Gangland Shootings Cont'd [Mod Note in Post #1 updated 27/01/20

ohnonotgmail

NaDeise92 wrote: »

The car used to transport the killers who shot Eoin Boylan was only bought the week before. How hard is it to track down who actually bought it? And no reports of it been found burnt out either or did I get that wrong?

Do you think the people who bought it gave their real name and address?

NaDeise92

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Do you think the people who bought it gave their real name and address?

Hardly. But surely they can trace it back to someone of interest, if it was a little garage - cctv, the numbers used to call it. Something.

Think its actually a fair question and alot more interesting than 20 people on this yesterday pointlessly telling each other if they've sniffed hoover in their life before.

the.red.baron

NaDeise92 wrote: »

Hardly. But surely they can trace it back to someone of interest, if it was a little garage - cctv, the numbers used to call it. Something.

Think its actually a fair question and alot more interesting than 20 people on this yesterday pointlessly telling each other if they've sniffed hoover in their life before.

why buy a car you are going to use in a murder from a garage with a cctv camera system installed


especially one where they are going to keep weeks of tape just in case one of the cars is used in a murder

hankless

I doubt they bought it from a garage. Least of all a garage with working CCTV. Most likely a cash purchase from a private sale on Donedeal.

NaDeise92

No reports of it being found burnt out either which is strange in instances like this

Berserker5

They'd have a proxy buying the car in a private sale

Not one of the doers

Tippsman

NaDeise92 wrote: »

No reports of it being found burnt out either which is strange in instances like this

Not really, a well planned hit like this would put the car in box van to bring it out of Dublin.

Id say it's been scrapped already outside Dublin.

hankless

Wouldn't it just be easier to burn it out? Destroying evidence is surely better than moving it?

Gadgetman496

hankless wrote: »

Wouldn't it just be easier to burn it out? Destroying evidence is surely better than moving it?

Unless you planned to use it one more time?

The gray bird

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Unless you planned to use it one more time?

That would be foolish as you would be getting linked to two crimes.

Gadgetman496

The gray bird wrote: »

That would be foolish as you would be getting linked to two crimes.

You'd be linked to none if you weren't caught.

Eircom_Sucks

The gray bird wrote: »

That would be foolish as you would be getting linked to two crimes.

doesn't matter here

garda don't know their rear from their elbows

and when its burnted out they find nothing

Chalk McHugh

Not entirely true. When a car was burnt out couple of weeks back in Lucan some great detective work actually found a smouldering Wayne Whelan being cremated pre-funeral. These cops knew what to look for.

Tippsman

Burning isn't the best course as was evident by the Barr murder

"Cumberton's DNA was found on a baseball cap and a rubber Freddie Krueger mask used in the murder that were found in a partially burned-out getaway car."

Also the car is still idenifble threw the VIN if completely burnt.

They think 2 people were involved in boylan hit, traspassed on a property (presume behind his house) and shot hit 9 times.

Alliance123

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Not entirely true. When a car was burnt out couple of weeks back in Lucan some great detective work actually found a smouldering Wayne Whelan being cremated pre-funeral. These cops knew what to look for.

Lol cops hadn't a clue until they were told by the neighbours who was in it

JMMCapital

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

Exactly. Point is people from all walks of life take it. The argument earlier was that social welfare people can’t afford it thus don’t take

the people on social welfare are drug dealing as well what do you expect? most of them can cover there addictions that way.

ohnonotgmail

Alliance123 wrote: »

Lol cops hadn't a clue until they were told by the neighbours who was in it

his own mother probably wouldn't have recognised him.

NaDeise92

Some of the intimidation tactics used in the year before boylan's death was nuts. When you think he was only 22.
Going after him with kitchen knives slicing him wearing freddie kruger masks days after Christmas, him catching lads attempting to light pipe bombs outside his family home, shots at the house in the weeks before his death caught on his cctv.

You'd wonder if he was such a high profile dealer in coolock like the papers say making a nice wage why he'd continue to stay in his house where those previous instances occurred and why he wouldn't of moved out of the area to an apartment or something. He'd been receiving death threats for over a year.

Chalk McHugh

Freddie Kreuger masks attacking Boylan.? Didn't someone say Cumberton wore a Freddy mask when disposing of barman Barr? My detective mind is working overdrive. Freddy Kreuger is masking one or more Dublin hitmen. Nightmare for the Old Bill.

yourdeadwright

NaDeise92 wrote: »

Some of the intimidation tactics used in the year before boylan's death was nuts. When you think he was only 22.
Going after him with kitchen knives slicing him wearing freddie kruger masks days after Christmas, him catching lads attempting to light pipe bombs outside his family home, shots at the house in the weeks before his death caught on his cctv.

You'd wonder if he was such a high profile dealer in coolock like the papers say making a nice wage why he'd continue to stay in his house where those previous instances occurred and why he wouldn't of moved out of the area to an apartment or something. He'd been receiving death threats for over a year.

I'd imagine fear of being alone, he was only 22 , the lad probably thought with his family around him he was safer than living in a flat or apartment on his own,

Its a small enough area word travels quick if one person knows where you live people can find out ,




I'd imagine its easier to get to someone who lives in an apartment, Housing estates neighbours tend to watch out more and notice if people or car's are hanging around in apartment blocks you don't even know your neighbour let alone notice car's or lads hanging about,
Going to your car in the car park would be ideal spot for someone to wait for you in the dark ,

NaDeise92

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Freddie Kreuger masks attacking Boylan.? Didn't someone say Cumberton wore a Freddy mask when disposing of barman Barr? My detective mind is working overdrive. Freddy Kreuger is masking one or more Dublin hitmen. Nightmare for the Old Bill.

Yep. Seems freddie is the mask of choice.


"In the first case, Boylan told ­gardai that he had been targeted by a man wearing a Freddie Krueger mask and armed with an iron bar and kitchen knife on December 28, 2018.


During the confrontation, the drug dealer received 20 stitches and nerve damage to his arm."

Chalk McHugh

NaDeise92 wrote: »

Some of the intimidation tactics used in the year before boylan's death was nuts. When you think he was only 22.
Going after him with kitchen knives slicing him wearing freddie kruger masks days after Christmas, him catching lads attempting to light pipe bombs outside his family home, shots at the house in the weeks before his death caught on his cctv.

You'd wonder if he was such a high profile dealer in coolock like the papers say making a nice wage why he'd continue to stay in his house where those previous instances occurred and why he wouldn't of moved out of the area to an apartment or something. He'd been receiving death threats for over a year.

If he'd concentrated on delivering the mail rather than poor quality jayo he may be looking forward to a nice Christmas holiday with family and friends.

yourdeadwright

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

If he'd concentrated on delivering the mail rather than poor quality jayo he may be looking forward to a nice Christmas holiday with family and friends.

Its very sad when its put that way ,
You'd be hearth broken if you had a son who fell in with the wrong crowd, they could very easily end up owing lotsa of money very quickly ,
It can happen to people from really nice family's,


Life over at 22 for a few extra quid without the struggle of working a 9- 5 to get it, Defo not worth it ,

NaDeise92

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Its very sad when its put that way ,
You'd be hearth broken if you had a son who fell in with the wrong crowd, they could very easily end up owing lotsa of money very quickly ,
It can happen to people from really nice family's,


Life over at 22 for a few extra quid without the struggle of working a 9- 5 to get it, Defo not worth it ,

As your name states - your dead right

Gadgetman496

Have they disposed of Boylan's remains yet?

Chalk McHugh

I don't have any sympathy for him. Sorry but he had choices. Like we all do. You deal drugs for the devils shilling well you reap what you sew. And as i know from first hand experience only too well they sew misery onto their own people so although it's sad for his family, i certainly wont be shedding a tear for his young demise. Or any of the rest of them.

IRE60

Harping back to the discussion earlier on Cocane - interesting article on the Indo today https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/patricia-casey-cocaine-use-now-is-higher-than-ever-before-but-were-not-taking-the-threat-seriously-38748373.html

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Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I don't have any sympathy for him. Sorry but he had choices. Like we all do. You deal drugs for the devils shilling well you reap what you sew. And as i know from first hand experience only too well they sew misery onto their own people so although it's sad for his family, i certainly wont be shedding a tear for his young demise. Or any of the rest of them.

You know alcohol is a drug, statistically the most damaging, bet you have no problem consuming it or any problem with the people who sell it to you.

Chalk McHugh

Easton Calm Permit wrote: »

You know alcohol is a drug, statistically the most damaging, bet you have no problem consuming it or any problem with the people who sell it to you.

Bit of a stupid argument this. I've got into some trouble over the years due to scummy drug dealers. If you think it's as simple as ordering a pint in your local you are naeve in the extreme. You think drug dealers are nice, decent people who play by the 'rules' at all times? I've seen first hand how sly and ruthless they can be. Never sold drugs myself. Dont have the conscience to do it. To mix it with **** and then chase people for money. I just couldn't do it. Most drug dealers i know....sorry used to know are not nice people . Money is their god. They dont care who they hurt so why should i give a **** when they end up getting rubbed out? Too many romantic do gooders out there that make excuses for them. I don't ink they have suffered at theiir hands in anyway and are just looking at it from afar, far away from its ****ty and gritty reality.

lcasey90

Back to the topic of the car wasn't the car used to kill the Iranian a car bought recently aswell. Out of all the shootings that iv read about them two were the only ones I recall having a car not burned out though I could be wrong

Syndic

lcasey90 wrote: »

Back to the topic of the car wasn't the car used to kill the Iranian a car bought recently aswell. Out of all the shootings that iv read about them two were the only ones I recall having a car not burned out though I could be wrong

The car used in the Iranian shooting was burned out. Just around the corner.

It's the easiest option to buy a car these days. You used to hear of the cars used in criminal activity being stolen but it's obviously easier to just buy a car in advance using a fake name and address.

lcasey90

Syndic wrote: »

The car used in the Iranian shooting was burned out. Just around the corner.

It's the easiest option to buy a car these days. You used to hear of the cars used in criminal activity being stolen but it's obviously easier to just buy a car in advance using a fake name and address.

Which of the murders had an avenses or something that was bought around that time

RobbingBandit

Copter out in Finglas south lot of cars speeding up tolka valley a few minutes ago no sirens

Syndic

lcasey90 wrote: »

Which of the murders had an avenses or something that was bought around that time

The Iranian. It was bought a couple of weeks beforehand from a dealership and then burned out immediately after.

Tippsman

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Have they disposed of Boylan's remains yet?

Nothing as of yet, I've seen nothing of Wayne's either.

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Bit of a stupid argument this. I've got into some trouble over the years due to scummy drug dealers. If you think it's as simple as ordering a pint in your local you are naeve in the extreme. You think drug dealers are nice, decent people who play by the 'rules' at all times? I've seen first hand how sly and ruthless they can be. Never sold drugs myself. Dont have the conscience to do it. To mix it with **** and then chase people for money. I just couldn't do it. Most drug dealers i know....sorry used to know are not nice people . Money is their god. They dont care who they hurt so why should i give a **** when they end up getting rubbed out? Too many romantic do gooders out there that make excuses for them. I don't think they have suffered at their hands in anyway and are just looking at it from afar, far away from its ****ty and gritty reality.

It's as easy as buying a pint, insta, snapchat, whatsapp delivered to your door and that's without the darknet and your smily postman
You just had c unts for dealers, they're supplying for a demand which is only increaseing.

lcasey90 wrote: »

Back to the topic of the car wasn't the car used to kill the Iranian a car bought recently aswell. Out of all the shootings that iv read about them two were the only ones I recall having a car not burned out though I could be wrong

Irish times
"The getaway vehicle used by the three men who killed Sanambar was set on fire at Castletimon Gardens close to the murder scene. The silver Toyota Avensis 04 D 71806 was bought from a small car dealership in south Dublin 10 days ago"

It's common for bought cars now in the fact that they've become so cheap as insurance is dear on anything 10 years old.

Chalk McHugh

IRE60 wrote: »

Harping back to the discussion earlier on Cocane - interesting article on the Indo today https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/patricia-casey-cocaine-use-now-is-higher-than-ever-before-but-were-not-taking-the-threat-seriously-38748373.html

Tippsman wrote: »

Nothing as of yet, I've seen nothing of Wayne's either.



It's as easy as buying a pint, insta, snapchat, whatsapp delivered to your door and that's without the darknet and your smily postman
You just had c unts for dealers, they're supplying for a demand which is only increaseing.




Irish times
"The getaway vehicle used by the three men who killed Sanambar was set on fire at Castletimon Gardens close to the murder scene. The silver Toyota Avensis 04 D 71806 was bought from a small car dealership in south Dublin 10 days ago"

It's common for bought cars now in the fact that they've become so cheap as insurance is dear on anything 10 years old.

I know how easy it is to get believe me. What i meant was it's not as easy to get the quality of what you're paying for as opposed to buying a pint. At least with the drink you know for sure whats in it. I've been around the block and have drank in the north inner city the last 15 years or more so have mixed with many circles. Some would be well known. I have a few good friends in there but also a few toe rags who would do there own mother for a few bob.

bigpink

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I know how easy it is to get believe me. What i meant was it's not as easy to get the quality of what you're paying for as opposed to buying a pint. At least with the drink you know for sure whats in it. I've been around the block and have drank in the north inner city the last 15 years or more so have mixed with many circles. Some would be well known. I have a few good friends in there but also a few toe rags who would do there own mother for a few bob.

You take coke yourself?

Donald Trump

Easton Calm Permit wrote: »

You know alcohol is a drug

People say alcohol is a drug
It's not a drug. It's a drink

Chalk McHugh

bigpink wrote: »

You take coke yourself?

I was reading through some posts the last few days and on the topic of cocaine not one said they do it and quite a few said they didn't ever try it so excuse me if i plead the5th on this one. Looks like the Gangland thread posters are a virtuous lot of tea totallers.

bigpink

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I was reading through some posts the last few days and on the topic of cocaine not one said they do it and quite a few said they didn't ever try it so excuse me if i plead the5th on this one. Looks like the Gangland thread posters are a virtuous lot of tea totallers.

I dont care if you do or dont i more curious why you hang sround these people and circles

The gray bird

bigpink wrote: »

I dont care if you do or dont i more curious why you hang sround these people and circles

I do it socially once maybe every 2 weeks if im out with the lads watching ball

Syndic

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I was reading through some posts the last few days and on the topic of cocaine not one said they do it and quite a few said they didn't ever try it so excuse me if i plead the5th on this one. Looks like the Gangland thread posters are a virtuous lot of tea totallers.

So that's a big fat yes, then?

Omackeral

The gray bird wrote: »

I do it socially once maybe every 2 weeks if im out with the lads watching ball

Not that it's my business but that seems very regular. Would it bother you to not do it? Does it ever get to that stage where you feel like that?

Chalk McHugh

bigpink wrote: »

I dont care if you do or dont i more curious why you hang sround these people and circles

I ask myself that question quite a lot too. Sometimes life just takes a few detours to where you expected to go. In my case i took more wrong turns than a blind taxi driver. We'll leave it at that.

Chalk McHugh

Omackeral wrote: »

Not that it's my business but that seems very regular. Would it bother you to not do it? Does it ever get to that stage where you feel like that?

Its all relative. He may only do a coin or two. Who knows. If its just out watching the ball doubt its very much. If hes up for work next day theres no going back to gafs and hoovering away until you run out of money, sniff or the will to keep going and blow 2 weeks wages in one 24 hour session. Thats where some real damage is done.

JMMCapital

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I ask myself that question quite a lot too. Sometimes life just takes a few detours to where you expected to go. In my case i took more wrong turns than a blind taxi driver. We'll leave it at that.

I used to be around some proper scumbags too, proper snakey drug addicted *****... just kicked them out of my life and got on with it you should too, they're no good you'll thank me in the long run.

The gray bird

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Its all relative. He may only do a coin or two. Who knows. If its just out watching the ball doubt its very much. If hes up for work next day theres no going back to gafs and hoovering away until you run out of money, sniff or the will to keep going and blow 2 weeks wages in one 24 hour session. Thats where some real damage is done.

I done that when i was younger im 35 now just the odd hoovy id do now as i said.

TwoMonthsOff

I try stay away from the patsy these days, its hard though. 8 pints I'm gee eyed. Need a pick me up.

The days of all night sessions on it are long over for me thankfully. Messy times.

lunamoon

Have they confirmed that the latest shooting was gangland related?

bigpink

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I ask myself that question quite a lot too. Sometimes life just takes a few detours to where you expected to go. In my case i took more wrong turns than a blind taxi driver. We'll leave it at that.

Did you ever sense early on this is bad?Did you still hang sround with dodgy peoole?
thanks it interesting to hear