Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan The hunt for Webb Ellis

sydthebeat · 13-10-2019 3:47pm

This was a tweet from him though

Exclusive in @ST_Sport yes. World Rugby DID make strenuous efforts to re-fix threatened games. And two major Unions battled to stop them. On or off today the bitterness will continue

Former Former · 13-10-2019 3:57pm

Snickers Man wrote: »

What "interventions" is he talking about? The only public mention has been his own "story", which the IRFU has denied.

Brian Moore posted on Twitter the other day that NZ were against rescheduling games.

OldRio · 13-10-2019 4:05pm

It's Jones lads, he has previous. Horrid individual.

Gwynplaine · 13-10-2019 4:11pm

Why has Eddie Jones a permanent smile on his face?

Dubinusa · 13-10-2019 4:11pm

Well Japan are a top 8 team! There's no doubt. They beat us and Scotland and deservedly so.
I think that's the best story from this tourney.
I think that Uraguay are also improving and Fiji are close to being a tier 1 nation.
It's disappointing to see how poor Canada have been. They really have fallen these past few years. At one time, I thought they would be a top 15 side, but they are awful.
Georgia's have also disappointed. I think they were very poor. All in all, I don't think the tier 2 nations have closed the gap!

Heres Johnny · 13-10-2019 4:30pm

I think overall the tier 2 sides have closed the gap in fitness and conditioning but not in rugby skills. They are better able to cope in defence but not trouble top sides with their attack. I'm talking about Uruguay, Georgia here. The islanders, especially Fiji have all the talent in the world but lack a game plan to really trouble the best consistently. Canada, Namibia and Russia are just too far behind to even consider an upset.
There were no 140 point drubbing in this world cup thank god

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 4:30pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

Unlike you, and a select few like you...
.... The majority of posters on this site actually want Ireland to win.

I would like Ireland to win but i have enough cop on to know that the All Black's will beat us. I don't believe in moral victories even if Ireland lose by 3 points.

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 4:32pm

What happens if there is a typhoon next Saturday against nz? Will we automatically qualify for the semis. Its our best chance i believe.

sydthebeat · 13-10-2019 4:35pm

teednab-el wrote: »

What happens if there is a typhoon next Saturday against nz? Will we automatically qualify for the semis. Its our best chance i believe.

You are a special kind of troll really.....

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 4:35pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

As always, I go wherever I want.

I look foward to your mortgage bet screenshot next week, throw it up before the game if possible, there's a good lad.

You love the commotion.

One More Toy · 13-10-2019 4:42pm

What day are we playing new Zealand? Don't see it mentioned anywhere!

prawnsambo · 13-10-2019 4:44pm

One More Toy wrote: »

What day are we playing new Zealand? Don't see it mentioned anywhere!

Saturday.

One More Toy · 13-10-2019 4:50pm

prawnsambo wrote: »

Saturday.

Cén tam?

ShamoBuc · 13-10-2019 4:51pm

One More Toy wrote: »

Cén tam?

11.15 Irish game, Eng v Aus at 8.15 Saturday morning.

One More Toy · 13-10-2019 4:53pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

11.15 Eng v Aus at 8.15 Saturday morning.

8.15 for the Ireland match?

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 4:53pm

England v NZ semi final.

ScrubsfanChris · 13-10-2019 4:56pm

teednab-el wrote: »

I would like Ireland to win but i have enough cop on to know that the All Black's will beat us. I don't believe in moral victories even if Ireland lose by 3 points.

The same was said before a certain game in Chicago

Show us that betting slip with your house on it then? :pac:

13-10-2019 4:57pm

One More Toy wrote: »

8.15 for the Ireland match?

No, it's 11:15am.

That was an extremely confusing way of saying what time the matches are up above ^^

One More Toy · 13-10-2019 4:57pm

Basil3 wrote: »

No, it's 11:15am.

That was an extremely confusing way of saying what time the matches are up above ^^

Thanks!

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 5:05pm

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

The same was said before a certain game in Chicago

Show us that betting slip with your house on it then? :pac:

That was a friendly against a 2nd string NZ team.

ednwireland · 13-10-2019 5:07pm

teednab-el wrote: »

England v NZ semi final.

someones getting boring

yeh we get it you think they cant win

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 5:11pm

ednwireland wrote: »

someones getting boring

yeh we get it you think they cant win

They won't. Select your words carefully or they might come back to bite you next Saturday after the game.

Murof · 13-10-2019 5:12pm

teednab-el wrote: »

They won't. Select your words carefully or they might come back to bite you next Saturday after the game.

You're embarrassing yourself. Just go away.

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 5:13pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

You are a special kind of troll really.....

Not a troll but having watched both teams playing in the RWC. We are in for some hammering. NZ can't wait for this game. They will be out to proove a point that November was a flash in the pan.

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 5:14pm

Murof wrote: »

You're embarrassing yourself. Just go away.

I am just calling the game as it is. Its a dead rubber for Ireland.

awec · 13-10-2019 5:14pm

teednab-el wrote: »

They won't. Select your words carefully or they might come back to bite you next Saturday after the game.

Improve the standard of your posts if you want to keep posting here.

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 5:18pm

awec wrote: »

Improve the standard of your posts if you want to keep posting here.

I suppose people dont want to hear reality and thats fine too. I hope Ireland win Saturday and hope im wrong.

ScrubsfanChris · 13-10-2019 5:30pm

teednab-el wrote: »

I suppose people dont want to hear reality and thats fine too. I hope Ireland win Saturday and hope im wrong.

How is something that hasn't happened yet reality?

joseywhales · 13-10-2019 5:36pm

You should try to explain what things in ireland's control they can change in order to affect a better result, otherwise you are just making negative statements not rooted in fact which is just going to make you and everyone else feel a little bit more miserable.

Aidric · 13-10-2019 5:45pm

OldRio wrote: »

It's Jones lads, he has previous. Horrid individual.

Eddie or Stephen?

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 5:48pm

joseywhales wrote: »

You should try to explain what things in ireland's control they can change in order to affect a better result, otherwise you are just making negative statements not rooted in fact which is just going to make you and everyone else feel a little bit more miserable.

We need to move the ball faster. Our passing is too slow and predictable.

Podge_irl · 13-10-2019 5:51pm

Former Former wrote: »

Jones acknowledges that Ireland's motivation isn't clear.

Fair enough people don't like his opinion pieces but it would be very odd if he'd just made up a factual report.

I wouldn’t find it odd at all. His hatred of Ireland seems borderline pathological at times

Podge_irl · 13-10-2019 5:52pm

reg114 wrote: »

What you didn't see from Japan was them kicking the ball away, a tactic inexplicably beloved of ireland. The difference between Ireland and Japan stylistically and from a skills standpoint is night and day. Our boys could learn alot from how the Japanese play the game.

Have you actually watched Ireland play in the last 3 years

Bridge93 · 13-10-2019 5:57pm

Away from the few embarrassing themselves on this thread, after the cancellation of their game this morning the Canadian team went out into Kamaishi and helped to start the cleanup in the aftermath of Typhoon Hagibis. Nice to see

joseywhales · 13-10-2019 6:00pm

teednab-el wrote: »

joseywhales wrote: »

You should try to explain what things in ireland's control they can change in order to affect a better result, otherwise you are just making negative statements not rooted in fact which is just going to make you and everyone else feel a little bit more miserable.

We need to move the ball faster. Our passing is too slow and predictable.

So to move the ball faster, we need quicker rucks which requires more yards from ball carriers and specifically more yards after contact. Do you believe we have enough power, to create the ruck speed required for better lines of running, more options......and better passing?

teednab-el · 13-10-2019 6:13pm

joseywhales wrote: »

So to move the ball faster, we need quicker rucks which requires more yards from ball carriers and specifically more yards after contact. Do you believe we have enough power, to create the ruck speed required for better lines of running, more options......and better passing?

Why cant we?

Jacovs · 13-10-2019 6:19pm

If you told any SA fan before the world cup they would be facing Japan in the QF and then either Wales/France in the SF, I think most would gladly take that.

Certainly better than Ireland in QF and then either England/Aus in SF.

joseywhales · 13-10-2019 6:23pm

teednab-el wrote: »

joseywhales wrote: »

So to move the ball faster, we need quicker rucks which requires more yards from ball carriers and specifically more yards after contact. Do you believe we have enough power, to create the ruck speed required for better lines of running, more options......and better passing?

Why cant we?

Not sure if we have the power players to blow teams over the gainline maybe I'm wrong

prawnsambo · 13-10-2019 6:28pm

teednab-el wrote: »

Why cant we?

There's an opposition too. And their job is to stop the tackled player presenting the ball quickly and then try to turn it over and slow it down so that they get their defence aligned again before the next phase. Getting multi-phase gain line success for the four or five (and sometimes even more) phases required to stress the defence enough for their just to be a mismatch, never mind a gap is difficult. The old adage of 'you have to earn the right to go wide' is still as valid today as it was when it was first coined.

Wailin · 13-10-2019 6:28pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

No matter which team we played in Qtr we would of had to turn up, it would of had to be the performance of the year.....

Naw, the French would have been a walk over, ****e team.

prawnsambo · 13-10-2019 6:33pm

Wailin wrote: »

Naw, the French would have been a walk over, ****e team.

The French have always threatened to be a walk over team at world cups, but never seem to deliver.

Shefwedfan · 13-10-2019 6:35pm

Wailin wrote: »

Naw, the French would have been a walk over, ****e team.

We will see after they play Wales next week

Wailin · 13-10-2019 7:01pm

So you rate them? After their brilliant pool stage performances?

Shefwedfan · 13-10-2019 7:46pm

Wailin wrote: »

So you rate them? After their brilliant pool stage performances?

France made bits of Wales in first half of match in 6 nations.....then decided to help Wales win the second half.....

France are the one team that have the players to rip anyone apart if they decide to play.....they could be hammered or they might hammer Wales.....

is_that_so · 13-10-2019 7:48pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

France made bits of Wales in first half of match in 6 nations.....then decided to help Wales win the second half.....

France are the one team that have the players to rip anyone apart if they decide to play.....they could be hammered or they might hammer Wales.....

France are really building towards 2023 and will treat the rest of their involvement here with a Gallic shrug!

GreeBo · 13-10-2019 8:23pm

joseywhales wrote: »

Not sure if we have the power players to blow teams over the gainline maybe I'm wrong

They don't have to be power players, they just need to take the ball at pace.

One out runners taking the ball standing still doesn't work against top teams.
Sure you will get the odd try from players like tadgh beirne yesterday, but it's just tackling practice for a team with a solid defence.

Skyfloater · 13-10-2019 8:30pm

GreeBo wrote: »

They don't have to be power players, they just need to take the ball at pace.

One out runners taking the ball standing still doesn't work against top teams.
Sure you will get the odd try from players like tadgh beirne yesterday, but it's just tackling practice for a team with a solid defence.

This is just a head wrecker when you watch Ireland play, why can't they have one or two who stand deeper and run onto the ball.

GreeBo · 13-10-2019 8:35pm

Skyfloater wrote: »

This is just a head wrecker when you watch Ireland play, why can't they have one or two who stand deeper and run onto the ball.

I'd guess you'd need to be confident in your scrum half sending the ball out with the correct timing, so either the runners can't time it, Murray can't deliver it or Joe doesn't ask or want them doing it for some reason.

prawnsambo · 13-10-2019 8:44pm

Skyfloater wrote: »

This is just a head wrecker when you watch Ireland play, why can't they have one or two who stand deeper and run onto the ball.

The down side to this is a rush defence, resulting in you losing gain line with each recycle. And that slows down the attack as everyone has to realign behind the gain line for the next phase.

Wailin · 13-10-2019 8:44pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

France made bits of Wales in first half of match in 6 nations.....then decided to help Wales win the second half.....

France are the one team that have the players to rip anyone apart if they decide to play.....they could be hammered or they might hammer Wales.....

I know what the french are capable of, I'm a rugby fan after all. But I know the welsh are a well drilled well coached side with a system that works. France don't. France will crumble again, It will be an easy waltz to the semis for wales.

Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan The hunt for Webb Ellis

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