-attack-38627674.html

While it seems two other Clondalkin men have already been charged in relation to his murder in December. So today’s two would make it four charged so far - https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/men-arrested-in-connection-with-death-of-wayne-whelan-1.4176226%3fmode=amp

Given that Whelan was said to be involved in crime in Clondalkin and Ballyfermot, would it be safe to assume ‘The Family’ who have attracted some media attention lately are likely involved in this in some way?

They put their own man in there and possibly decided he had to go.
https://www.rte.ie/amp/1094603/

Gadgetman496

Human remains have been found on a beach in County Donegal

Anyone gangland related missing?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51552339

Dante7

Felix Guzman wrote: »

Another gaff in Drogheda raided tonight €18000 of weed seized .

Less than a kilo so. Whoopee doo.

Thesiger

Prisoner 0922156 wrote: »

They put their own man in there and possibly decided he had to go.
https://www.rte.ie/amp/1094603/

Interesting article, a lot more detail than we normally get. No mention of the “family” though. As usual the Kinahans get randomly name-dropped though.

GBX

Prisoner 0922156 wrote: »

They put their own man in there and possibly decided he had to go.
https://www.rte.ie/amp/1094603/

I'd say the chances are slim.

OmarLittle187

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/gardai-investigate-as-feud-file-falls-into-hands-of-criminals-38970313.html

Gadgetman496

OmarLittle187 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/gardai-investigate-as-feud-file-falls-into-hands-of-criminals-38970313.html

Sc better head for the hills

leko99

OmarLittle187 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/gardai-investigate-as-feud-file-falls-into-hands-of-criminals-38970313.html

The partial document contains details on lower-tier members of the anti-Maguire faction and female associates of some of the leading gang members.

Is Drogheda that big that the Maguires couldnt find out these details themselves?

leko99

leko99 wrote: »

The partial document contains details on lower-tier members of the anti-Maguire faction and female associates of some of the leading gang members.

Is Drogheda that big that the Maguires couldnt find out these details themselves?

They would know all their main associates it’s probably just to put fear into anyone anyway connected to them

Hoboo

leko99 wrote: »

The partial document contains details on lower-tier members of the anti-Maguire faction and female associates of some of the leading gang members.

Is Drogheda that big that the Maguires couldnt find out these details themselves?

Yeah, population 40000, and 80000+ when you take in surrounding villages. To work out exact names and addresses takes the gardai months, let alone a bunch of lads who can't read.


The list is hilarious, its like a menu for the Maguire's. Full names and addresses. One particular girlfriend in Balbriggan driving a 2012 520 and a 152 Audi A6. At 21 years old. She's either sucking his cock or sucking everyones cock, fair play to her.

Gadgetman496

High Court freezes €52m worth of Bitcoin seized by CAB

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2020/0219/1116299-bit-coin-clifton-collins/

beerbellybob

hey-just a Q regarding the GIMs, not ctizing Garda but how do they have exact info that someone will come to harm-in my mind its something like: "we have been listening on wiretaps" or "a confidential informant told us X is going to kill Y" ETC

but then when someone is abducted and dismembered they cant make an arrest or even find the remains?

Just seems like a huge disconnect..we know that you are under threat to the point of issuing one of these but now your dead and we cant do anything???

also in my mind the Garda know exactly who did this but cant make any arrests or even interrogate someone-must drive them mad...


does anyone know what prompts these GIMs?

Dramalama80

beerbellybob wrote: »

hey-just a Q regarding the GIMs, not ctizing Garda but how do they have exact info that someone will come to harm-in my mind its something like: "we have been listening on wiretaps" or "a confidential informant told us X is going to kill Y" ETC

but then when someone is abducted and dismembered they cant make an arrest or even find the remains?

Just seems like a huge disconnect..we know that you are under threat to the point of issuing one of these but now your dead and we cant do anything???

also in my mind the Garda know exactly who did this but cant make any arrests or even interrogate someone-must drive them mad...


does anyone know what prompts these GIMs?

GIM's are discussed a few pages back

Lord_Slong

Prisoner 0922156 wrote: »

From what I've read, Desmond deserved it.

Yep, he did. That man was a sick puppy. I've met some evil people in my life, then I met the Guinea Pig. The stuff I witnessed him do and the stuff I heard is awful. His Da was no different. Aside from the double murder, he shot Noel 'handlebars' who was his friend. He was also known to penetrate the bum of young fellas who owed him a few bob.

He'd walk around Ballyer with a sawn off under his coat. He was at a house party and took two 'Guinea Pigs' that belonged to the kids that lived in the house and microwaved them, because he hated the name 'Guinea Pig' that the media put on him.

Lord_Slong

Thesiger wrote: »

Interesting article, a lot more detail than we normally get. No mention of the “family” though. As usual the Kinahans get randomly name-dropped though.

'The Family' aren't even the biggest players in Ballyfermot and Clondalkin. They're up there, but they're not the biggest, they're the most organised and prosessional is there's such a thing, but they're certainly not the biggest.

Hoboo

Hoboo wrote: »

Yeah, population 40000, and 80000+ when you take in surrounding villages. To work out exact names and addresses takes the gardai months, let alone a bunch of lads who can't read.


The list is hilarious, its like a menu for the Maguire's. Full names and addresses. One particular girlfriend in Balbriggan driving a 2012 520 and a 152 Audi A6. At 21 years old. She's either sucking his cock or sucking everyones cock, fair play to her.

The bmw isn’t hers it’s the boyfriends not sure about the Audi ,he used to have a 2015 a6 but cab took it, think the girlfriends family are wealthy though

Lord_Slong

Lord_Slong wrote: »

'The Family' aren't even the biggest players in Ballyfermot and Clondalkin. They're up there, but they're not the biggest, they're the most organised and prosessional is there's such a thing, but they're certainly not the biggest.

Who’s the biggest

Lord_Slong

Fedcba321 wrote: »

Who’s the biggest

In Ballyfermot it would be Dee Dee's and an unnamed man who's in custody for a stabbing, their crew. The young lads in their crew are animals, viscous little runts. They've also got their hands in a lot of pies. Ballyfermot is a strange one, for a relatively small place there's a few different gangs operating but a war over drugs turf has never broken out. There's been feuds but never anything over who sold what, and where.

In Clondalkin, not one gang controls it the place is ran by numerous different outfits also operating in sync. Again, plenty of stabbings and gun attacks but none over territory as such. Its quite odd. Ballyfermot and Clondalkin are also side by side in proximity so alot of the same 'big' dealers that supply the street level fellas would operate in both area codes.

Thesiger

Lord_Slong wrote: »

'The Family' aren't even the biggest players in Ballyfermot and Clondalkin. They're up there, but they're not the biggest, they're the most organised and prosessional is there's such a thing, but they're certainly not the biggest.

Thanks, info is hard to come by on that part of Dublin, even though Clondalkin’s had a lot of murders over the years.

Lord_Slong

Thesiger wrote: »

Thanks, info is hard to come by on that part of Dublin, even though Clondalkin’s had a lot of murders over the years.

I was just talking about this exact subject with someone from there. We were highlighting how both area codes stay out of the media spotlight in terms of drugs. Apart from 'the Family' neither area has been in the media for drugs in a whole despite both areas thriving for the dealers.

The young fellas in Ballyfermot in particular are a different breed altogether. It's like they operate with complete immunity from the Gardai. Despite numerous raids, with vast sums of drugs and cash found you almost never hear of the sentences the suspects gets. Makes you wonder.

Thesiger

Lord_Slong wrote: »

I was just talking abiut about this exact subject with someone from there. We were highlighting how both area codes stay out of the media spotlight in terms of drugs. Apart from 'the Family'either area has been in the media for drugs in a whole despite both areas thriving for the dealers.

The young fellas in Ballyfermot in particular are a different breed altogether. It's like they operate with complete immunity from the Gardai. Despite numerous raids, with vast sums of drugs and cash found you almost never hear of the sentences the suspects gets. Makes you wonder.

Tallaght too it seems, wouldn’t be able to come up with a single name in relation to the drug trade there, but logically it must be a huge market.

Lord_Slong

Thesiger wrote: »

Tallaght too it seems, wouldn’t be able to come up with a single name in relation to the drug trade there, but logically it must be a huge market.

Dee Dee would have a hand in the trade up there. Paul Rice would have, but he seems to have fallen off the radar. The family also have a hand up there as well as a Traveller mob.

Thesiger

Lord_Slong wrote: »

Yep, he did. That man was a sick puppy. I've met some evil people in my life, then I met the Guinea Pig. The stuff I witnessed him do and the stuff I heard is awful. His Da was no different. Aside from the double murder, he shot Noel 'handlebars' who was his friend. He was also known to penetrate the bum of young fellas who owed him a few bob.

He'd walk around Ballyer with a sawn off under his coat. He was at a house party and took two 'Guinea Pigs' that belonged to the kids that lived in the house and microwaved them, because he hated the name 'Guinea Pig' that the media put on him.

I read on here last year that he was fairly intelligent and well-read. Reports mention he represented himself in court. Would that be accurate at all?

Lord_Slong

Thesiger wrote: »

I read on here last year that he was fairly intelligent and well-read. Reports mention he represented himself in court. Would that be accurate at all?

He was well versed in law, I'd say that was more to do with being able to give the Gardai a two fingered salute. If you're talking about general intelligence: I wouldn't call him stupid nor intelligent. It's more confusing honestly. You'd look at Mark and not think much, but then he'd speak and you'd be confused because of how he spoke. One thing for sure is that there was evil behind those eyes, you just needed to look when speaking to him and you could see it.

Hoboo

Fedcba321 wrote: »

The bmw isn’t hers it’s the boyfriends not sure about the Audi ,he used to have a 2015 a6 but cab took it, think the girlfriends family are wealthy though

Neither cars are hers, we know that. Unless they just don't like spending money they definitely don't have a pot to piss in, their house is a kip.

SEPT 23 1989

Lord_Slong wrote: »

'The Family' aren't even the biggest players in Ballyfermot and Clondalkin. They're up there, but they're not the biggest, they're the most organised and prosessional is there's such a thing, but they're certainly not the biggest.

Is the head of the biggest not doing 13 years presently

u140acro3xs7dm

Lord_Slong wrote: »

In Ballyfermot it would be Dee Dee's and an unnamed man who's in custody for a stabbing, their crew. The young lads in their crew are animals, viscous little runts. They've also got their hands in a lot of pies. Ballyfermot is a strange one, for a relatively small place there's a few different gangs operating but a war over drugs turf has never broken out. There's been feuds but never anything over who sold what, and where.

In Clondalkin, not one gang controls it the place is ran by numerous different outfits also operating in sync. Again, plenty of stabbings and gun attacks but none over territory as such. Its quite odd. Ballyfermot and Clondalkin are also side by side in proximity so alot of the same 'big' dealers that supply the street level fellas would operate in both area codes.

Is he not working along side the family? Different crews, but on very friendly terms.

Rows Grower

Keane murder gang boss arrested in Spain for breaking girlfriends jaw according to news reports.

White lighting

https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/1230422686460973056

Lord_Slong

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Is the head of the biggest not doing 13 years presently

I forgot all about them. They don't have as much clout as they once had.

Lord_Slong

Ariana Noisy Farming wrote: »

Is he not working along side the family? Different crews, but on very friendly terms.

They're not working together but they coexist and don't seem to step on each others toes.

Felix Guzman

White lighting wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/1230422686460973056

Both arrested in Drogheda , 1 been detained in Drogheda 1 in Balbriggan.

Thedogsbolix

KB arrested in spain

IvoryTower

For breaking his missus jaw. Lovely chap

Thedogsbolix

Thedogsbolix wrote: »

KB arrested in spain

Any link or what’s your source? Pretty sure he was home other day ?

Lashes28

White lighting wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/1230422686460973056

Any ideas who is arrested?

Baymax2020

The owner of the abattoir where KMW was butchered is detained in Drogheda

Felix Guzman

Baymax2020 wrote: »

The owner of the abattoir where KMW was butchered is detained in Drogheda

Mck ?

Baymax2020

The one and only

P.Walnuts

The IT stressing that prosecutions without a cause of death are extremely unlikely....

Graham Dwyer the exception

Felix Guzman

P.Walnuts wrote: »

The IT stressing that prosecutions without a cause of death are extremely unlikely....

Graham Dwyer the exception

You would think a few of them were stupid enough to have mobiles on them will probably be some sort of technical forensics that gives them away .

P.Walnuts

Felix Guzman wrote: »

You would think a few of them were stupid enough to have mobiles on them will probably be some sort of technical forensics that gives them away .

I can't imagine mobile pings would give your specific location in Drogheda away

Stevieluvsye

Felix Guzman wrote: »

You would think a few of them were stupid enough to have mobiles on them will probably be some sort of technical forensics that gives them away .

You can't pin mobiles to a specific location

Felix Guzman

P.Walnuts wrote: »

I can't imagine mobile pings would give your specific location in Drogheda away

No necessarily exact location but who was in contact with who before , during and after . Mate of mine got 3 years for something he did and was mobile communication that done him.

Stevieluvsye

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Well, the issue is they can't prove murder without a cause of death.

I would have thought a severed head and legs would look slightly suspicious

u140acro3xs7dm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I would have thought a severed head and legs would look slightly suspicious

It's not a cause of death though, unless they can prove that he died by beheading.

P.Walnuts

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I would have thought a severed head and legs would look slightly suspicious

Disposing of a body isn't murder

KM792

It's being reported in the Mirror Gardai believe it's possible Mr Big did in fact receive the torso but will never co-operate with an investigation because he won't want his property searched.

Interesting enough...