Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

IRE60

Beasty wrote: »

If anyone gets unsolicited and unwanted PMs, particularly ones with any threats, please report them

Jesus, that's it? On here are some serious bul2hitters and, possibly lurkers, with a bit of form. I'd lean towards the former. Chalk called it - all fur, no togs!

But the 'repremand' quoted above is beyond ridiculous. If someone is threatened via a pm, that poster will be sitebanned! I'd say they are sh1tting themselves.

Where the moral compass in that - a site ban for threateneing someone. If this were proper media, proper run media, one person threateneing another would be treated differently very differentlt. You are precising over one person telling another they will do some physical harm to another.

The response here is the threat of withdrawal of tv and sent to their room. Bo11ox.

Beasty

IRE60 wrote: »

Jesus, that's it? On here are some serious bul2hitters and, possibly lurkers, with a bit of form. I'd lean towards the former. Chalk called it - all fur, no togs!

But the 'repremand' quoted above is beyond ridiculous. If someone is threatened via a pm, that poster will be sitebanned! I'd say they are sh1tting themselves.

Where the moral compass in that - a site ban for threateneing someone. If this were proper media, proper run media, one person threateneing another would be treated differently very differentlt. You are precising over one person telling another they will do some physical harm to another.

The response here is the threat of withdrawal of tv and sent to their room. Bo11ox.

Take it to PM if you have an issue

This is not a discussion for this thread

Prisoner 0922156

Fantashtic wrote: »

Speculation post. If u were ruthless, a proven virtuoso in ur trade, would you have any involvement, in possibly the most gruesome gangland act, on a teenager ? If yes why.

No, beneath my pay grade. I'd leave it to people who have form for multiple stabbings, leaving people in baths or the boot of a car.

Titan2020

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVWC3gJ7A2dw&ved=2ahUKEwjzlPa17rPnAhW3VhUIHaHwBVcQwqsBMAN6BAgFEA0&usg=AOvVaw3E5rMfTH9N6DKEHIkL1T01

Titan2020

Intresting watch.. probably a load of bollocks. Can't see him ever getting out!

Robbie Crosby

Jstokes911 wrote: »

All quiet on the western front

it is thankfully

nothing more satisfying than a quiet life

Banana Republic.

Titan2020 wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVWC3gJ7A2dw&ved=2ahUKEwjzlPa17rPnAhW3VhUIHaHwBVcQwqsBMAN6BAgFEA0&usg=AOvVaw3E5rMfTH9N6DKEHIkL1T01

This Bernard O'Mahoney is a very good story teller, this should be interesting.

Jeff2

Titan2020 wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVWC3gJ7A2dw&ved=2ahUKEwjzlPa17rPnAhW3VhUIHaHwBVcQwqsBMAN6BAgFEA0&usg=AOvVaw3E5rMfTH9N6DKEHIkL1T01

You could post some info of what's in the link.
That would be helpful and I mean no offence.

Titan2020

Jeff2 wrote: »

You could post some info of what's in the link.
That would be helpful and I mean no offence.

None takin ðŸ˜
Short documentary on the dundons, Wayne Dundon reckons the state(cops) bribed the Collins and one of the McCarthys to give evidence against him for having Roy Collins shot

Dante7

Titan2020 wrote: »

None takin ðŸ˜
Short documentary on the dundons, Wayne Dundon reckons the state(cops) bribed the Collins and one of the McCarthys to give evidence against him for having Roy Collins shot

Well, what these clown shoes gangsters never seem to learn is that if you threaten the fabric of civilised society and the structures of the State, it will end very badly for you. In a different jurisdiction, they would be just taken out. I have seen plenty of people have the full force of the law utilised against them for passing a bogey €20 note or pass a snide cheque, as these crimes are a threat against the financial stability of a sovereign nation.

Robbie Crosby

Dante7 wrote: »

Well, what these clown shoes gangsters never seem to learn is that if you threaten the fabric of civilised society and the structures of the State, it will end very badly for you. In a different jurisdiction, they would be just taken out. I have seen plenty of people have the full force of the law utilised against them for passing a bogey €20 note or pass a snide cheque, as these crimes are a threat against the financial stability of a sovereign nation.

never a truer word was said

Banana Republic.

Titan2020 wrote: »

None takin ðŸ˜
Short documentary on the dundons, Wayne Dundon reckons the state(cops) bribed the Collins and one of the McCarthys to give evidence against him for having Roy Collins shot

You would think if someone has told all these lies that they wouldn't be walking around a free person and would have a bounty on their head or any retaliation then none of them will ever be released then?. Can't imagine that if their reputation is so true that these informers will be looking over their shoulders all their lives.

It's fascinating how The Gardaí locked him up for life without much evidence plus he was in prison at the time and these other killers lately are still out on the run. Wonder will the lad arrested cause of his bail breaking ever see the light of day again If The Gardaí really want him away forever. Shows the state can do it when they want to.

Banana Republic.

https://youtu.be/1RT2I4KXTro
Inside Irelands Gangland The Next Generation
Insight into what's current in the gangland world and what next generation is coming through.
No Respect ✔
No Trust ✔
No Loyalty ✔
Disorganized Crime ✔
Mistrust ✔

All of these are said to be very much at play and with this recent murder you can see all these things are very evident.

Titan2020

Ya gotta give it to oul April, She sure can pick em!

DUBLINHITMAN

Not a fan of bernard o'mahoney tbh.
I loved the whole Essex boys stories from his perspective.
I just think he milked it for too long and now he's doing Irish gangland documentaries like is he scraping the barrel now all of a sudden.
The english gangsters back in the day were looked up too, nowadays and especially here nobody cares what good they ever did,
It's just like the media tells you what they are what there evolved in and that's that.

Side tracked here but even saddam hussein wasn't all bad,
Didn't he donate **** loads of money to a church in Detroit after it was burned down or something,
Then he was issues the key of the city,

Mad how you have to Google the nice **** bad men have done,

Omackeral

The Dundons are even mad when banged up. So different to your regular inmate. This was written a few months ago.

From independent.ie

Gangland boss Wayne Dundon is back on 23-hour lockdown after prison staff carried out a raid on his cell.

He is in a segregated cell in Mountjoy where he is now subjected to regular searches and a strict regime.

Dundon, who is serving a life sentence for the murder of innocent businessman Roy Collins, has been left furious over the move.

An "Aladdin's cave" of contraband was recovered by a specialist search team attached to the Operational Support Group after they raided his cell in the B Basement.

Body cameras, recording devices, hacksaws, steroids, epi-pens and an Amazon fire stick were among some of the valuable prohibited items recovered.

As a result Dundon, along with his younger brother Dessie (34), were moved back to the prison's Challenging Behaviour Unit (CBU) in the C Basement.

Banana Republic.

DUBLINHITMAN wrote: »

Not a fan of bernard o'mahoney tbh.
I loved the whole Essex boys stories from his perspective.
I just think he milked it for too long and now he's doing Irish gangland documentaries like is he scraping the barrel now all of a sudden.
The english gangsters back in the day were looked up too, nowadays and especially here nobody cares what good they ever did,
It's just like the media tells you what they are what there evolved in and that's that.

Side tracked here but even saddam hussein wasn't all bad,
Didn't he donate **** loads of money to a church in Detroit after it was burned down or something,
Then he was issues the key of the city,

Mad how you have to Google the nice **** bad men have done,

Yea "good gangsters" eh but these lads are so young now and with nobody to look up to or to fear as a head figure their lives aren't filled with charity or any good work of note. Disorganised crime is the best description of the gangs that are around now but it's more and more about individuals, nobody can trust anyone, all out for themselves and that's why it's so chaotic. Off topic too Bin Laden looked after his people and his family massively but seen as the big bad guy. Like you say nobody ever reports that either.

Banana Republic.

Omackeral wrote: »

The Dundons are even mad when banged up. So different to your regular inmate. This was written a few months ago.

It's like anything if you can get away with it then why not, they must of let him get it all stacked up then just decided to fill their pockets and make themselves look great. You would wonder what they would be like released into today's chaos of individuals for themselves with no respect.

yk1985

Hi Lads first time posting, have read through whole tread and been following since KW incident, fairly up to date on whats happening and who is who<snip>

Mod note - please read all the warnings in the Opening Post before posting again - any questions PM me

Thanks

Beasty

Titan2020

Banana Republic. wrote: »

https://youtu.be/1RT2I4KXTro
Inside Irelands Gangland The Next Generation
Insight into what's current in the gangland world and what next generation is coming through.
No Respect ✔
No Trust ✔
No Loyalty ✔
Disorganized Crime ✔
Mistrust ✔
All of these are said to be very much at play and with this recent murder you can see all these things are very evident.

Lookin from the outside of all these turf wars has me thinking that most of these lads are thick as bricks..they bring way to much attention on them selves, I'm not from Dublin but fairly familiar with it, there's a killing to be made for a lad to go about his business and fly under the radar..why get caught up in all the flash and shootings?

Dante7

Titan2020 wrote: »

Lookin from the outside of all these turf wars has me thinking that most of these lads are thick as bricks..they bring way to much attention on them selves, I'm not from Dublin but fairly familiar with it, there's a killing to be made for a lad to go about his business and fly under the radar..why get caught up in all the flash and shootings?

All you have to look at is the Quilligan brothers in Cork chopping and burning the lad who dug up the Donovan graves. They thought they were invincible. They will do 15 years.

Titan2020

Dante7 wrote: »

All you have to look at is the Quilligan brothers in Cork chopping and burning the lad who dug up the Donovan graves. They thought they were invincible. They will do 15 years.

The Quiligans are nut jobs big traveller family in south east, Waterford and Cork, Simon Quilligan has takin the blade to plenty lads, the horse fair a couple of years ago, a pub in Waterford, A well known family in the area got locked in a pub and sliced up fairly bad, these younger lads are just pickin up where the older boys left off

avalidusername

guccimain wrote: »

Entirely separate

The man who had gold and drugs recently was a bar manager / small time dealer.

The country that he is from believe gold is better than cash.


Edited before people complain, it's known that this type of criminal investment is popular in the country that he is from.

I don't know how to word it without risking offending someone. 2020 is great.

Cheers for the reply Gucci, I was just curious as it doesn't seem to be a common occurrence that we hear of gold bars being seized so that's why I was wondering.

yk1985

gmck??team a/b post correct??new to thread just need few looses ends tied up have read it all interested since kw incident!

avalidusername

I think the Team A/B has the jist of it right as far as the majority of posters seem to agree on, or have heard.

GMcK is apparently the house which was forensically examined as a murder/dismemberment point on Rathmullen Park. It's the road parallel to Ballsgrove on google maps/streetview north of the green space, but the google car didn't go down the front of the houses on that part of Rathmullen Park. So you only see the back walls which coincide with some of the media pics of the back alley/lane by the crime scene, plus there's only a few single story bungalows in the area.

yk1985

thanks, thought gmck was a person, were i was getting lost with story..whats story with kb he is about the only person cant get hold of when i go through social media very hard to find compared to the rest

Banana Republic.

https://extra.ie/2020/02/01/news/irish-news/son-of-former-senior-garda-arrested-over-e1-6m-drug-seizure?fbclid=IwAR1lVsd7rF-6XWlh-33jGVos8vviVdB2_inmuooSu-rFo4PI8ed3mfJN-4k

The headline takeaway in this is:

Mr Big is believed to have high-level involvement in the brutal Drogheda feud that recently led to the murder of Keane Mulready-Woods.

Secretinfo

As I am just back from a ban for using initials on my very first post, I will try to be as ambiguous as I can going forward. It was my first time posting but had been following the thread for just over a year.
Unfortunately I did not read the MOD notes on Page 1 of this thread (My Bad) before posting for the first time last week, however I noticed subsequently while reading the thread throughout last week that many many other posters have and continue to use initials and nicknames without any repercussions. Maybe there are different rules for long term posters? I am not criticising MOD decisions, I just cant see the equality in these decisions.

That being said, here is a theory that I have regarding Drogheda and the arrest and incarceration of a feud member from there:

This feud member recently had their bail revoked - This is the only way I will reference this individual.

Now for the theory:

In 1996 Veronica Guerin was murdered. In the aftermath of this slaying there was enormous pressure on Gardai to bring down the gang responsible. The way they went about it was by analysing the gang and picking who they believed was the weakest link in the gang. The person they decided was the weakest link in the gang was charged with a minor offence taken into custody and cut off from the rest of the gang and also from the drugs lifestyle this person was used to living (Huge cocaine habit).

While he was in prison, he was isolated, had no access to cocaine and slowly began to talk to Gardai about why she was shot dead and by whom. This person was then given the full protection of the State for agreeing to testify against his fellow gang members. It took a few months but the Gardai did get all the info they required from this person leading to the gang leader and his 2nd in command being charged with very serious offences (In one case murder, and in another case drugs importation on a massive scale).

So now we have another gangland murder that has gripped the nation and the Gardai are again under pressure to smash the gang and bring those responsible to justice. How do they do that?

By taking who they believe to be the weakest link in the gang who is responsible for this horrific murder. They had the opportunity to lock him up for a really simple offence of breaching his bail conditions and took that route. Maybe the Gardai believe that by isolating him from the rest of the gang, cutting off his drug supply, and placing him in a prison (albeit on remand) where he is no more than a minnow (Compared to being a big fish in Drogheda), the Gardai believe that over time this may break him and he will turn states evidence against his fellow gang members who may have been responsible. Another criminal due for the Witness Protection Program?

Almost 25 years later the Gardai seem (To me at least) to be using the same tactics they used to smash the gang that murdered Veronica Guerin.

begbysback

Welcome back, hope you enjoyed your holiday, not sure if anyone ever reads mod notes to be fair so you are forgiven.

The 2 cases are completely different, in one a crime reporter was killed, crime reporters and guards/politicians work together on a daily basis so that became personal. Plus the guy who informed had some involvement in the murder so was looking at rotting away in jail for life.

This case, although he’s a kid he was a drug dealer, and as such fair game to an extent. Who would the guy in jail give up? Himself?

This case by the sounds of it will be solved by dna, if it is actually the site of the murder/dismemberment they found.

bigjohndoe

Secretinfo wrote: »

As I am just back from a ban for using initials on my very first post, I will try to be as ambiguous as I can going forward. It was my first time posting but had been following the thread for just over a year.
Unfortunately I did not read the MOD notes on Page 1 of this thread (My Bad) before posting for the first time last week, however I noticed subsequently while reading the thread throughout last week that many many other posters have and continue to use initials and nicknames without any repercussions. Maybe there are different rules for long term posters? I am not criticising MOD decisions, I just cant see the equality in these decisions.

That being said, here is a theory that I have regarding Drogheda and the arrest and incarceration of a feud member from there:

This feud member recently had their bail revoked - This is the only way I will reference this individual.

Now for the theory:

In 1996 Veronica Guerin was murdered. In the aftermath of this slaying there was enormous pressure on Gardai to bring down the gang responsible. The way they went about it was by analysing the gang and picking who they believed was the weakest link in the gang. The person they decided was the weakest link in the gang was charged with a minor offence taken into custody and cut off from the rest of the gang and also from the drugs lifestyle this person was used to living (Huge cocaine habit).

While he was in prison, he was isolated, had no access to cocaine and slowly began to talk to Gardai about why she was shot dead and by whom. This person was then given the full protection of the State for agreeing to testify against his fellow gang members. It took a few months but the Gardai did get all the info they required from this person leading to the gang leader and his 2nd in command being charged with very serious offences (In one case murder, and in another case drugs importation on a massive scale).

So now we have another gangland murder that has gripped the nation and the Gardai are again under pressure to smash the gang and bring those responsible to justice. How do they do that?

By taking who they believe to be the weakest link in the gang who is responsible for this horrific murder. They had the opportunity to lock him up for a really simple offence of breaching his bail conditions and took that route. Maybe the Gardai believe that by isolating him from the rest of the gang, cutting off his drug supply, and placing him in a prison (albeit on remand) where he is no more than a minnow (Compared to being a big fish in Drogheda), the Gardai believe that over time this may break him and he will turn states evidence against his fellow gang members who may have been responsible. Another criminal due for the Witness Protection Program?

Almost 25 years later the Gardai seem (To me at least) to be using the same tactics they used to smash the gang that murdered Veronica Guerin.

Hopefully not it seems this individual would have been instrumental in the horrible ending of the 17 year old . I hope he gets the book thrown at him considering he has been lucky before the courts before.