Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

Klopplfc20

Boards.ie: Niamh wrote: »

I've just deleted a load of nonsense posts - please do not engage with the obvious stirring going on.

Alanwrats, do not post in this thread again.

I wouldn't say I was stirring....i mention things on the topic and get challenged and it goes off topic if you look at my posts I repeatedly said said let's get back on to the issue....ps hope all goes well tomorrow for the March as ppl stated before it's going to go quite for a while.....

2PLUS2EQUALS10

Although it’s nothing to do with Ireland gangland, the same day Keane was brutally murdered, in my suburbs of the city of Sheffield, a 12 year old boy was shot in a drive-by shooting.

The background to the dispute is very similar to the feud in Drogheda, only the dickhead has been arrested/charged and remanded in prison until his trial.

Society is well an truly f#####

Banana Republic.

Klopplfc20 wrote: »

I wouldn't say I was stirring....i mention things on the topic and get challenged and it goes off topic if you look at my posts I repeatedly said said let's get back on to the issue....ps hope all goes well tomorrow for the March as ppl stated before it's going to go quite for a while.....

Agreed on the March, hopefully it stays quiet and the peaceful people get to live their normal lives again without thinking what madness will happen next. Communities can show drugs the door as seen in times gone past.

2PLUS2EQUALS10

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Agreed on the March, hopefully it starts quiet and the peaceful people get to live their normal lives again without thinking what madness will happen next. Communities can show drugs the door as seen in times gone past.

I can only give an opinion based of my community! but don’t you think communities are so diverse nowadays, people don’t seem to come together for the greater good?

I feel we live in a selfish society

Hoboo

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Agreed on the March, hopefully it stays quiet and the peaceful people get to live their normal lives again without thinking what madness will happen next. Communities can show drugs the door as seen in times gone past.

Like where? The people who sell them change, the product remains.

Illgetmycoat

Hoboo wrote: »

Like where? The people who sell them change, the product remains.

true, and putting down harsher sentences does not work either in reality, just look at US 3 strikes and your put in prison for life.

Banana Republic.

2PLUS2EQUALS10 wrote: »

I can only give an opinion based of my community! but don’t you think communities are so diverse nowadays, people don’t seem to come together for the greater good?

I feel we live in a selfish society

Totally, most communities are not real communities anymore but for the area to be safe everyone has that goal so that's a common cause no matter what your diverse background is.

2PLUS2EQUALS10

Hoboo wrote: »

Like where? The people who sell them change, the product remains.

Correct!

As a Police officer said to me once, for every dealer we arrest, 2-3 more are waiting in the wings. It’s like a game of Whack-a-Mole for the Police.

Banana Republic.

Hoboo wrote: »

Like where? The people who sell them change, the product remains.

Sure wasn't it in Dublin in the past (how long ago I'm unsure) ppl organised groups to get
Communities can work with the police and added with that harsher sentences, there needs to be a certain cap to offences and then get a mandatory sentence once that threshold is reached. There needs to be a fully functioning plan for communities to feel safe and confident in rejecting these drugs dealers, starts with government back and policies filtered through the Garda and then into communities.

Banana Republic.

2PLUS2EQUALS10 wrote: »

Correct!

As a Police officer said to me once, for every dealer we arrest, 2-3 more are waiting in the wings. It’s like a game of Whack-a-Mole for the Police.

Then policies need to be tightened, it's not an endless supply of dealers, the bigger the sentences the bigger the deterrent, look at how they dismantled Limerick, it can be done, not easy nor fast but with a long term strategy that stays like that even when it quietens down. Nothing worse then hassle hassle and disruption everywhere you turn.

ballsdeep69

https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/she-wanted-everybody-dead-the-kids-too-gran-trial-accused-told-gardai-38887471.html

Have you seen these people - Crime call description.

Stevieluvsye

ballsdeep69 wrote: »

https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/she-wanted-everybody-dead-the-kids-too-gran-trial-accused-told-gardai-38887471.html

Have you seen these people - Crime call description.

Another one who was chopped up

piplip87

There needs to be harsher sentences for users. Caught out on a weekend with a gram of coke ? Fair enough 3 years in prison.

As an ex weekend user I would have quit alot sooner if the penalty was more than a slap on the wrists. Cut of demand is the only way to go

Klopplfc20

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Then policies need to be tightened, it's not an endless supply of dealers, the bigger the sentences the bigger the deterrent, look at how they dismantled Limerick, it can be done, not easy nor fast but with a long term strategy that stays like that even when it quietens down. Nothing worse then hassle hassle and disruption everywhere you turn.

It's hard to have a long term plan when there are different leaders/partys changing every few years. No matter how good some methods are working there will be some new president that will change it anyway

Klopplfc20

piplip87 wrote: »

There needs to be harsher sentences for users. Caught out on a weekend with a gram of coke ? Fair enough 3 years in prison.

As an ex weekend user I would have quit alot sooner if the penalty was more than a slap on the wrists. Cut of demand is the only way to go

And where would you put these 1000s of people that would get caught first to set the example?

Banana Republic.

Klopplfc20 wrote: »

It's hard to have a long term plan when there are different leaders/partys changing every few years. No matter how good some methods are working there will be some new president that will change it anyway

Should be written into Irish law where a vote can only be made by the people of governments want to change it, there has to be a way to make these things stick. It's the only way, if ppl are going to get into it they have to know there's consequences, like teaching a child from a young age. Otherwise they won't stop to think.

ballsdeep69

piplip87 wrote: »

There needs to be harsher sentences for users. Caught out on a weekend with a gram of coke ? Fair enough 3 years in prison.

As an ex weekend user I would have quit alot sooner if the penalty was more than a slap on the wrists. Cut of demand is the only way to go

your Ruthless.

Klopplfc20

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Should be written into Irish law where a vote can only be made by the people of governments want to change it, there has to be a way to make these things stick. It's the only way, if ppl are going to get into it they have to know there's consequences, like teaching a child from a young age. Otherwise they won't stop to think.

They obviously have to tighten up but also politicians should take some blame.....it looks to me like some estates in ireland the government dont bother with and leave peaple to it like the wild west but tuckd away from the big citys and it's like the local councils in some places just let rubbish build up. But this is just an opinion from afar

Patrick2010

looks like someone will be having a cell search...

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5020374/mr-flashy-scott-capper-brother-selfie-prison/

A CRAZED thug who works as muscle for Mr Flashy’s gang poses alongside his “brother” behind bars — who’s facing a firearm and ammunition rap.

The Irish Sun’s exclusive behind-the-bars pic shows Scott Capper, who is serving a three-and-a-half-year sentence, using a smartphone to grab a snap with a pal from Dublin.

Banana Republic.

Klopplfc20 wrote: »

They obviously have to tighten up but also politicians should take some blame.....it looks to me like some estates in ireland the government dont bother with and leave peaple to it like the wild west but tuckd away from the big citys and it's like the local councils in some places just let rubbish build up. But this is just an opinion from afar

You're right and that's the worst thing cause then it takes a whole lot more to manage when it combusts then. The waste of money from Garda having to police an area in the aftermath of what happened is sickening for the tax paying law abiding citizens of the country. No matter where you're from we all count in this country.

2PLUS2EQUALS10

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Then policies need to be tightened, it's not an endless supply of dealers, the bigger the sentences the bigger the deterrent, look at how they dismantled Limerick, it can be done, not easy nor fast but with a long term strategy that stays like that even when it quietens down. Nothing worse then hassle hassle and disruption everywhere you turn.

It would take someone like Trump to really combat this problem.

Imagine if all these major growers across the world feared total loss on the production if allies across the globe really focused on drugs? If they wanted to solve this problem they could, but our world is full of people looking for a quiet life.

If every leader had Rodrigo Duterte’s approach to drugs, although maybe tone it down a little, we might start changing the next generation.

Stevieluvsye

Patrick2010 wrote: »

looks like someone will be having a cell search...

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5020374/mr-flashy-scott-capper-brother-selfie-prison/

A CRAZED thug who works as muscle for Mr Flashy’s gang poses alongside his “brother” behind bars — who’s facing a firearm and ammunition rap.

The Irish Sun’s exclusive behind-the-bars pic shows Scott Capper, who is serving a three-and-a-half-year sentence, using a smartphone to grab a snap with a pal from Dublin.

Fcuk me, i wouldn't fancy getting a smack off him

Hoboo

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Sure wasn't it in Dublin in the past (how long ago I'm unsure) ppl organised groups to get
Communities can work with the police and added with that harsher sentences, there needs to be a certain cap to offences and then get a mandatory sentence once that threshold is reached. There needs to be a fully functioning plan for communities to feel safe and confident in rejecting these drugs dealers, starts with government back and policies filtered through the Garda and then into communities.

Yeah the late 80s early 90's in the flats. Few local dealers had to move and then back to business. Pushers out and all that codology? If there was a ever a war on drugs, drugs won hands down 30 years ago.

All the rest is candy coating from TD's. You can fill as many prisons you like and throw away ever key, won't change a thing. It's all been done and failed.

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Madge2007 wrote: »

For the sweet luv of Jesus! The guards cud arrest every criminal in the country before bedtime and a good solicitor/barrister wud hav 95% of them back home for their breakfast...... U need water tight evidence ffs

It's about prevention. Active policing, not waiting until after the fact.

ChikiChiki

piplip87 wrote: »

There needs to be harsher sentences for users. Caught out on a weekend with a gram of coke ? Fair enough 3 years in prison.

As an ex weekend user I would have quit alot sooner if the penalty was more than a slap on the wrists. Cut of demand is the only way to go

I think naming and shaming in the papers for first offence and sentencing for 2nd would be sufficient.

No one would want their employer and family knowing they are on the bag.

NaDeise92

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Fcuk me, i wouldn't fancy getting a smack off him

Yeah he's meant to be some goer alright

2PLUS2EQUALS10

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Fcuk me, i wouldn't fancy getting a smack off him

My first question would be, why are known associates/family held within the same prison?

Stevieluvsye

NaDeise92 wrote: »

Yeah he's meant to be some goer alright

Size of him! I doubt he gets much hassle in there

The Satanist

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Size of him! I doubt he gets much hassle in there

His head is so small, he'd be near impossible to ko

Stevieluvsye

2PLUS2EQUALS10 wrote: »

My first question would be, why are known associates/family held within the same prison?

Only a handful of prisons in Ireland chief. Be impossible to split everyone up